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24 Nov 16
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guests = tom mcgurk (rugby guy)........Alison o'connor (journalist) and a young lady, think she is a comedian.......never heard of her before
allison o'connor made reference to MALE WHITE PRIVELEDGE
all women and all male non whites are victims of male whites.........
allison o'connor made reference to MALE WHITE PRIVELEDGE
all women and all male non whites are victims of male whites.........
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* privilege
What is your point? Are you denying it exists?
Try waling around for a day as a black woman then come back to me.
What is your point? Are you denying it exists?
Try waling around for a day as a black woman then come back to me.
"Try walking around for a day as a black woman then come back to me"
Is that with high heels?
Saudi,s have exploited the labour of developing countries(Bangladesh,India etc) and forced them to live in sub human conditions all for their benefit.
What is their attitude towards poorer Arab countries.
Why do Pakistani's and Indians look down on people who come from a different sect/caste?
A white male going to their country(non-white) will hardly end up with a house,free medical care,a whack of money every week,maybe if it is possible a one way ticket to where they have come from is the solution?
Is that with high heels?
Saudi,s have exploited the labour of developing countries(Bangladesh,India etc) and forced them to live in sub human conditions all for their benefit.
What is their attitude towards poorer Arab countries.
Why do Pakistani's and Indians look down on people who come from a different sect/caste?
A white male going to their country(non-white) will hardly end up with a house,free medical care,a whack of money every week,maybe if it is possible a one way ticket to where they have come from is the solution?
Are you familiar with the concept of 'Whataboutery' Pa?
Your last post is a classic example. It's complete irrelevance serves only to demonstrate your lack of understanding of the concept being discussed.
Your last post is a classic example. It's complete irrelevance serves only to demonstrate your lack of understanding of the concept being discussed.
Well you seem to think "all women and all male non whites are victims of white males"
It is rubbish.
To think it has gravitas when in reality it is a by product of exploitation of those only interested in cheap labour,selling of arms,oil.
Luvvie rubbish used to only deflect from goverment policy and big business, sidetracking always a forte, absolute tripe from the "comedian" Brendan,have they anything else important to worry about?
It is rubbish.
To think it has gravitas when in reality it is a by product of exploitation of those only interested in cheap labour,selling of arms,oil.
Luvvie rubbish used to only deflect from goverment policy and big business, sidetracking always a forte, absolute tripe from the "comedian" Brendan,have they anything else important to worry about?
Have a good read, Pa;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
Come back to me, once you have actually understand what it is we are talking about, and explain to me that a well established concept is in fact 'rubbish'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
Come back to me, once you have actually understand what it is we are talking about, and explain to me that a well established concept is in fact 'rubbish'.
I can't be bothered with the "googling" Ozy, i know plenty of "white males" who were far from priviliged and went out to feed families for a basic wage and keep a roof over their heads, that is reality not "google" theory.
whilst you are busy reading and coming up to speed, I will note in passing, that one of the things that distinguishes the well- educated from the less educated, is the ability to discuss and query concepts or theories in abstraction or from perspectives other than their own.
Pa, for example, can only envisage societal distortion through his own personal, prism of angst. Everything inevitably relates back to his own self, and his own particular, limited vantage point in life.
One returns to the maxim: Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People (themselves).
Pa, for example, can only envisage societal distortion through his own personal, prism of angst. Everything inevitably relates back to his own self, and his own particular, limited vantage point in life.
One returns to the maxim: Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People (themselves).
No, Pa, don't bothering googling in order to understand the concept being discussed. That would mark you down as intelligent!
just blather on! Why bother learning or bettering your understanding in order to make relevant contributions.
#simpleton
just blather on! Why bother learning or bettering your understanding in order to make relevant contributions.
#simpleton
i know plenty of "white males" who were far from priviliged
FFS....this has nothing to do with the concept of 'White Man's Prvelige'
you are a gobsh1te....I am out of here....
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FFS....this has nothing to do with the concept of 'White Man's Prvelige'
you are a gobsh1te....I am out of here....
