Rory teeing up with The Don

Rory looked like a waif in the photos .  Hard to refuse the President if he asks you to appear , and he has a stranglehold on visas etc .  But I think my broken rib mught not have been healed in time .

Oh the tyranny of the passionate about being compassionate merchants,you are not alone barred from supporting Trump and his policies but the tyrants won't even allow you associate with him or any of his supporters.

It happened to the New England Patriots and they are now being disgracefully targeted.

The laughable " debate " in the House Of Commons where they tried to outdo each other with hyperbole and outrage but all conveniently forgot he was elected.

Its also laughable that Itcanbedone who is famed for his coarseness and vulgarity is like Hollywood offended by Trumps coarseness and vulgarity.

I always knew Trump was a lout but its his policies I like.

Whats not to like about the "grab 'em by the punnani" policy?

It was an infantile boast made by an insecure man many years ago.

Its something ye have in common,sexual insecurity and a need to boast about sexual conquests.
There are only two on here who behave like that,Itcanbedone does it with a bit of finesse and some humour,Rocketfingers does it in a sad lonely manner.

My favourite policy is probably the blanket ban on Muslims entering the country.

Never mind the 7 million Muslims already living in the US who can stroll to their local 7-11 and pick up an AK-47  on impulse.

There isint a blanket ban although there should be.

There is nothing you can do about your home grown terrorists bar monitor them but its madness to import people into your country who hate you.
Its crazy to bring in people who immediately go on welfare,demand special treatment and piggyback on the black experience.

People want to go to America because its America,it won't be America if the Democrats have their way.

I was wondering...what if he got the 7 million Muslims to build the wall and then offered them a peace dividend to stay on the far side.

If you are right though, they probably don't have the work ethic to get it completed in a sensible time frame.  Just too  busy picking up those big juicy American welfare cheques.

They may not be juicy by Swedish standards but to someone from Somalia they are substantial.

You go to a country you hate,they provide you with food and a house,you then want to turn it into the county you fled and you think that's alright.

Now that we are in the post PC era, when a man can be a man again and say what he damn well thinks, and to hell with the wilting snowflakes... how abut this.....

Let's bring back slavery. Starting with these ungrateful, dastardly Somalians freely flooding to the US (all of 3,000 last year btw).  Say 10 years hard labour, building walls and such with the carrot of citizenship  at the end of it.....A few hour a week of American Studies to aid with integration should appease the humanists and help with their eventual integration.  Everyone wins!  3,000 won't be enough...7 million would be ideal..hang on a cotton picking minute.....

Surely the beautiful people of the left have been doing this for over 40yrs , another name for it is the Gulags ,even the Mongolians had to leave for America,the original Red Indians in case you didn't know. Funny thing is the first guy to own a slave was a BLACKMAN.

Who do you think is more 'left' Wonks, you or me?

Sadly my man,you are a belly full of contradictions,one minute a kind caring person,the next a PC nut job.A dolly mixture of emotions is the best way to describe you.

I am fairly sure you are much further left than me on the vast majority of issues, though not all.

If you reflect on this, you will understand why lazy outdated inaccurate labels such as 'left', though very much in vogue on here, are increasingly irrelevant and misplaced.

Ah I see, a turncoat in progress here. Let's put it in simple form for you , Donald,wants to stop immigration,i.e. he's right wing,you want immigration,I'd stake  £100 that makes you a snowflake,or if you prefer a leftie.With the demise of PC I can understand your need to come back into the fold....

That would be yet another losing bet, Wonks!  Plus ca change.

Have a word with Wildmanfromborneo,I'm sure he'll be sympathetic to your plight...

Itcanbedone liberal on social issues,extreme right on economic issues.
Also sadly lacking in historical knowledge,his attempt to implicate people opposed to immigration with slavery is both wrong and contradictory.

The slave traders were the ultimate open border enthusiasts.

The point you don't get is America owe Somalia nothing,owe Nigeria nothing yet citizens of these countries arrive in America and demand preferential treatment,avail of affirmative action,they should get neither.
America does owe the descendants of slaves,it owes American Blacks,affirmative action is for them.
Its outrageous that the undeserving claim these benefits and prevent American Blacks get what's rightfully theirs.

