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tony57
02 Jun 17 19:53
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i carnt have cracksman?i think its a bit much to ask a horse to win the derby after 2 races with only winning a class 2 race then to come here..i know the horse is highly regarded and ive no doubt it,ll win big races in time i just think this is a bit early..im on eminent @15/2 e/wi think this trip will be the diffrence...also like permian..

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By:
roadrunner46
When: 03 Jun 17 09:40
goodluck tony, I'm on front two in the market, don't expect too may replies, seems people on here cant even be bothered to discuss the
biggest races on the calendar, this forum really is hopeless.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 03 Jun 17 13:15
Just looks a really open race to me anyway,some people wuld have an opinion on it but imagine more think it is ifs and buts.
Must watch but despite presige money in the pocket for me.
Enable looked a brilliant filly in the oaks yesterday.
By:
newapproach
When: 03 Jun 17 15:02
Capri is probably overpriced @ 22/1 given the openness of the race. Extra trip should suit and Heffernan usually rides Epsom supremely well.
By:
tony57
When: 03 Jun 17 15:36
my posts deleted again...im fed up with this crap..
By:
tony57
When: 03 Jun 17 15:37
my posts deleted again...im fed up with this crap..
By:
pa lapsy
When: 03 Jun 17 16:31
Double posting might be a good tactic Tony.

Surely Cliffs of Moher has lost his race already? Very wound up.
Best of luck.
By:
workrider
When: 03 Jun 17 16:41
What a race Paddy rode ,sadly he beat the fav.
By:
tony57
When: 03 Jun 17 16:48
pa, i posted a winner i fancied, and one that was beat..i just think theres a mod who has it in for me and others..
By:
pa lapsy
When: 03 Jun 17 16:53
It was some race,winner nearly brought down 2f out, not the playing up that cost Cliffs of Moher but the fierce early pace.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 03 Jun 17 17:02
Tony,ive no idea why,don't blame ya for being fed up.
By:
dj876
When: 03 Jun 17 17:02
It's extraordinary that AOB/Coolmore can have a 1-2 in the Derby and probably got it badly wrong.

The early strong pace set by the Coolmore horses probably in the end have meant the horse who traveled like the best one- Cliffs of Moher was outstayed.

From a commercial point of view- a hames of a race, the sold off Pour Moi beating an improving Galileo.

On a personal level,AOB would have wished that he had one of the offspring on board -unlikely they would have won then but AOB wouldn't be thinking that.

One thing is for absolute certain, Seamie Heff wouldn't have beaten Cliffs of Moher into second.
By:
padlock
When: 03 Jun 17 17:05
Good the mafia lose the future inflated stud fees
By:
dj876
When: 03 Jun 17 17:06
Excuse my Error -Pour Moi still with Coolmore but at the lower ranks of a NH stallion so still an underwhelming result

When was the last time John Magnier was seen at races/sales?
By:
punchestown
When: 03 Jun 17 17:10
Crazy that the winning jockey looked far from resolute.......
By:
by purpose
When: 03 Jun 17 17:41
Churhill is the key to their year as regards stallions.What ran in todays Derby will probably end up National Hunt sires.Would not fall down if i saw one or two of them jump hurdles in the green and gold.
By:
Kelly
When: 04 Jun 17 09:53
Thought Cliffs of Moher was going to win 3 lengths when he hit the front .  Reckon he didn't stay , ran out of petrol .
By:
workrider
When: 04 Jun 17 11:32
He stayed alright Kelly,just the winner was stronger at the finish.
By:
tony57
When: 04 Jun 17 13:32
great to see a jockey unknown have his day
By:
Vubiant
When: 04 Jun 17 14:54
Yes indeed...delighted for PB.
It shows any normally experienced pro jockey can ride a Gr 1 winner - it's only another race . All that's different is the media ballyhoo, prizemoney , glamour context etc.
If I muted the screen and said this is an all-aged claimer -no one could tell the difference between that and any Group race.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 04 Jun 17 16:12
my thoughts on the derby, ryan moore needs to watch videos of how the greats like lester piggot rode the Epsom derby, he useless
around Epsom, seems to think he can sit at the back of the field all the way around and win the race coming from virtually last
to first every year. clueless little bastard
By:
elvissss
When: 04 Jun 17 17:16
Laugh
By:
Clerkmore
When: 04 Jun 17 18:01
roadrunner46 • June 4, 2017 4:12 PM BST
my thoughts on the derby, ryan moore needs to watch videos of how the greats like lester piggot rode the Epsom derby, he useless
around Epsom, seems to think he can sit at the back of the field all the way around and win the race coming from virtually last
to first every year. clueless little bastard


Mickael Barzalona did it on Pour Moi in 2011 and Beggy came from further back than Moore yesterday.
By:
workrider
When: 04 Jun 17 20:02
If COM had finished like the winner  and was ridden by Ryan Moore we would be claiming it was one of the best Derby finish's ever! fact he was  40/1 seems to have blurred our vision.
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