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And what has "walking around as a black woman for a day" have?
You yourself deviated from the topic drastically so pot,kettle black and all that.
You yourself deviated from the topic drastically so pot,kettle black and all that.
"walking around as a black woman" was an attempt to illustrate just how difficult it is for some to understand the concept of "white privilege" form their own perspective, ie that of a white man.
And you call that a deviation from the topic
You also deride "white privilege" as a 'google theory', it signifcantly! predates google, and is not a google construct.
When you don't understand something, don't be afraid to a) admit it and b) research it. Curiosity is, in great and generous minds, the first passion and the last (Samuel Johnson).
And you call that a deviation from the topic
You also deride "white privilege" as a 'google theory', it signifcantly! predates google, and is not a google construct.
When you don't understand something, don't be afraid to a) admit it and b) research it. Curiosity is, in great and generous minds, the first passion and the last (Samuel Johnson).
Ozy, you fail to see that it is the colour of your skin that you are talking about , the words White Privilege could just as easily be termed Black ,or Brown ,or simply coloured privilege. Its the classic liberal knocking of Whites. People who have heard this tripe for years are now having a good laugh, would you consider ,lets say for instance ,Will Smith a Black privileged person ?
Please do us all a favour, and do not involve yourself in a conversation that requires the capacity to think. One moron on the thread is adequate, we do not require an another.
Researched.
"White Male privilege" = a buzzphrase used by whineing liberal feminnazis.
No substance really as;
All UK
An 18 year old woman is 35% more likely than an 18 year old man.
37% of black school leavers go on to university against only 28% of white school leavers
Women from the age of 22 to 29 earn £1111 more per annum than men.
Just a term used by the Marie Antoinettes,while they deride you and laugh in your face,they(women) haven't it bad at all, though they have historically moved on from what constituted a normal life as a home maker.
Dolled up as " White Male Privilege" but in reality it is loathing for the white working class,who incidently aren't liberal,snowflakes and who having taken the rubbish long enough dished out to them are realising what a big bag of sheet they spewed and are continuing to do so.
Times are amoving Oz,the world is waking up.
"White Male privilege" = a buzzphrase used by whineing liberal feminnazis.
No substance really as;
All UK
An 18 year old woman is 35% more likely than an 18 year old man.
37% of black school leavers go on to university against only 28% of white school leavers
Women from the age of 22 to 29 earn £1111 more per annum than men.
Just a term used by the Marie Antoinettes,while they deride you and laugh in your face,they(women) haven't it bad at all, though they have historically moved on from what constituted a normal life as a home maker.
Dolled up as " White Male Privilege" but in reality it is loathing for the white working class,who incidently aren't liberal,snowflakes and who having taken the rubbish long enough dished out to them are realising what a big bag of sheet they spewed and are continuing to do so.
Times are amoving Oz,the world is waking up.
You fail to grasp the concept. Simple concepts to some, may be beyond others grasp.....this may help.....
