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ClayDavis
17 Oct 13 13:39
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I'm not saying Arizona will win but I think this will be a close one. Anyone betting the Dirty Birds to cover a 6pt spread on the road wants their head examined. They may do it but you would be in the grubber if u were betting them on the road in the past to cover the spread.
Also this is a place where they have struggled. They have lost 8 out of their last 10 visits here. They lost here last season.
PLus the Cardinals are getting all their players back week by week and are getting better. They have won their two home games, against the Lions and the Panthers, played really well for three quarters at San Francisco at the weekend.
I like their defense a lot. Yes Palmer is a pick machine on offense but he is also capable on his day and Larry Fitzgerald is a class act.
The Dirty Birds wee not that impressive at the weekend and they don't have their injuries to seek. It's certainly weakened them at Linebacker and on the defense line. They will try and stop the run and force Palmer to beat them through the air.
I can see this being a brutal game. But I'm not having the Dirty Birds as 6pt favs and there are plenty reasons for thinking the Cardinals will cover this, and some.
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By:
db1974
When: 17 Oct 13 16:20
The Falcons are known as the Dirty Birds, not the Seahawks
By:
db1974
When: 17 Oct 13 16:50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_nicknames
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 13 17:40
I am taking on the 6.5 spread. Seahawks are a class act.  Their road woes must end soon.  I am well impressed with Russell Wilson.
By:
orioles
When: 17 Oct 13 17:55
Some smashmouth football, nice Happy

Be careful. Palmer likes to give the ball away and the Seahawks like taking it away!

Seattle has a decent pass rush and the prospect of Palmer, behind that O line, throwing against that secondary, trying to find a gimpy Fitz, is troubling. I really like Andre Ellington, but he'll find it tough tonight, forcing Palmer downfield.

The Cards do have a decent D and the short week plays well for the home team, but Lynch and Wilson can keep the chains moving. If Calais Campbell is out, that will hurt the Cardinals.

Palmer will throw at least two picks giving the Seahawks a short field, and Wilson can get it done - they look a TD better. Maybe a little Unders?

Bonne chance Happy
By:
ClayDavis
When: 17 Oct 13 18:27
db1974 - i'm well aware of that - 49ers fans call them the dirty birds as well
By:
Swardean
When: 17 Oct 13 18:50
"I'm not saying Arizona will win but I think this will be a close one. Anyone betting the Dirty Birds to cover a 6pt spread on the road wants their head examined. They may do it but you would be in the grubber if u were betting them on the road in the past to cover the spread."

Incorrect. Seattle are 11-7 ATS on the road since 2011.

"Also this is a place where they have struggled. They have lost 8 out of their last 10 visits here. They lost here last season"

They lost narrowly due to a crucial dropped pass.  This was also week 1 and debut for Wilson.  Theyplayed again 3 months later and Seattle won 58-0

"PLus the Cardinals are getting all their players back week by week and are getting better."

Seattle have Miller and Clements back this week.

"They will try and stop the run and force Palmer to beat them through the air."

Cards have no running game and the 'pick machine' Palmer will find it tough against the best secondary in the league.

"I can see this being a brutal game. But I'm not having the Dirty Birds as 6pt favs and there are plenty reasons for thinking the Cardinals will cover this, and some."

I agree it will be a brutal game and the fact is it a divisional game means it shouldn't be a blowout, but I think Seattle cover tonight.  GL
By:
Still standing
When: 17 Oct 13 22:22

Oct 17, 2013 -- 6:27PM, ClayDavis wrote:


db1974 - i'm well aware of that - 49ers fans call them the dirty birds as well


CLay.  WTF.  The Seahawks and the 49ers are somehow known as the dirty birds ?  Never heard it.  Maybe once somewhere someone referred to the Seahawks as the dirty birds, but it is generally accepted, hell, universally accepted the TDB is the moniker of the Falcons, and only the Falcons.

By:
HARRY22
When: 17 Oct 13 22:29
I recall a match between arizona and seattle either last season or the year before, in arizona,they kept shutting out the seahawks inside the 5 time and time again,cards made a habit of doing that.
By:
db1974
When: 17 Oct 13 22:40
That was Week 1 last year Harry. Seahawks had 7 consec plays in the Redzone (incl 1st-&-Goal from the 6) and couldn't finish it. They're a bit better now though.

The Seahawks have shown that their road woes are not going to bother this side and I think they win well tonight, double figures anyway. Palmer isn't good enough to keep the Cards in it IMO.
By:
Still standing
When: 17 Oct 13 22:51
If ever there was a case to not now, or ever, bet the point spread, this game is the poster boy.  Too many ifs and I don't knows.  How will the Cardinal O line hold up ?  When Seattle blitzes, can Palmer hit the outside 1 on 1.  His money in the bank ( Fitzgerald) will be covered like a blanket by an all star, just waiting for the INT, probably baiting with some loose coverage.  What will Seattle do when their run game is stiffed ?  How is Wilson when he has to throw, and the Cards will know it.

