Interesting thread this but can seem to reply....

Just came across the thread last night kavvie , was an interesting read, will check that out
Think i was chatting u before,  are u an Offalyman , spotted SidTheMileniumMan posting in the thread presume hes one , rarely post on here but good to know theres a few Offalymen on here.
Im sure theres no shortage of knobs like RoyalAcademy

Wildman must be loving Dundalk tonight!

I've backed him Pa, think he'll turn it round!

No complaints there!

Yeah, thought he might be a Dubai level horse at one stage. Still think he might win off that when he's in a bit better form. Thought he was gonna finish a lot better there the way he went through it

Thought the same brain dead, although done a quick read through the thread and changed my opinion , reckon figures might be exaggerated alright

making money on horses consistently over a long period of time without serious inside info is the stuff of fantasy........only the trainer has any idea of what the horse will do and then u have the animal itself.......it might not fancy it on the day.......u cant predict what it will do........so this is all drivel.

Here's some advice for you Biffo; as its from a knob you can choose to ignore it obviously.

If you want to make money punting horses - they're all I know - then you have to be serious about it, deadly serious. You go racing you have a bet every race or every other race you will lose. You bet just on Saturdays, holidays or holy days of obligation you will lose. Loser, End of!

The moment you treat it seriously the fun inevitably goes out of it because now there is (or should be) something serious at stake. You have to be disciplined, you need strong willpower and you avoid any frivolous bets or bets without study. This is not what most people think when they consider punting: it should be "hooray, hooray! what a clever lad am I, I backed a winner". This approach will make you a loser too because you will alter your betting pattern and strategy i.e. too much or too little on and you will play fast and loose with your own rules. I'd rather boast about a century of a 10/1 shot than a meagre tenner, who wouldn't?

So, there's two approaches to punting and making money:
1. Pay a tipster(s)
2. Do It Yourself

Tipsters:
Plenty of profitable betting services out there and "all selections proofed to the Sporting Chronicle & Sporting Life". (This is not a new phenomenon)
Profitable, provided you get the advertised price and provided you get your bet on.
You go this route and all other bets have to stop immediately. This might be boring, it might be frustrating, it will mean long losing runs as they are inevitable. You might sign up for two (or more) services. Then it becomes a greater game of cat-and-mouse with your on-line bookmakers and you are more like a bargain hunter at the sales in Grafton Street than you are a happy-clappy punter. The bookies will hate you and may quickly close you down once they see you are following tipping lines even if your account is temporarily in the red.

If you miss prices and back SP only, you will not win albeit you wont lose a lot either.
Go this route and it simply means being told what to do, when to do it and how much to have on and the "ideal" price to get. Most tire of this "dull as ditchwater" betting relatively quickly and especially if 5 or 10 losers in a row are given.

You are not buying inside information, you are buying price ricks in the market and some level of collateral form to justify the selection. Virtually every professional tipster uses this strategy and it has probably contributed greatly to the bookies attitude to profitable punters today. Too many chasing the same horse and the same price all at once. Bookies solution is to cut the odds, cut the stake and/or geld the punter.

The age old question always is: why do tipsters tip if they are so good at winner finding? Why do they give away their prices to Joe Public? Answer: most don't have the required balls to make the game pay professionally and at the level required - say, fifty grand every year - so its far easier to sell success from an Excel spreadsheet than to manage a betting bank that might require €200,000 in order to win €50,000. "Pretend betting" will give you any profit you like-ask Charles Dawson!

Do It Yourself
a few of my simple rules:
1. Work hard at it, very hard
2. Specialise - impossible otherwise as far too many options
3. Betting bank that cannot be touched for anything other than your chosen strategy-Betfair likely to be your main bookmaker.
4. Devise some kind of a staking plan-keep it simple imo
5. Never chase losses
6. Play the contrarian-something that isn't based on current models (this is what yanks my chain and why I would rather see Ruby potless on most occasions even if it means I can't wave my tricolour in Cheltenham!)
7. If your research and work is consistent and reliable,increase your stake on the higher priced horses (this is sacrilegious to much I have ever read.
8. Oh, and ignore "tips".
9. It's actually great fun if you find interesting angles into the game. Money management and all the other boring stuff comes after. If you can celebrate a Cartmel selling hurdle winner as the bet of any year you will have the game by the scruff of the neck.
10. Find out where the best brains are writing of the game and immerse yourself in your chosen field etc. etc.

No Charge.

Great Post alright, pity I didn't read it in time. I lost my little red ring today and I'm chasing it all on the Nap of the Day

Discipline is overrated!

Absolutely flying it from what I've heard, fair play to him.

What would you know about jacuzzis inside ya plum. Closest you'd get to one is the bubbles you'd see when you give the aul tk maxx a flush on cleaning duty!

It was a 1.01 shot either Declan or Ozy would get a mention in his reply. Talk about obsessed !

Then again you're probably right mincer, harbouring a lot of hate and anger the plum!