Gina Crosley-Corcoran in her Huffington Post article, "Explaining White Privilege to a Broke White Person", says that she was initially hostile to the idea that she had white privilege, initially believing "my white skin didn't do **** to prevent me from experiencing poverty", until she was directed to read Peggy McIntosh's "Unpacking the invisible knapsack". According to Crosley-Corcoran, "the concept of intersectionality recognizes that people can be privileged in some ways and definitely not privileged in others." [11] Other writers have noted that the "academic-sounding concept of white privilege" sometimes elicits defensiveness and misunderstanding among white people, in part due to the rapidity in which the concept of white privilege was rapidly brought into the mainstream spotlight through social media campaigns such as Black Lives Matter.[12] Cory Weinburg, writing for Inside Higher Ed, has stated that the concept of white privilege is frequently misinterpreted by non-academics because it is an academic concept that has been recently been brought into the mainstream. Academics interviewed by Weinburg, who have been otherwise studying white privilege undisturbed for decades, have been taken aback with the seemingly-sudden hostility from right-wing critics since 2014
Gina Crosley-Corcoran in her Huffington Post article, "Explaining White Privilege to a Broke White Person", says that she was initially hostile to the idea that she had white privilege, initially believing "my white skin didn't do **** to prevent me from experiencing poverty", until she was directed to read Peggy McIntosh's "Unpacking the invisible knapsack". According to Crosley-Corcoran, "the concept of intersectionality recognizes that people can be privileged in some ways and definitely not privileged in others." [11] Other writers have noted that the "academic-sounding concept of white privilege" sometimes elicits defensiveness and misunderstanding among white people, in part due to the rapidity in which the concept of white privilege was rapidly brought into the mainstream spotlight through social media campaigns such as Black Lives Matter.[12] Cory Weinburg, writing for Inside Higher Ed, has stated that the concept of white privilege is frequently misinterpreted by non-academics because it is an academic concept that has been recently been brought into the mainstream. Academics interviewed by Weinburg, who have been otherwise studying white privilege undisturbed for decades, have been taken aback with the seemingly-sudden hostility from right-wing critics since 2014
Pa, Ozy and his ilk are been found out every minute it seems,hence the recent election results.He loves using words that he feels sound good and make him sound intelligent ,fails time after time to understand what they mean, the WHITE privilege been a classic. He starting to sound more sheep like by the day , doubt he has a valid opinion on anything ,unless of course he can google something that sounds real ,a manikin comes to mind, he looks the part but theres no substance .
Fierce "googling"
What privilege does a white binman have?
To take away the whining liberal feminazis rubbish?
Don't want examples from the "google" it is just a liberal buzz phrase.
White privilege doesn't apply in council housing,medical cards etc where it seems almost the complete opposite.
What privilege does a white binman have?
To take away the whining liberal feminazis rubbish?
Don't want examples from the "google" it is just a liberal buzz phrase.
White privilege doesn't apply in council housing,medical cards etc where it seems almost the complete opposite.
It does if your one of Ozys lot though Pa. The guy would have us believe we were the cause of just about everything bad that's ever happened in the world,its all the whitemans fault brother!
Adding supportive data or comment from alternative sources via google is a time efficient means to provide established research and factual data to support a viewpoint.
A staple approach of anyone who has been educated to post graduate level.
Perhaps that is why is seems to intimidate some on here, who simply prefer, groundlessly shooting from the lip!?!
A staple approach of anyone who has been educated to post graduate level.
Perhaps that is why is seems to intimidate some on here, who simply prefer, groundlessly shooting from the lip!?!
* alternative, legitimate, learned sources, I should add!
Erra shurra begorrah, give yourself a few stars there biy.
We all agree Ozy, google is good,try a personal view the odd time ,it adds the human touch,and we won't knock you simply because its YOUR opinion not Googles .
google 'intersectionality' there Pa....it will save you from making irrelevant observations such as;
White privilege doesn't apply in council housing,medical cards etc where it seems almost the complete opposite.
White privilege doesn't apply in council housing,medical cards etc where it seems almost the complete opposite.
Oh dear,you haven't said anything yourself,only what you googled.Your inability to see any point is truly staggering.
But like the great liberal snowflake you are,admit nothing and deride everyone, you are a true great.
But like the great liberal snowflake you are,admit nothing and deride everyone, you are a true great.
Thank you, I can almost taste your sense of inferiority.
Ozymandius quoting his bible The Huffington Post.
I hate to break it to you but they have an agenda.
Once again Pa and Workrider get the reality,Ozymandius thinks he has the theory.
The American election taught Ozymandius nothing.
Its like the diversity officer in Penn State University ( not Villanova ) on a salary of over a hundred grand lecturing unemployed miners about their white privilege.
These diversity officers are nearly always black,the Iroquois never get a look in.
The white people that bang on about white privilege are the self loathers.
They are the ones clamouring for open borders,the ones that hate religion but have the soft spot for Islam
I hate to break it to you but they have an agenda.