Your new found fondness for Somalia is only because they got on that list,you will also falsely claim that these countries haven't produced terrorists.
It seems your short memory has forgotten who carried out the attack in Ohio State University and the stabbing in that shopping mall in Minnesota.

You completely misinterpreted what I said...I wasn't associating anti immigration people with Slave Traders

I was merely embracing this new non PC age and politely enquiring if Slavery was not a reasonable policy after all?  Free speech and to hell with the snowflakes.  Is it not an idea...10 years in a chain gang might knock the Fundamentalism out of what ever small % possess it....after 10 years hard labour these people would have begun to have earned their right to a life in America.  It would give Don & Co. time to Americanise them, which can only help with eventual integration.  And think of the wall building they could achieve in this time.

I mean if our new leaders are distancing themselves from following basic human right; "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution", why not kick on and ignore the others that are holding back our own best interests?

I am embracing my inner Donald and boy is it liberating!

PS. Wonks....I believe that your Commander has confirmed that you owe me a hundred bucks!

Itcanbedone ask yourself who granted them this human right ?
Asylum has been so twisted by human rights lawyers it means vast populations.
It was never envisaged that people could traverse continents to claim asylum.
Calais is a perfect example,thousands of asylum seekers in a safe country but its not enough they want to pick and choose.

The people who favour slavery are those that are coming.
They openly express their views about us infidels and even have rules about sex slavery.

If there is one thing history teaches us is that a nation that doesn't defend its borders will lose it,America and Israel two cases in point.

I will address that issue as soon as Wonks has confirmed that he owes me lunch.

That's a heck of a lunch,easy know there was a famine in this country if its a hundred bucks for lunch.

How you come too that conclusion I don't know ,were did this 100 bucks first appear pray tell!

£100 that makes you a snowflake,or if you prefer a leftie

Short term memory loss appears to increasingly be a feature of the forum.

You have the ability to change your mind when it suits I'll grant you that,personally I make you a dolly mixture.

The Commander has spoken on this subject.

Cough up, Wonks.

Itcanbedone liberal on social issues, that makes you a LEFTIE imo.

Wonks,

You consistently struggle with these labels.

Shirley being a liberal on social issue makes me a LIBERAL (on social issues) rather than a 'leftie'?

And when you claim, as you do, that I am "for immigration", that is another false claim.  I am in favour of a Europe wide policy to help deserving political refugees in dire need and recognise that we need to dramatically improve our efforts to correctly identify and help deserving cases - a huge challenge in itself. 

I am firmly against unlimited economic migration from outside the EU and agree with recent attempts to control/hinder economic migration within Europe, especially benefit and health 'tourists'.  That said, I recognise the benefits immigrants bring, in helping to fuel economic growth, compensate for ageing populations and compensating for skill shortages etc etc.

As Borneo has pointed out I am firmly to the right on the vast majority of fiscal matters; I believe in lower taxes, smaller governments, reduced regulation, dramatic reduction in welfare handouts (in Ireland especially) and above all I believe in competition, laissez faire markets and free trade.

Now don't be such a whining Socialist and cough up that 100 quid!

They are not dangerous, remember that thread,you didn't highlight ANY deserving political refugees in dire need, yours was an open door policy.You took Pa too task many times when he highlighted same . I have no problem dropping a few coins into your begging bowl,let me know what Centra you sit outside and I'll pop down.

I don't know anyone who has ever advocated an 'open door' policy, let alone me!

Pa went running as soon as I asked him to cut and paste any comments I made that had led him to his engrained misunderstanding of my position.

Regarding the payment, are you heading to Leixlip tonight for the Cheltenham.....if so you can leave the 100 quid behind the bar for Kavvie & Huddys & Co to enjoy.

* Cheltenham Preview

You were offering beds at one time,you didn't state they were for deserving refuees either. The tide is turning and you're trying to jump ship without losing face,but I'm on to ya.

Codswallop, I cant help it if you constantly confuse basic terms and labels or take inferences that aren't there.

Are you coughing up or wimping out of your debts in time-honoured Socialist fashion?

I'm glad to see you your turnaround is almost complete.
Are you coughing up or wimping out of your debts in time-honoured Socialist fashion?...
A Trumpophobe becoming more Trump like by the minute.....

Wimping out then I take it.

Disappointed in you, Wonks.

