Who can stop the Pats and Brady?

They're relying on that massive positive turnover ratio though, CD.

I think a more disciplined team, that can keep Brady off the field for extended periods, will test them. Their offense is fantastic, but they're still weak on the defensive side of the ball.

It'll be fascinating to see how they go in the post-season.

Well you said on Sunday that the Broncos were the best side in the NFC, so surely them

But that's the point though the defence are continually coming up with the big plays and also are developing a decent run game. They will be very tough to stop

No one is going to stop them this year

unders101 - the conversation was the best team in the AFC, not the NFC. And I believe the Championship game will be between Denver and New England at Foxboro

New York Giants as usual will stop the Arrogant Patriots in the superbowl again

18-1 baby LOL

Manning V Manning Superbowl

harbaugh v harbaugh bowl

Yeah you are right Clay, I just vaguely remembered you saying something about the Bronco's, many apologies

The D is getting better with Talib brought on board , but as with all things Patriots it never gets easier for them with Gronk a massive blow , what score would they have beaten the Giants last SB if Gronk was fully fit? Now they have to plan ahead again , Hernandez can't block like Gronk can so that's another side they lose as well as the receptions , I would fancy them to beat both the Texans in any AFC battle and the 49's or the Falcons in the SB as long as the freakin Giants don't get there , bogey team and all.

How long the Gronk out for? Not long term surely?

Out 3-6 weeks.

perfect. He will be wearing to go in the play offs

Maybe or perhaps simaler to last year he wont be 100% and be used as a decoy.

don't really think you can play NFL and play half ar sed and not 100% so worry about his effectiveness when he does come back.

They'll be crushed by SFG if they get that far, the Pats are wildly overrated and play in a joke division, they're 6-0 every year before a pass is thrown. At best, another SB loss for Marcia Brady.

on last night's form it's game, set and match for the others. And that was without The Gronk!!!!

The Giants, obviously.