who would your money be on at this point to win the SUPER BOWL

Pittsburgh (nap)

Vikings or NE for me

Saints for me, I think the Colts might have a better record over the course of the regular season, but their run game has been abysmal thus far (which goes to show how well Manning is playing), and you need to be able to run the ball in the Play-offs.

vikings have the best RB in the league

ace high changed from patriots to denver now...who next week

and you need to be able to run the ball in the Play-offs.

Absolute nonsense

ace high changed from patriots to denver now...who next week

Mugster - I never tipped denver. And I still fancy pats to make AFC Champ game.

pittsburgh i mean lol...got denve on the brain at the moment as they are showing how poor they are

mugster hmmmm

Ace High 16 Nov 00:16
and you need to be able to run the ball in the Play-offs.

Absolute nonsense

Huh? When was the last time a one-dimensional team got further than the Wildcard/Divisional round?

The defending champions?

We All know who,
Name your Team & I'll Tell Why they Won't

Example : Steeler's although Fitter than last year, Their Style of Game is why they Won't. Unable to score , score again & score again. Any one who manager's a 14 point lead will show them Up.

The defending champions who could both run and pass the ball?

ace high is a mug of the highest order...always talks nonsense doggy

Arizona were as one dimensional as it gets last season.

doggy we had this last season...remember they started finding the pass game which was missing early on and started to click in november

i recall it being the baltimore game...bothD were superb..the difference was the offence of pitts in the end

Vikings for me

SLB
I would dissagree , they had the Division all tied up, & Nothing to Prove went on to play in the super bowl, what more did you want ?

said it all along...vikes have the best balance throughout the team..you may not see it all yet but this i believe will help them in the playoffs...1 defeat so far

arizona could of easily of won...

DoggyLFC proving he knows nothing.

Rushing ranking last year

Pittsburgh - 23rd
Arizona - 32nd

ACE HIGH...ur proving ur a mug..who cares what the ranking was??

SLB 16 Nov 00:30
Arizona were as one dimensional as it gets last season.

You sure about that?

In the Wildcard round against the Falcons, their RB's were going for 4+ yards per clip.

In the Divisional round against the Panthers, their RB's were going for over 4 yards per carry.

Even in the AFCCG against a very good Run D, they managed 100 yards+.

In the Playoffs, the Cards were far from one dimensional.

ace high just wasted 15 minutes navigating through nfl.com to come up with the most useless stat..so what?

Ace High 16 Nov 00:37
DoggyLFC proving he knows nothing.

Rushing ranking last year

Pittsburgh - 23rd
Arizona - 32nd

That would be the regular season?

Sorry, what has that got to do with the Playoffs?

exactly doggy...who cares what a team did from week 1- week 14 ffs..its what u do in the playoffs and they brought everything together...ace high = clueless mug who looks at stats and knows nothing about the game

can argue all you want

thats why we love the game

i reckon it comes from

New England
Vikings
Steelers

would not want to face any of them in the playoffs

the nugget,
Viking's a Chance, BUT ! Last 4 of 5 games in Regular season Will Be Physical
Any constant Attack and the Viking's will CRACK..... IMO.

Eh?

Do you think rushing ability is a button teams just push on and off when they please?

And for the record. Pitt and AZ both averaged 91yds rushing a game in the playoffs. So once again, not prolific.

Steelers run stats from the Playoffs....

Divisional round against the Chargers - Willie Parker had 27 carries for 146 yards and 2 TD's.

AFCCG, the Ravens #2 rated run D shut down the run game. But then the Ravens couldn't get it going against the #1 ranked rush D, which is why they lost.

Don't thank me.....

cant be having the Saints at all

a good team will shut them down and their D is a joke

Ace high being tortured...where u gone...??? bk to nfl.com to bring up some stats :^0 u always get teams who make a late run without having all the stats being great..

Harry - get back to the soccer forum, youre an embarassment, honestly.

will go for experience, by the time also rans start play-off football, the titans will have won TEN

Ace High 16 Nov 00:42
Eh?

Do you think rushing ability is a button teams just push on and off when they please?

And for the record. Pitt and AZ both averaged 91yds rushing a game in the playoffs. So once again, not prolific.

It doesn't need to be prolific, just 'there'.

One dimensional teams get shut down.

soccer forum???...ace high out of youre depth...you have many screen names and got from forum to forum talking rubbish like this...clueless MUG... obsessed with stats,,, you backed dallas tonight didnt u??thats why u r angry...you saw that dallas D was on form and greenbay couldnt protect rodgers so u went all in :^0 cos yer stats told u 2....sheep baaaaaaa

Steelers run stats from the Playoffs....

