Will the Two conferences decider fall into different weeks for Prem Charage

I think by the times e.g. the AFC getting settled at 11pm ish and then the NFC on Monday at 4am ish this will be in the next week so you may lose out on some profit as by my calculations they will be in different charge weeks

nothing is fair about the premium charge,look elsewhere

Yea betfair is a disgrace, just do most of your betting elsewhere

With that hooter?

We'll have a whip round for a strimmer, that way you can do your back and palms at the same time :)

SCOBYTOO...I think you could be right. You imagine common sense would be used now again.

The only good news is I think anyone who bet before the 2nd lot of PC charges were introduced is entiled to a PC waiver provided they weren't liable if the old PC charge was involved. Something to do with contact law and the contract your bet fell under with Betfair at the time.

Yeah sounds complicated enough to fall under Premiun Charges rules. :^0

BOBBLER. They changed it from 60 weeks to a lifetime and removed the 250 market per 60 week rule.
Which was the one that killed most of us and seems to have brought 100s more punters into the net.

But at least they have now got the Portal going. Type in that and you get a fair idea of your faith both now and in the future.

If it allows you access its means your getting very near in their eyes. If you can't get it. It means your a net loser or a long way to go.

Just make sure you type it in while on the Betfair page as otherwise you can't get in as you must be signed in to Betfair at the same time to see it.

Well I don't know should I wish you luck or hope your not there or hope you are. Like I said if you are your winning a few if your not your getting skinned except you don't have to worry about the PC. :^0

https://premiumcharge.betfair.com/PremiumPortal/portal

Thats it above anyway.......Cheers

so if my charges drop to below 20% would i then pay premium charge immediately?? if so im going to start losing on purpose! cant be that difficult really, back a few good things at the bookies and lay them on here.

BOBBLER...Yeah you are getting very near one good win and your fcuked. Yeah its immediate they are meant to allow you off the first time if they haven't notifly you in advance. But it seems thats very hit and miss and some say they never kept note early on, on who they notifly and who they didn't and lots claim they have paid without recieving a warning.

As for the strategy of laying one team here such as a 1/1 money shot and then backing them with the bookies. If that team LAY does come up your left in further trouble and with a bill the following Wednesday ending up paying 23% commission on it... So much then for that strategy you be saying.

The big problem most of us have is once you go into PC land your liable to pay 23% on your winnings until you start including some losers. If your just betting on sports like the NFL where there are only Two outcomes its not that difficult to back a few winners in a row. Or if like me you sometimes just have one bet a week its very hard to get back out of it.

Which leaves you at the end of day asking are Betfair prices 23% better than elsewhere. If there not you might as well do yourself a favour and save some money and back elsewhere ..Cheers

he doesn't lie................called himself a t0sser last week

I thought the Premium Charge was a tax on people who have a very unfair advantage (** the system). Strange that you would admit to paying it ;)

We'll have a whip round for a strimmer

:^0

i have an unfair advantage, im good at betting.

Those plates will only appreciate in value.

Please don't tell them in Betfair that" betting existed before then" as it would only upset them. :^0

BOBBLER. Getting even on bets will do nothing for the Premiun Charges as it doesn't decrease your profit already made or increase the commission you paid them.

Any winners you have even if you paid them 5% commission they will only credit you with 3% of it so you have to find another 17% from somewhere if you want to avoid a premiun charge on your winnings.

yeah but its gross profit so it must mean before c'mish? so if i had £300 of bets but only broke even i would have made a profit before c'mish. so say i paid £30 in c'mish my groos p/l should rise by £30 (cos without the c'mish ive made £30 profit) and my charges raise by £30 too. shouldnt it?? or should it?? ffs its complicated lol

i have to admit i thought theyd have given it up by now, it cant be a good move financially surely? ive noticed a huge drop off in liquidity during the last year or so on many of the lesser played markets, not sure if thats a coincidence or not. i expect the only people getting charged are genuine punters, big traders will have probably figured a way around it with so much money at stake. its not even just the charges its the uncertainty, like i often back stuff on here thats just a cover bet of a longterm bet ive got going elsewhere. it often involves backing something at big prices that i dont really think is going to win, just to make sure i get my stakes back from bets elsewhere. it could be £300 at 20s to get 6k back on something that has 6 months to run. how can you do that when youve got no idea if in 6 months it wins and 20% of the 6k (which isnt even a profit cos youve bet that money on other selections elsewhere) might get taken away?? id rather they just scrapped the discounts and charge everybody 5%. in fact id rather they charged everybody 6% at least id know where i stand and what bet ive actually got when i put it on.

the cutoff point(for PC) is 23.59 on the sunday :-

so the Colts/Jets game 8:00 KO almost certainly will be settled this week
the Saints/Vikes game 23:40 KO will be settled the week after

given a normal 3 hour game scenario

i was just trying to give some clarification for the original poster...the "23:59" came direct from the premium people

ahh ffs! i tried to break even today with a load of bets to try and boost up my total charges percent... and ended up winning 800 quid by accident! :(