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Loads of stuff catching my eye for next weekend for some reason
Browns +3.0 vs Lions
Why? They've both beaten the Bengals and the Vikings in their 3 wins each so far so I don't get why the Lions are faves on the road this week. Browns are playing well too while Lions were shocking against the Packers yesterday, albeit without Megatron. The 2 teams are evenly matched IMO so it should be the Browns as 3-pt faves here and not the other way around
Jets +3.0 vs Steelers
Obviously the Jets are brutal on offence but their defence is actually doing quite well (cue hiding from Falcons tonight now). Steelers however have been a horror show so far. This line is based on reputation and people believing that the Steelers will click a some stage and I suppose the week after a Bye is as good a time as any. Points at home again look generous here.
Saints +3.0 @ Patriots
Patriots are a dangerous team to back against in the week after a loss but TBH it's hard to see where the improvement is going to come from to beat a Saints team who are playing tough on both sides of the ball. Wilfork is a massive loss to the Pats D and Brady still has no-one to throw to. I'm tempted to take the Saints ML here but probably just play safe and take the points
Couple of others I like too (Panthers +2.5 @ Vikings, Jaguars +28 @ Broncos, Redskins +5.5 @ Cowboys) but I really like the look of the 3main ones above
Browns +3.0 vs Lions
Why? They've both beaten the Bengals and the Vikings in their 3 wins each so far so I don't get why the Lions are faves on the road this week. Browns are playing well too while Lions were shocking against the Packers yesterday, albeit without Megatron. The 2 teams are evenly matched IMO so it should be the Browns as 3-pt faves here and not the other way around
Jets +3.0 vs Steelers
Obviously the Jets are brutal on offence but their defence is actually doing quite well (cue hiding from Falcons tonight now). Steelers however have been a horror show so far. This line is based on reputation and people believing that the Steelers will click a some stage and I suppose the week after a Bye is as good a time as any. Points at home again look generous here.
Saints +3.0 @ Patriots
Patriots are a dangerous team to back against in the week after a loss but TBH it's hard to see where the improvement is going to come from to beat a Saints team who are playing tough on both sides of the ball. Wilfork is a massive loss to the Pats D and Brady still has no-one to throw to. I'm tempted to take the Saints ML here but probably just play safe and take the points
Couple of others I like too (Panthers +2.5 @ Vikings, Jaguars +28 @ Broncos, Redskins +5.5 @ Cowboys) but I really like the look of the 3main ones above
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I agree with you about the Browns; back-to-back road games for the Lions and the extra rest days for Cleveland make it a definite play with the points.
Personally I'd avoid the Saints (though not necessarily back the Pats) given that New Orleans are also on back-to-back road games and are going into their bye week. I'm always wary of backing teams going into the bye, as often they're already on the beach. |
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I was hoping to get the Vikings at a bigger price but I reckon they will murder the Panthers next week
I like all you selections db and they all standout to me. |
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going to the bye week will make no difference at all,going 6-0 is the big motivation.
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I think db1974 what you have actually highlighted are 3 matches to avoid - for the 6 teams involved you could a case for or against all of them
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You all realise Benjamin Button will be QB for the Browns don't u? Just checking!
And will The Gronk will back for the Pats? |
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That Saintss line is really tempting. Gronk or not, Gronkowski will never be the same again IMO, too many injuries.
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i think the bigger issue for the pats is that Brady is getting sacked a lot.
this has never really happened before. |
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Jets won't be dogs now after last nights performance
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100% agree re The Saints
No where in hell should the Pats be favs against them , it's only the D which is keeping them in games and if Brees keeps throwing TD's then the Pats simply wont be able to compete score for score like they have done in the past. |
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i think the bigger issue for the pats is that Brady is getting sacked a lot.
this has never really happened before. >>>Old ex-elite team on the decline. Pittsburgh, Pats, Atlanta and Giants, their windows have all closed. |
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saints will roll in here and win with ease.
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I think with the Pats it's totally different to the other teams you've mentioned.
For e.g Pats are looking strongly into the future in investing in a receiving corp of promising rookies etc They lost the two best tight ends in NFL history in one go which was devastating and not a gradual decline which you are proposing is happening. Brady getting sacked has as much to do with the rookie receivers and no TE's to throw to as much as it has to do with a decline of an offensive unit protecting Brady. The extra second or two it takes to find the receivers is the difference between getting sacked or holding penalties and finding a 25 yd first down every time. Now with Wilfork going down for the season the Defense is stretched. The BIG difference between the Brady led Pats and any other team in the same position is that the Pats will STILL finish with a winning record which for 99.999% of other teams is basically unheard of. Have to laugh when critics point out that the Pats have a rubbish season because they didn't win the Superbowl , yet they can win the AFC Championship and it's called a bad season. |
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I don't think it is, every team is looking to its future with players, by the way, the Pats are looking at this preetty average crop of WR's because of injurues and letting Welker go, a crazy decision.
The Pats have been declining for years. This is nothing new. The Pats will finish with a winning record, but in that division it's not saying much. |
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Two things Dirk
You are 1,000000000% correct in that letting wes welker go was a bad move. BUT You say we have an easy division? Jets, Miami and even Buffalo are really playing it hard this season , compare that to most of the other groups whereby half the teams have already given up. Pat's will never get the credit they deserve , I know that but with the tough division that this season is looking like , if we win it , it will be the best season we will have performed for a long time with the squad we have. Yeah peyton is playing out of his skin but I would love to swap the players he gets to throw to and the ones 4-1 Brady has to throw to. Seriously, NOBODY but nobody would have eked out 4 wins from the receivers and TE's we have got at the moment apart from Brady, i.e NO Tight End and ONE undrafted rookie who has caught a couple. Even our Welker replacement can't stay on the field. This could well be Brady's best ever season if we end up with a winning record of ANY description. |
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You are right about Brady in the main but to say NOBODY would have eked out four wins is wrong
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Well Priest, that's a nice party political for your own team, but I see it differently. The div they have played in for the vast majority of Brady's career has been a joke. If you look at the Pats since spy-gate, what have they done in the post-season?