Divisional round against the Chargers - Willie Parker had 27 carries for 146 yards and 2 TD's.

AFCCG, the Ravens #2 rated run D shut down the run game. But then the Ravens couldn't get it going against the #1 ranked rush D, which is why they lost.

Don't thank me.....

Baltimore lost becuase they couldnt pass the ball against Pittsburgh.

Wow, 1 great rushing game over a 3 game span. You win.

HARRY22 16 Nov 00:35
arizona could of easily of won...

AND Should have , Coach 7 Player's Both to Blame.
they should have Known the steeler's game, & the fact they were NOT Fit !
Should have Defened like an Iron Gate. giving them Nowhere to go.

:^0 ACE HIGH desperation....u should just shut up imo...ur making a fool of yourself AGAIN

ACE HIGH stick to what you know...ermmm,,,,NOTHING

goodness me, what a thread.

For the record all I was doing was making the rather obvious point that over last season as a whole Arizona were a one-dimensional team. Not disputing that their run game did wake up a bit during the playoffs.

:)

dont worry SLB..just ace high talking rubbish pre usual

SLB, at no point did I say the Cards were anything other than one-dimensional during the regular season :)

gives u something to laugh about...every forum has its MUG...just happens we have ACEMUG

didn't realise it would cause this much of a stir.
i just wanted an idea of what most people thought at his stage. but from comments so far, it seems a bit early.
my nfl knowledge is limited, but wanted to know if therew as some value out there.
ill kep my eye on the viking and pats as the price's seem generous at the mo...
cheers all.

madlung yer knowledge cant be any less limited than ACE HIGH

Congrats Harry,

You just made 3 posts that contributed absolutely nothing.

Now jog on. School in the morning.

really, i know jack shi t.

YES ; Ace High
All season Team's ALLOWED the UNFIT ..To : " STEEL Game's " was a Discusting Episode in NFL.
All anyone had to say : was they not the only one's that allowed it to happen .
Beg's the Question : Just how Poor Some of the AMERICAN Coaches are ?
followed by the Statement : That an OUTSIDER ( outside of USA ) Would whip their A, SS-ES !

Lifetaker, im a fan, but even I couldnt figure that last post out.

Steelers bashing?

madlung 16 Nov 00:53


really, i know jack shi t.

you should exchange email addy with ACE HIGH...someit in common

who u siding with harry at this stage, or u undecided ??

Harry, can you just start your own thread with hillarious comments like

"LOL.....a mug is ACE HIGH, knows NOTHING, lol"

and leave the rest of the forum in peace.

Cheers.

Ahh, I should've read the fourth post properly before I opened my mouth imo.

Happy with my saints bet at 33/1. Wouldn't back them at the price they are now.

Looking a bit off colourin the last few games but could go into playoffs on top form.

It's hard to outscore them imo

Pats

patriots. though i think colts will get number 1 seed.

ace high the forum would be in peace if you werent such an angry mug who continues to be wrong

madlung 16 Nov 00:56


who u siding with harry at this stage, or u undecided ??


i was a big fan of the saints last season...dont know why i didnt get on at the price...wd all who did....undecided...so wide open u cant really dismiss anyones selection

colts most likely imo.

Let's SEE what the COLT'S Do to the Patriot's here,
use this game to SEE of the 2 who will stand the longest in the play-off's

Ace High .
Steelers bashing? Last year yes / this year will acknowledge thy are fitter.
Would love to Coach Against them.

lol gotta love the change on this thread. still think everyone is beatable imo, gonna be some shocks come playoff time, esp the home field advt team.
prob still pats would be my favs but boy it could be a exciting year, esp with tonights game.

there's an awful lot of rubbish in this league and we don't yet know how good the saints are as they've been beating up on poor teams. the patriots were all over the colts tonight until that 4th quarter meltdown,i'd still take them in the afc provided bellyache hasn't left a mark on his defense.
nfc at the prices,vikings or giants for me,still think the giants aren't a lost cause

NE

A lot of good things to take out of the game for patriots backers

Yeah but still questionable secondary. But would take Pats over Colts (in Indy) again.

Got Jags at 300s lol... good position in the hunt for one WC with a quite easy schedule.

I dunno, but I'm laying NO @ 3/1

patriots looked pretty good. probably the best team in the league. i know that sounds daft at 6-3 but thats just how the nfl is. all the top teams have problems, mainly with the defense. arizona could be coming up on the rails. still have to fancy new orleans at home against anybody. wouldnt really fancy them in the superbowl though.

true cunny...a worse record at this stahe dosent mean ur not as good or better than an unbeaten team

I am on Saints at 25s but their price isn't gonna drop much more until playoffs at least.

