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wee eck
20 Dec 11 10:14
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play offs?  I cant see anything but a miracle happening for

that to happen, yet they can be laid at 50s on here.
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Report db1974 December 20, 2011 10:28 AM GMT
No miracles necessary

Week 16
Jets beat Giants
Eagles beat Cowboys

Week 17
Giants beat Cowboys
Eagles beat Redskins

All 3 teams then tied on 8-8

Eagles will then win on divisional wins (4 vs 3 for Giants & Cowboys)
Report wee eck December 20, 2011 12:53 PM GMT
db1974, thanks , I  did not know about the bonus of Divisional wins.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson December 20, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
good lay @ 50's for me as i explained in the 'how bad giants last night' thread
Report CrazySnake December 22, 2011 3:15 AM GMT
db got it correct, only issue is what the correct price for that to occur and then the price for the Eagles to win it all from 4th seed...

Jets beat Giants 1.694
Eagles beat Cowboys 2.14
Eagles beat Redskins 1.33
Giants beat Cowboys 1.65 (last 2 prices ie week 17 are only my guesses at this stage.) Could be 20% out.

So laying 50s you would effectively be laying the Eagles at 6.28 to win the Superbowl at the end of the regular season. I think they should be closer to 80s because they will probably be at least 10s to win it all at that point. They cannot avoid a first round wild card match up, although that game would be at home.

Personally, I am laying as much Eagles to win the SB as possible at these prices while taking the parlay of Eagles/Jets for the same amount. I strongly suspect I could get 20-25 after this week at worst, and if the parlay doesnt hit it's game over anyway.

CS
Report d13phe December 22, 2011 11:08 AM GMT
Does anyone understand why the Jets are so big for the SB

they are favourites to get the number 6 spot and then potentially go to Houston who will be no great shakes in the playoffs and then play Baltimore (who haven't really impressed) and then play either New England or the Steelers for the AFC?
Report CrazySnake December 22, 2011 3:23 PM GMT
Jets will probably have to win out to make it and havent looked all that good. Their loss to the Eagles was awful and they looked anything but a playoff team. Sanchez is iffy at best and their running game hasnt looked as good as last year.
Whilst Baltimore has been patchy, anything on home turf is almost a gimme. It is only their road record that casts doubt upon them. As the likely second seed they only have to hit the road if NE wins through to the AFC championship and Baltimore has a fair record against the Pats in any case.
Jets basically play an equal home game against the Giants who have been very patchy themselves but at best would give it an almighty shake. I favour the Giants in that one based upon their up and down habits. Last week they were awful so it stands to reason this week they will show up.

Jets price about right for mine, a touch high, but not out of the ballpark. I have seen 67 at a couple of corps, so 75 seems fair enough.
Report CrazySnake December 24, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
People are so clueless. Giants won today and people are still backing the Eagles at 600s for the SB.
No wonder people make a living here.
Report d13phe December 24, 2011 10:47 PM GMT
are the Bengals a shoe in now for the AFC 6th seed?
Report Nilsson Schmilsson December 24, 2011 10:50 PM GMT
no
Report d13phe December 24, 2011 10:53 PM GMT
explain ron

im losing the plot with the wildcards and i have had too much to drink to work it out
Report db1974 December 24, 2011 11:40 PM GMT
There's a couple of different scenarios but the Bengal's Strength-of-Victory is not good enough

If the Jets AND Titans both win and the Bengals lose then the Bengals are out.
Report db1974 December 24, 2011 11:40 PM GMT
There's a couple of different scenarios but the Bengal's Strength-of-Victory is not good enough

If the Jets AND Titans both win and the Bengals lose then the Bengals are out.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson December 24, 2011 11:41 PM GMT
^^ what he said Grin
Report M.V.P. December 24, 2011 11:47 PM GMT
Playoff race in detail and a whole lot more (NBA, MLB etc.)...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

Fantastic site.
Report d13phe December 25, 2011 10:48 AM GMT
I think the bengals are still outstanding value tbh

The jets and the titans both have tough away games and I think the bengals will beat the ravens at home anyway

They then face Houston away who don't look a threat without a QB

Got them at 240/1 and won't be laying off just yet

Have the jets as backup just in case
Report db1974 December 25, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
How can the Titans' road game against Houston be tough but the Bengals' road game against Houston be easy os it's against a team who don't have a QB!
Report d13phe December 25, 2011 10:01 PM GMT
Because the bengals are a much better team

I just think they are too big considering they have a home game albeit against the ravens

I personally think the jets and the bengals would beat the texans but not the titans
Report db1974 December 26, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
I think Bengals will beat the Ravens anyway
Report The real Moaner December 26, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
I don't think the Bengals would shorten even if they made the playoffs.

2.5 @ Hou
4 @ NE (Do not match up well)
4 @ Bal / Pit
5 v GB

Bit like Seattle / St Louis last year who were 150 going into the Eliminator game and then drifted to 200 after qualifying!
Report CrazySnake December 27, 2011 1:06 AM GMT
I love these fantasy odds people put up while completely ignoring the possibility (and associated odds) of other more favourable match ups. 200/1 assumes results that have a price associated with their outcomes. In addition, strength of victory in the playoffs will have a major influence.
Cincy will not be 200/1 overall if other results go their way (assuming they make it).
Having said that, 120/1 right now is unders if any of the odds below are even remotely close.
Report The real Moaner December 27, 2011 11:02 AM GMT
Of course they won't be 200/1. Nor should they be, all I'm saying is that they are underpriced at the moment. And there is no guarantee of them meeting those sides, but that is how I would price them up in those games.

I just don't get why they are so much shorter than New York Jets, who would probably get in if all games went according to likely starting odds, and would be a real threat in the playoffs whilst I'm not sure why Tennessee are 5 times the Bengals price either.
Report CrazySnake December 28, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
Best value for mine is the Cowboys. 60s at 2.33 to make it means they would be 26 for the SB if they happened to beat the Giants. I think they would be significantly shorter than that.
Report ReimerpYsatnaf January 4, 2012 12:45 PM GMT
Lurie has left all the decisions on coaching staff down to Andy Reid. So what do we think, will Castillo still be defensive coordinator next season?

I also see DeSean Jackson has apoligised for letting his contract issues affect his play. He says he wants to stay at the Eagles but honestly doesn't know if he will be or not. For gods sake give him a much improved contract.
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