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that is some MISS.....jesus that was bad...

These Pats are the luckiest fukking b@stards known to man

Evans had a clear TD

Did the Ravens sign Andy Carroll ?

speechless

OMG

He didn't have it Harry. Never had posession. Just looked it in Slow mo

Bet he sleeps well tonight

nice miss

not quite sure how that wasnt an evans TD

FFS...choked...you f**kin Cuntdiff!!!!! F**kin hate the Patriots

Billy, don't be a hero...

game won and superbowl berth to game lost and season over in seconds.

game won and superbowl berth to game lost and season over in seconds.

cant believe it TD pass dropped and a 30 yard FG missed

two feet down

completed the catch and then had it knocked out

it wasn't even near, missed by 20 feet

Holy **** - I would have put my house on him making that

32 yards

I think he had it..

SAme as a catch on the field need to maintain possession and make a footballing move usaully 2 steps

Lads, it is the Ravens' coaches fault!

If he had gone with him on that 52 yard attempt then he would of had more confidence.

It's like you are a top penalty taker and get told you will not be taking one in the shootout, then somebody gets injured and you have to go back in (you wont have any confidence)

Pats very lucky tonite.  Ravens beats themselves.

are you for real Harry?! not two step/football move

It wasn't even close, how the hell has Cuntduff got a job in the NFL???

GoBallistic

Did the Ravens sign Andy Carroll ?

I assume the Evans TD was the whole "football move" thing or no control

The criteria for a catch & TD are much more stringent than for a RB just having to break the plane

Had to be able to make a football move Harry, he didn't. Never had posession. I backed the Ravens toO!

welshie

WALOFS

giants and the 49ers are going to tear this lot a new one in indy

Incredible scenes.

he did maintain it...how long do you have to fecking maintain it? he had it secured and moved..then it was knocked down

Awful stuff.  Kicker never seemed ready, only got into position with 10 secs on the play clock.  Should have taken their last time out and reset.

flacco should have had a 1st down anyway

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CALLED IT

You're wrong I'm afraid Harry.

i thought that was a td,thought u just had to put both feet down in end zone for it to count !

on replay it wasnt a TD

poor from evans

just seen evans catch..he has two hands around the ball...its then knocked out...i dont get how that isnt a TD

green on ravens here, harry, agree no possession

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:13PM, HARRY22 wrote:

flacco should have had a 1st down anyway

Forgot that one. In the space of less than 2 mins doesn't run for easy first down, dropped TD pass and 32 yd field goal miss. You couldn't make it up

that kick looks worse the more i watch it absolutely horrible

Pause it d13 just before pats player knocks it out...evans is has his arms around the ball

should have stuck with boldin

i cannot believe these pats have stumbled into the SB

I think you need to read up on the rules Harry.

still in shock 'ere, had a tidy sum built up on the Ravens thro the game & then

Lee fookin Evans.....i bet the rubber faced comedian would have held on

pissing down in frisco..will favour the niners

Tie Tie backers seething

yeah harry he had it but you still has to make a football move or maintain possession before its a td

or do u have to bounce the ball & do a silly dance for it to count ?

these guys play a lifetime for this chance, lost to two blown plays. ravens better today, what a pity

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:16PM, furrelli wrote:

still in shock 'ere, had a tidy sum built up on the Ravens thro the game & then

yeah me too. Look what I ended up with :


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could the Ravens have reviewed that TD drop

well they would be if it had been a tie at HT

its a TD

commentator goes with evans TD also

All reviews in the last 2 mins are made by the booth Lix

thats a TD...

ah ok , cheers glossy

It was a TD looking at it again

harry is right

he has possession

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:17PM, Lix wrote:

could the Ravens have reviewed that TD drop

I thought they were supposed to review anything in the last 2 mins!

Both feet need to be down. No TD.

Flacco couldn't make that 1st down - he threw it because he was being tackled

his second foot was down

incaseof you dont have to make a football move in the endzone

I think he knocks it out before the left foot comes down.