Thinking of laying it because they are nowhere near the team that NE were in 07, also think Vikes can beat them, as well as Colts and Pats at least.

Unfortunately also on Ravens and Broncos :S

i managed to get 40's on the giants to win superbowl outright.
I think thats amazing value to be fair. they just got thier bye week and will HAVE to win on the bounce back.

Its not going to need a major improvement on the giants part to make the playoffs. just stop making silly mistakes and get back to what they are good at. smash mouth football.

after sunday.. the patriots can win it all imo

orioles 16 Nov 18:51
I dunno, but I'm laying NO @ 3/1

Great news for the Saints and all Saints backers! :-)

Ouch.

*Adds Redrich to the list.

:0

Don't worry, I'm not entirely sure what the list is for.

The Dalai Lama is number 3 on the damn thing.

jeany 18 Nov 09:55
i managed to get 40's on the giants to win superbowl outright.
Great Value, well done

jeany 17 Nov 23:25


i managed to get 40's on the giants to win superbowl outright.
I think thats amazing value to be fair. they just got thier bye week and will HAVE to win on the bounce back.

Its not going to need a major improvement on the giants part to make the playoffs. just stop making silly mistakes and get back to what they are good at. smash mouth football.




are you serious?...the secondary is getting smashed....is ROSS done for the season..he was pretty impressive last season...

incaseof 16 Nov 15:59
Yeah but still questionable secondary. But would take Pats over Colts (in Indy) again.

We were ranked fourth in passing yards until Sunday night, and the secondary has been the real bright spark on defense this year. One of the great QB's and one of the best receivers in the game had fantastic games - it happens.

H, the secondary is getting smashed because the Giants can't get any pressure. Their CB's aren't great (where's the Corey Webster fan-boy disappeared to? :D), but they've been able to do a decent enough job in the past because they D-line was all over opposing QB's. Now that's not happening, they're getting picked apart - and that can happen no matter how good you are back there.

yeah they are good points but the boy ross has come on a lot and they do miss him...that is true if u dont get any pressure the best receivers in the league cant cover the best receivers...they will get open....anyone going into the playoffs has a genuine shot...thats the NFL...think the saints price is awful..dont even think they willl get home field

Really? If the Pats don't knock them off a week on Monday, I can't see anyone doing it. They could very well considerably go 16-0, or 15-1 even if we beat them.

I can see the Vikings losing anther couple though.

yeah really Doggy...ive stuck with this prediction all the way...i think minnesota gets home field and i think they are the better balance team...they still have their best Defensive player to come back WINFIELD...we can say they should of lost to the 49ers and then they should of won at heinz field...the saints are good but they have had some luck on the way...miami shook them up and the panthers and falcons ran them close....carolina dallas or new england can beat them...il say 2from3 they lose

atlanta away also...they arent nailed on at all

They have yer boys seattle next lol...u watch the buccs turn the saints over next weekend and then the pats roll up and win...vikes will be ahead in the nfc

Seattle, yikes. So much has gone wrong there in such a small amount of time. They desperately need to sort their O-line out, otherwise Hasselbeck's career (what's left of it) will be over very very soon. Their D has gone to sh*t too.

I have bet frisco for the div...im resigned to losing that bet also...looks like the cardinals are over their superbowl hangover....housh left the bengals a year too soon it seems

Minnesota will be underdogs to win in Arizona most likely, no certainty there. That would put them at best 14-2. So New Orleans could lose two games and still be level. Carolina away are just as tough for Minnesota as they are for NO. New Orleans may well lose a game, they would still be heavy odds against to be undefeated. However at this stage so would Minnesota not to lose another game. That loss to Pittsburgh may well be the difference.

true fallen angel...such a horrible way to lose...dominated that game...+1 either way in arizona game?...a repeat of last season would do ;)

arizona and cincy have to be the value bets, but when it comes to clutch time I'll take Brady

Obviously I am slightly biased based on my back of NO, I am expecting that if they get number 1 spot there be a 3.9 shot or better. I can see the arguements for Minnesota considering the schedule, it really depends on how good the patriots actually are I suppose. You pay your money and make your choice.

At least with backing either Minnesota or NO you limit youself to a 3 game post season, places a ceiling on price. Assuming you think at 7/2 arizona and dallas 6/3 are too far back. Another assumption I know but with any of this you have to make a call at some stage.

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