Once again Pa and Workrider get the reality,Ozymandius thinks he has the theory.
The American election taught Ozymandius nothing.
Its like the diversity officer in Penn State University ( not Villanova ) on a salary of over a hundred grand lecturing unemployed miners about their white privilege.
These diversity officers are nearly always black,the Iroquois never get a look in.
The white people that bang on about white privilege are the self loathers.
They are the ones clamouring for open borders,the ones that hate religion but have the soft spot for Islam
the only group of people being persecuted in this country is the white, Irish male. In the midst of a huge homelessness crisis in this country, we suddenly have loads of free houses to give away to middle class Syrians and people from surrounding countries pretending to be from Syria. Meanwhile, our own poor citizens are left sleeping in the doorways of O'Connell Street and Henry Street. Charity begins at home. Many of these people would have worked and paid taxes in years gone by but have fallen on hard times. It is shameful to see the amount of homeless people sleeping rough in Dublin City. According to the Irish Examiner today, there will be 2,500 homeless children this Christmas. That is shameful for a first world country.
In light of this shameful treatment of our own people, mainly white Irish males, please spare us this crap about treatment of minority groups ozymandius. They are doing a lot better here than they would in most countries. Look @ Ibrahim Halawa, him and his father did nothing but give out about this country but I bet he would give his right arm to come back now after a spell in a so-called Muslim paradise.
In light of this shameful treatment of our own people, mainly white Irish males, please spare us this crap about treatment of minority groups ozymandius. They are doing a lot better here than they would in most countries. Look @ Ibrahim Halawa, him and his father did nothing but give out about this country but I bet he would give his right arm to come back now after a spell in a so-called Muslim paradise.
Well said Newapproach, if the bill for housing these people was stopped tomorrow, never mind the extras etc they get, the Country would be awash with money , funny we can magically provide housing at the drop of a hat for these people ,yet some IRISH children will be sleeping on the streets this Christmas, UAE,S.Arabia haven't taken in any , the reason been , they are spreading Islam into Europe on a grand scale ,and getting paid for the privilege into the bargain, as the Americans say its a win win situation for them.
I personally never once related this conversation to Ireland or benefits for minorities. I tend to think on a less parochial level.
Also 'White Privilege', the concept under discussion is more associated with broader societal privileges, not merely economic benefits.
2,500 "homeless" children in Dublin this Xmas. How many of these will have a roof over their heads and food in their belly.... as close to a 100% as is theoretically possible I would imagine. This sort of "Homelessness" is a million miles away from the concept of homelessness in hellholes like Aleppo. Charity may begin at home but it doesn't end at our national boundaries.
Also 'White Privilege', the concept under discussion is more associated with broader societal privileges, not merely economic benefits.
2,500 "homeless" children in Dublin this Xmas. How many of these will have a roof over their heads and food in their belly.... as close to a 100% as is theoretically possible I would imagine. This sort of "Homelessness" is a million miles away from the concept of homelessness in hellholes like Aleppo. Charity may begin at home but it doesn't end at our national boundaries.
UAE,S.Arabia haven't taken in any
This is such a nonsense whataboutery argument. It's either the right thing to do or it isn't. Why make the benchmark the behaviour of a society that you (or I ) do not approve of? Surely we are better than that and should apply our own standards?
This is such a nonsense whataboutery argument. It's either the right thing to do or it isn't. Why make the benchmark the behaviour of a society that you (or I ) do not approve of? Surely we are better than that and should apply our own standards?
maybe alison o'connor has decided to do what media people in america are doing............namely adopt a position on the left "male white priviledge" or on the right like katie hopkins has in the Uk and make lots of dough........it got me talking by posting on here........it has other people no doubt talking on other forums..........media outlets will take note and mrs o'connor will get more appointments............katie hopkins is making a nice living........Sean hannity a right wing radio and fox news guy earned 25 million last year.........he is an absolute clown..........but look at the money he is making.
turn on CNN any night from 1am to 4am and there is a whole panel of far left guys trotting out nonsense........there were 200 nazis in america chanting hail donald trump and we are being told america will be a fascist country.......they have spoken non stop about it for days.
turn on CNN any night from 1am to 4am and there is a whole panel of far left guys trotting out nonsense........there were 200 nazis in america chanting hail donald trump and we are being told america will be a fascist country.......they have spoken non stop about it for days.