All games come down to a couple of key matchups.  Larry will effectively be taken out of the game.  Seattle will apply heat to Palmer, which he has shown for years he continually makes bad split second decisions.  If Arizona shuts down the run, Seattle will find a way to let Wilson run loose and find  gaps behind the line.

It looks like it might be a 6+ win for Seattle to me, but I only bet the spread if I like the dog to win outright.  I took the 1.46 ML on Seattle, it's 1.47 now.  The guy who hates the dirty birds will give the 6 points, for you point spread betters, take the hint.  Swardean did an excellent job of countering all his points why Arizona is a bet.

Anyone who bets the spread and wins, hats off to you.  I can't do it.
By:
Still standing
When: 17 Oct 13 22:54
OOPS.  The guy who hates the dirty birds will take the 6 points tonight.
By:
Wallflower
When: 17 Oct 13 22:58
Agree completely Still Standing......just don't get betting the spread, unless I genuinely fancy the underdog to win outright - then its a bonus.
By:
Swardean
When: 17 Oct 13 23:02
Line now down to +4.5.  I am so tempted...
By:
HARRY22
When: 17 Oct 13 23:20
even if seattle lose swardean,we know it won't be by more than 7,never is
By:
birdieforthewin
When: 17 Oct 13 23:46
The seattle secondary will have a field day..
By:
ClayDavis
When: 17 Oct 13 23:53
Whether I'm right or wrong, the market clearly agrees with me. All u hawk backers should be cleaning up. I'm very happy to keep Arizona on side and more than happy with Arizona +6. This is going to be a very close game
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 01:20
I THINK ODDS WILL INCREASE ON SEATTLE WHY SETTLE FOR THE 1.46. ARIZONA SCORE EARLY AND SEATTLE GO 3 AND OUT U CAN GET EVENS. JUST WAIT IN PLAY.
By:
liam1982
When: 18 Oct 13 01:23
Arizona + 12.5 looks tempting to me
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 01:23
THURS NIGHT FOOTBALL IS PI$$ POOR THE SOOR THEY CHANGE IT THE BETTER
By:
Still standing
When: 18 Oct 13 01:34
No way Seattle goes to 3 if Zona scores a TD first.
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 01:39
EVENS NOT 3
By:
Still standing
When: 18 Oct 13 01:40
Right Bean.  Sorry about that.  It's moot now, but I think they would have been 1.80 ish
By:
dlarssonf
When: 18 Oct 13 01:42
Russell WilsonLove
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 01:44
THIS COULD BE A BLOW OUT STILL
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 01:44
WHO YOU ON??
By:
ClayDavis
When: 18 Oct 13 01:45
Wilson was outstanding there
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 01:47
THAT DRIVE WAS WAY TOO EASY NO BET SO FAR BUT IF SEATTLE CHOKE ZONA OFFENSIVELY ITS BED TIME
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 02:00
LOOKS LIKE CARDS AINT COVERING JACK TONIGHT
By:
Beaniash
When: 18 Oct 13 02:05
BED TIME NO VALUE BET TO SEE HERE GOOD LUCK CARDS +6 BACKERS ITS GONNA BE A LOOOOONG NIGHT
By:
dlarssonf
When: 18 Oct 13 02:09
great throw again
By:
punkha1
When: 18 Oct 13 02:11
Could be another 58-0 this complete men against boys.
By:
Still standing
When: 18 Oct 13 02:12
It looks like men vs boys, but greed kills, and this is the NFL.  I put my tail between my legs and got out @ 1.10.  Then on the next play, Hawks score a TD, I'm cursing myself, and the price goes to 1.12  Go figure.
By:
Still standing
When: 18 Oct 13 02:13
Hey punk, we come up with the men against boys saying at the same time.
By:
Mr Snap
When: 18 Oct 13 02:17
This Cards D would struggle to contain the Jags tonight
Bell tried harder to stamp on the reciever than he id to actually tackle him!!
By:
Mr Snap
When: 18 Oct 13 02:19
For those looking for a competitive match the Hurricanes are in a good game with North Carolina right now
By:
punkha1
When: 18 Oct 13 02:24
Yeah still standing gotta admit I thought the Cards plus the points was the play tonight was the play but its been a total mismatch so far.
I know its the NFL but cant see them getting back into it Seattle maybe value in-running could be a rout.
By:
Still standing
When: 18 Oct 13 02:30
I'm not getting back in, but it would be a golden opportunity to take some Seattle if Zona scores here.
By:
aaronh
When: 18 Oct 13 02:32
free Ellington
By:
Still standing
When: 18 Oct 13 02:34
Value play now is Seattle @ 1.07.  Arizona might not get the ball again this half, Seattle gets it first next half.  The score could easily be 28 - 3
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