Split seconds though

I think it's a TD now

that game will haunt the Ravens..how they didnt win that or at least take to OT beggers belief...

well thats 67p more than me jus couldn't see the Ravens loosing it, they were moving the ball ground & air & holding the Pats to zip & then...... win some loose some

flacco could have dived for 1st down with ease..then spike the ball

It only looks like he has posession on Slo-mo replay.

He never established posession or made a football move. As the comms rightly say, a different level of posession is required for a TD than in the outfield.

if the giants get throught tonight they will beat the patriots

Paul - as stated in the studio the rules are different when in the end zone.

The balls popped out before his left foot is down.

no in end zone you have to maintain possession to complete the catch
All you really have to do is watch Bengals late TD vs RAvens this year

that was strange how they didnt even look at it

completely different scenario incaseof

Harry, how could Flacco dive for a first down?

You mean on a QB sneak?

After reviewing on SKY+ second foot was NOT down before it was popped out.

not sure what the exact rule is, but need to maintain possession maybe 3 steps or to the ground (in or out of bounds) afaik

Touchdown and conversion receptions in the end zone are made when a receiver catch a legal pass and have possession of the football and both feet in bounds within the end zone.

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:22PM, grayhawk wrote:

After reviewing on SKY+ second foot was NOT down before it was popped out.

Correct.

not really, it's all about if you got possession of it...you can have two feet down inbound and drop the ball when you're out of bounds and it's incomplete...have to maintain possession...never did

"A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds. To gain possession of a loose ball that has been caught, intercepted or recovered, a player must have complete control of the ball and have both feet completely on the ground inbounds or any other part of his body, other than his hands, on the ground inbounds. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession. This rule applies to the field of play and in the end zone."

This Byzantine blather is proceeded by an even more confusing "Note 1," known as the "going-to-the-ground" clause. The G2G states, "A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball [with or without contact by a defender] must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, it is a catch, interception or recovery."

Talking margins here....I though 2nd foot was down then popped out...after slow mo it all happens at same time, tough call.....gutted

its over now anyway, its in the book as i say

really cant see pats winning it though

they arent good enough on defence

the giants ould murder that secondary

I'm sure that play will be under the microscope and interesting to see what the media says.

Feel terrible for the kicker, reminds me of the bodged FG from Dallas against the seahawks a few years ago.  That was incredible.

Steve Tyler looks like he has just been dug up

none of the ravens coaching staff thought it was a TD, but those that lost on Betfair did.


betfair losers are probably right

relevant part:

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.

relevant part:

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.

great game ... on to the next 1 guys

The call stands. There are never any bad calls!

great game, thought Ravens did really well against what was expected to be a comfy win in most places for NE. Going to stick with the D team a go for the Giants in the next one

Not sure the giants are the D team in this match up

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Some stats for you Raven backers or the long odds on Pats backers

The Pats have not beaten a single team with a winning record this year

The Ravens have playes 7 teams with a winning record and beaten 6 of them

Hmmmmm

Can't get my head around this game cos I think Flaco is simply terrible, the man is a clueless headless chicken with no touch but they can run the ball and the Pats D is average at best.

Depends how injured Ed Reed is imo

Giants are the bet of the night imo, 49's are not that good and played an easy schedule

The G men will be too good on D and are looking decent on the O too now 


Another strong arm QB with no brain and no idea , he is meligned because he is no good when it really matters

McNab of old ..M Sanchez today are very similar in they are athletes with cannons but throw terribly in the clutch and make terrible decisions.

The Ravens would be abetter team with a QB who manages the game ( T Dilfer ) rather than a muppett who thinks he can throw a football thru a keyhole from 3 miles.

Hope for G Men by 1-6 now for the double

what were the odds at HT?

odds swing in 4Q?  lowest Baltimore got to? and lowest Patriots before that?