Don't get too near that desktop lamp.

"there is no them only us"

Yes, you were talking about the 20% that were Syrian that had the bobs to reach the Balkans,your picture is there, well done again, you can wallow in the drop in sterling,you yourself and your ilk can suffer the consequenses indirectly.
Well played, funny old world.

That's a lyric from a song, ya numpty Lapsy!

Cut and paste my direct comments (rather than your vague inaccurate recollections) and i will gladly take the time to explain your ingrained misunderstandings.  Its not as if you cannot find the thread in question...would take you all of 3 minutes or less to find the direct quotes and then  I could put your limited mind to rest, once and for all.

Put up or shut up, Lapsy.

Who do you think you are talking to? Put up or shut up indeed!

Oh, so the "there is no them only us" is a song lyric, haha

Anybody else would come to the conclusion we are all equal,still it is a "song lyric" in conjuction with a picture that was completely false and mislead the gullible as the bottom line is only 20% were Syrian and well off Syrians at that.

The sooner you come to terms that you were royally suckered,the quicker you will be able to move on.

How was the picture false?  In the same way the moon landings were false?  The photo happened.

**** or get off the pot...you are embarrassing yourself at this stage.

Quotes Pa, quotes....why can't you reproduce them?  What better way "to sucker" me.....

* Sh1t or get off the pot.

I really can't be bothered with you and have no intention pure time wasting.

Do you accept over 80% going through the Balkans were in fact economic migrants?

I have no more of an an accurate idea than you.  There are a variety of sources with a variety of estimates.

Let's assume for the purposes of advancing this discussion, that 80% is accurate....the point, surely, that you are asserting, and up on your high nelly about, is that I have claimed otherwise.

It's really very simple..and not time consuming...Put up the quote that proves this.

" There is no them only us"

That alone implies that at the time you were under the impression they were genuine, when the majotity were not, you never differentiated,instead lumped them as a group.
you hadn't a clue at the time but just dived in pledging a bed,it all came out in the wash later,but you were well duped.

That's it?  That's your quote that proves the point you are trying to make?

FFS...you've embarrassed yourself there, Pa.

Case dismissed.

Yep,that is it.

Shout loud,never admit anything, i know the game.

What a gobsh1te!

You should be in the dock for wasting Court time.

Pa, he'll be wanting a meeting with Donald soon enough,Oz is a classic champagne Socialist,concerned with the plight of the underdog, so long as he's not of European extraction.
Just back from lunch,my Pakistani host tells me he's getting married back home next year,his dear Mammy has found him a bride,Oz would find that comforting.

No worries,

It wasn't me pledging a bed.

let me summarise your case.

Because I repeated a song lyric "there is no them, only us" that implies that I inferred that the majority of people pouring into Europe were genuine asylum seekers.  Em...righto!

Pa, its just as well you chose working a Jack Hammer as your career because you would never have made it as Rumpole of the Bailey.

Now, if you will excuse, me I have devoted quite enough time to trying to help you understand, I am off to take Tea with the Vicar.

The bed is still pledged, ya tool.

Not that I will be using that kind of language in front of the Vicar.

Let me help you with the math, Pa...100% - 80% =  20%....this 20% are my focus.

Good day to you.

Pa, think we've hit a nerve!..

Erra leave him off Workrider,you get no thanks for trying to put the poor old hangishore right,only abuse,leave him off altogether,it is his bed after all.

He's going to give the poor aul Vicar a right ear full . Vicar will soon be applying to ROME for asylum....

, Maybe tis the Vicar that has him running wrong Workrider?

You can imagine him saying ah shure the poor ould Syrians and Dozy lappin it all up?

Standards slipping at the Vicars.  More of a 'Cream Tea' than an 'Afternoon Tea' per se.

And heres me thinking that sort of thing only happened in the Catholic Church.

You are thinking of the 'Cream Pie'  Wonks.

Note to Lapsy; you might need the Urban Dictionary for that one.

What you and the Vicar get up too is none of my business mate.

itcanbedone: Your wrong. Only last week app 12 yr old  was 18  plus attacking a women in england. Look who knows whos coming. Bollix to bringing anyone in. Because im sorry the next one you bring in could be blowing up your family. England app gave 1m and he blem himself up. GREAT.

we knew he was a wrong un well b4 this