I think spy-gate is why people don't think the Pats deserve as much credit as you do. I think when the Pats were a dominant team and were lighting to score boards up they were media darlings for years, NFLNE and the other networks were all over BB and Tom, to say they didn't get the credit they deserved at their best is crazy, in this country Neil Reynolds can't get his tongue far enough up Tom's A**e! I'm not sure where the anti Peyton rant came from to be honest. Your argument that 'only Brady could do this' isn't correct. I still say the Pats are declining and have been doing do for some time. |
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Adrian Petersen - there are no words, just no words for these acts. My thoughts go out to the great one. Must be going through hell
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 it's an awful world we live in |
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Well Dirk if you can't bull up your own team sure as hell no one else will lol
It wasn't an anti Peyton rant at all ?? I was just making the point that Denver this season appear to be scoring 40 to 50 every game and Peyton is throwing so many TD's there is no point having a running game at the moment , but would he do as well with literally NO ONE to throw to? That was my point not any anti Peyton rant at all , I like Manning and think he's a very clever QB but for Brady to get four wins so far and against the teams we have done as well is nothing short of miraculous. Where I don't believe credit is given is the simple fact that to 31 teams having a winning season and getting to the play off's is considered to be a success and if they can win the Div Championship it's a brilliant season , for the vast majority of other fans , the Pats have to actually WIN the Superbowl to have been considered a 'Good season ' and merely winning the AFC Championship and been considered the best team in your conference is not good enough , and it's that point which is why I say not given the proper credit. |
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RIP young Peterson, and my thoughts go out to Adrian and family. Tragic.
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Well you did drag Peyton in randomly. And you can't pretend as a Pats fan you're pro-Manning.
"The Pats have to actually WIN the Superbowl to have been considered a 'Good season ' and merely winning the AFC Championship and been considered the best team in your conference is not good enough , and it's that point which is why I say not given the proper credit. " >>>I don't think that's true at all. They get credit for what they've done, but the trouble is most of what they've done is now firmly in the rear view mirror. They've had a very good run since 2001. but it is coming to an end - the SB wins were 2001, 2003 and 2004, all pre-spy-gate. Brady is now 36, and they haven't replaced the talent from their best teams. What Tom Brady is going thru now with no targets is what many teams QB's go thru every year, have been through at some time, and will do so in the future. The Pats have had their balls washed by the media non stop since Tom Brady got here, the fawning over BB and TB has been at a level I have never seen before. That's over now, I think you have to get used to it, because the love-in with the Pats is over. The NFL is cyclical (unless you're the Browns lol!)- like several other teams including my own, it is time for some down time. Yes the Pats are 4-1, but what have they beat? Bills? squeaked past Jets? In Atlanta was a good show no doubt, although they've now been exposed as a no hoper this year. Big test last week in Cincy, and they put 6 points up. But if you eat NO this week and i'll be very impressed. However, I don't think your claim that Pats are unfairly treated in the media will win many supporters. |
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Not so much by the media more by NFL fans in general.
Yes I should dislike P.Manning but can appreciate a good player when I see one and he is a great QB. I have already said, I do think we will get our rear well and truly kicked this sunday , simply because unlike previous squads , we simply can not match teams touchdown for touchdown like we used to. We have to win the turnover battle to stand any chance and keep Breese off the field for as long as possible. How the bookies have us as Fav's I have no idea? |
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It's no use expecting fans of other teams to be generous to your team or players i'm afraid.
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Must be me then because I like to think I can appreciate other teams and players.
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I agree with dirk that the pats have be
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I agree with dirk to an extent that the pats have been declining for some time but that was inevitable with the standards they set. They had young corners in who were getting mauled every week but still they won games. Defensively they are playing very well but the offence has slowed down significantly which is understandable when you look who they have available and who they have lost. They are only 1 defeat from a possible 3 way tie. As long as craft and bill are in new england they will build this team back up again, the coach still gets the best out of the players he has. He is the difference maker imo not brady.
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anyone know why the Bengals are so low?
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Little treble on
Packers - I agree with what H posted previously and think they are a current 'sleeper' and will go on a good run Tampa Bay Buccs - The Defence has looked good in a few games, just need to cut out ill discipline to help themselves Steelers - I don't think they have been as bad as people make out. The offence has looked better, Belle Brown and Sanders all looked tidy at Wembley. I don't think the market is based on reputation, they just have to put in a performance at some point and click but the Defence have to step up. All on M/L - think it pays around 6/1. Got work tomorrow but might treat myself to watching the first half of the Cowyboys later to see if the ROMO will be well on his way to throwing over 500 yards again. Good luck all. (Go on the Romo  ) |
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Also, for all the debate above, in what order would you have Rogers, Brady and Peyton Manning (which would be the order of my top 3 QB)
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Ravens odds should be other way round imo.
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Opening position on Packers, took some back alright......but Ravens are all over Rodgers.....not at all comfortable here......little shimmy needed here to subtly yet profitably move over to Ravens
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Rodgers havin a MARE
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I think he's playing ok considering he is under so much pressure
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BRAINLESS from Kuhn. How thick are some of these players?
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Kuhn's stupid play costing Packers here
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the more i look at it the more i think the seahawks are a gift at -11.5 v Tenessee. all in on that line
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dont **** this up flacco
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damn
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