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Report OVERSEAS January 22, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
that is some MISS.....jesus that was bad...
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
These Pats are the luckiest fukking b@stards known to man

Evans had a clear TD
Report GoBallistic January 22, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
Did the Ravens sign Andy Carroll ?
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
speechless
Report caramba January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
OMG
Report Glossy January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
He didn't have it Harry. Never had posession. Just looked it in Slow mo
Report Swardean January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
Bet he sleeps well tonight
Report ;[p January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
nice missExcited
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
not quite sure how that wasnt an evans TDConfusedConfused
Report jayc27 January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
FFS...choked...you f**kin Cuntdiff!!!!! F**kin hate the Patriots
Report ManWithNoName January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
Billy, don't be a hero...
Report unders101 January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
game won and superbowl berth to game lost and season over in seconds.
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
game won and superbowl berth to game lost and season over in seconds.
Report themover January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
cant believe it Laugh TD pass dropped and a 30 yard FG missed Cry
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
two feet down

completed the catch and then had it knocked out
Report Agent G January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
it wasn't even near, missed by 20 feet HappyHappyHappyHappyHappyHappy
Report milla445 January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
Holy **** - I would have put my house on him making that

32 yards

Laugh
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
I think he had it..
Report Swardean January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
SAme as a catch on the field need to maintain possession and make a footballing move usaully 2 steps
Report Welshie5121 January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
Lads, it is the Ravens' coaches fault!

If he had gone with him on that 52 yard attempt then he would of had more confidence.

It's like you are a top penalty taker and get told you will not be taking one in the shootout, then somebody gets injured and you have to go back in (you wont have any confidence)
Report Kriskin January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
Pats very lucky tonite.  Ravens beats themselves.
Report incaseof January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
are you for real Harry?! not two step/football move
Report ReimerpYsatnaf January 22, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
It wasn't even close, how the hell has Cuntduff got a job in the NFL??? Cry
Report ;[p January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
GoBallistic

Did the Ravens sign Andy Carroll ?



LaughLaughLaugh
Report db1974 January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
I assume the Evans TD was the whole "football move" thing or no control

The criteria for a catch & TD are much more stringent than for a RB just having to break the plane
Report Glossy January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
Had to be able to make a football move Harry, he didn't. Never had posession. I backed the Ravens toO!
Report fivebagken January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
welshie

WALOFS
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
giants and the 49ers are going to tear this lot a new one in indy
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
Incredible scenes.
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
he did maintain it...how long do you have to fecking maintain it? he had it secured and moved..then it was knocked down
Report Kingmambo January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
Awful stuff.  Kicker never seemed ready, only got into position with 10 secs on the play clock.  Should have taken their last time out and reset.
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
flacco should have had a 1st down anyway
Report HowieTheRookie. January 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
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Watch the Ravens get within 50 yards and Cundiff missesLaugh


CALLED IT Cool
Report Glossy January 22, 2012 11:14 PM GMT
You're wrong I'm afraid Harry.
Report book January 22, 2012 11:14 PM GMT
i thought that was a td,thought u just had to put both feet down in end zone for it to count !
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:14 PM GMT
on replay it wasnt a TD

poor from evans
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:14 PM GMT
just seen evans catch..he has two hands around the ball...its then knocked out...i dont get how that isnt a TD
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:14 PM GMT
green on ravens here, harry, agree no possession
Report themover January 22, 2012 11:15 PM GMT

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:13PM, HARRY22 wrote:


flacco should have had a 1st down anyway


Forgot that one. In the space of less than 2 mins doesn't run for easy first down, dropped TD pass and 32 yd field goal miss. You couldn't make it up Laugh

Report TINnotaTON January 22, 2012 11:15 PM GMT
that kick looks worse the more i watch it Laugh absolutely horrible
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:15 PM GMT
Pause it d13 just before pats player knocks it out...evans is has his arms around the ball
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
should have stuck with boldin
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
i cannot believe these pats have stumbled into the SB
Report Glossy January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
I think you need to read up on the rules Harry.
Report furrelli January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
still in shock 'ere, had a tidy sum built up on the Ravens thro the game & then Shocked
Report grayhawk January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
Lee fookin Evans.....i bet the rubber faced comedian would have held on Cry
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
pissing down in frisco..will favour the niners
Report HowieTheRookie. January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
Tie Tie backers seething
Report incaseof January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
yeah harry he had it but you still has to make a football move or maintain possession before its a td
Report book January 22, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
or do u have to bounce the ball & do a silly dance for it to count ?
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
these guys play a lifetime for this chance, lost to two blown plays. ravens better today, what a pity
Report themover January 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:16PM, furrelli wrote:


still in shock 'ere, had a tidy sum built up on the Ravens thro the game & then


yeah me too. Look what I ended up with :


Net Market Total:    0.67

Laugh

Report Lix January 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
could the Ravens have reviewed that TD drop
Report HowieTheRookie. January 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
well they would be if it had been a tie at HTSad
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
its a TD
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
commentator goes with evans TD also
Report Glossy January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
All reviews in the last 2 mins are made by the booth Lix
Report OVERSEAS January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
thats a TD...
Report Lix January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
ah ok , cheers glossy
Report ReimerpYsatnaf January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
It was a TD looking at it again Cry
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
harry is right

he has possession
Report Welshie5121 January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:17PM, Lix wrote:


could the Ravens have reviewed that TD drop


I thought they were supposed to review anything in the last 2 mins!

Report Mariner Paul January 22, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
Both feet need to be down. No TD.
Report db1974 January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
Flacco couldn't make that 1st down - he threw it because he was being tackled
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
his second foot was down
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
incaseof you dont have to make a football move in the endzone
Report Welshie5121 January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
I think he knocks it out before the left foot comes down.

Split seconds though
Report db1974 January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
I think it's a TD now
Report OVERSEAS January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
that game will haunt the Ravens..how they didnt win that or at least take to OT beggers belief...
Report furrelli January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
well thats 67p more than me Laugh jus couldn't see the Ravens loosing it, they were moving the ball ground & air & holding the Pats to zip & then...... win some loose some
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
flacco could have dived for 1st down with ease..then spike the ball
Report Glossy January 22, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
It only looks like he has posession on Slo-mo replay.

He never established posession or made a football move. As the comms rightly say, a different level of posession is required for a TD than in the outfield.
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
if the giants get throught tonight they will beat the patriots
Report Kriskin January 22, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
Paul - as stated in the studio the rules are different when in the end zone.
Report Mariner Paul January 22, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
The balls popped out before his left foot is down.
Report incaseof January 22, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
no in end zone you have to maintain possession to complete the catch
All you really have to do is watch Bengals late TD vs RAvens this year
Report HARRY22 January 22, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
that was strange how they didnt even look at it
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
completely different scenario incaseof
Report db1974 January 22, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
Harry, how could Flacco dive for a first down?

You mean on a QB sneak?
Report grayhawk January 22, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
After reviewing on SKY+ second foot was NOT down before it was popped out.
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
not sure what the exact rule is, but need to maintain possession maybe 3 steps or to the ground (in or out of bounds) afaik
Report themover January 22, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
Touchdown and conversion receptions in the end zone are made when a receiver catch a legal pass and have possession of the football and both feet in bounds within the end zone.
Report Mariner Paul January 22, 2012 11:23 PM GMT

Jan 22, 2012 -- 5:22PM, grayhawk wrote:


After reviewing on SKY+ second foot was NOT down before it was popped out.


Correct.

Report incaseof January 22, 2012 11:24 PM GMT
not really, it's all about if you got possession of it...you can have two feet down inbound and drop the ball when you're out of bounds and it's incomplete...have to maintain possession...never did
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
"A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds. To gain possession of a loose ball that has been caught, intercepted or recovered, a player must have complete control of the ball and have both feet completely on the ground inbounds or any other part of his body, other than his hands, on the ground inbounds. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession. This rule applies to the field of play and in the end zone."

This Byzantine blather is proceeded by an even more confusing "Note 1," known as the "going-to-the-ground" clause. The G2G states, "A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball [with or without contact by a defender] must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, it is a catch, interception or recovery."
Report jayc27 January 22, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
Talking margins here....I though 2nd foot was down then popped out...after slow mo it all happens at same time, tough call.....gutted
Report d13phe January 22, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
its over now anyway, its in the book as i say

really cant see pats winning it though

they arent good enough on defence

the giants ould murder that secondary
Report Swardean January 22, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
I'm sure that play will be under the microscope and interesting to see what the media says.

Feel terrible for the kicker, reminds me of the bodged FG from Dallas against the seahawks a few years ago.  That was incredible.
Report unders101 January 22, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
Steve Tyler looks like he has just been dug up Shocked
Report Agent G January 22, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
none of the ravens coaching staff thought it was a TD, but those that lost on Betfair did.


betfair losers are probably right Wink
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
relevant part:

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
Report singero January 22, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
relevant part:

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
Report Beaniash January 22, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
great game ... on to the next 1 guys
Report Mariner Paul January 22, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
The call stands. There are never any bad calls! Grin
Report themover January 22, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
great game, thought Ravens did really well against what was expected to be a comfy win in most places for NE. Going to stick with the D team a go for the Giants in the next one Crazy
Report Swardean January 22, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
Not sure the giants are the D team in this match up
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Some stats for you Raven backers or the long odds on Pats backers

The Pats have not beaten a single team with a winning record this year

The Ravens have playes 7 teams with a winning record and beaten 6 of them

Hmmmmm

Can't get my head around this game cos I think Flaco is simply terrible, the man is a clueless headless chicken with no touch but they can run the ball and the Pats D is average at best.

Depends how injured Ed Reed is imo

Giants are the bet of the night imo, 49's are not that good and played an easy schedule

The G men will be too good on D and are looking decent on the O too now 


Another strong arm QB with no brain and no idea , he is meligned because he is no good when it really matters

McNab of old ..M Sanchez today are very similar in they are athletes with cannons but throw terribly in the clutch and make terrible decisions.

The Ravens would be abetter team with a QB who manages the game ( T Dilfer ) rather than a muppett who thinks he can throw a football thru a keyhole from 3 miles.

Hope for G Men by 1-6 now for the double
Report hutyee January 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
what were the odds at HT?

odds swing in 4Q?  lowest Baltimore got to? and lowest Patriots before that?
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