BDJ has hit the nail on the head... AOC like Una Mulally, like Katie Hopkins, Like Hannity are trolls who like 99% of media hacks today are self serving and only too happy to look after No. 1. They don't believe a word of what they say....they do it as "clickbait" to raise their profiles.
The easiest way to spot these trolls is to listen to them. No one with even the vaguest intelligence would come out with the garbage they do whether they be left or right wing....
The late Christopher Hitchens had the Clintons rumbled years ago.
Proper journalism takes time, tenacity and extremely hard work. The time part of that means that anyone getting their news from "Daily" sources like IT, Indo, Journal.ie etc.... are wasting their own time. Proper well researched, accurate articles take time and hard investigative work. This is why they Irish media is full of "Champagne socialist opinion pieces", clickbait and SJW rantings....
I cannot think of a single proper impartial successful Irish Journalist. They are an absolute disgrace to their profession.
I begun recently watching the US docu-series Frontline. Its an incredible series which shows the potential of a fair and impartial media.
Cutting Edge is another example of the cheap(quality wise), useless "public service" coverage of current affairs RTE provides
The easiest way to spot these trolls is to listen to them. No one with even the vaguest intelligence would come out with the garbage they do whether they be left or right wing....
The late Christopher Hitchens had the Clintons rumbled years ago.
Proper journalism takes time, tenacity and extremely hard work. The time part of that means that anyone getting their news from "Daily" sources like IT, Indo, Journal.ie etc.... are wasting their own time. Proper well researched, accurate articles take time and hard investigative work. This is why they Irish media is full of "Champagne socialist opinion pieces", clickbait and SJW rantings....
I cannot think of a single proper impartial successful Irish Journalist. They are an absolute disgrace to their profession.
I begun recently watching the US docu-series Frontline. Its an incredible series which shows the potential of a fair and impartial media.
Cutting Edge is another example of the cheap(quality wise), useless "public service" coverage of current affairs RTE provides
the liberal V conservative narrative is now taking hold in ireland and the UK.............lets pin a set of ideals to each label, have articles in newspapers and discussions on radio and TV non stop from members of each team and whip up chit chat on social media so we all tune in to see the dog fight take place..........
a hardcore group of people in america have been making millions for years with this stuff.........no one on fox news gets out of bed for less than 50k a week.........there are guys all over america making fortunes on the radio.......they are all on premier league level salaries........"conservative" guys make all the money on TV and radio.........but the "liberals" seem to be in charge on the internet.......tune in to the young turks on you tube.........dont know how much they are making but they seem to be going places.........everything they say is the total opposite of what fox news says.
i have time on my hands these days so i do tune in now and again, but i dont take it seriously.........i wasnt expecting this nonsense to creep into irish media so soon............untill i heard "male white priviledge", the other night
a hardcore group of people in america have been making millions for years with this stuff.........no one on fox news gets out of bed for less than 50k a week.........there are guys all over america making fortunes on the radio.......they are all on premier league level salaries........"conservative" guys make all the money on TV and radio.........but the "liberals" seem to be in charge on the internet.......tune in to the young turks on you tube.........dont know how much they are making but they seem to be going places.........everything they say is the total opposite of what fox news says.
i have time on my hands these days so i do tune in now and again, but i dont take it seriously.........i wasnt expecting this nonsense to creep into irish media so soon............untill i heard "male white priviledge", the other night
The object of life is twofold imo, Knowledge and trying to understand ourselves and were we came from is one.Understanding is the other , now they might sound similar ,but there is a world of difference .Knowledge is a gathering of facts and figures . Understanding is been able to FEEL the knowledge , I think they had Ozy in mind when they ran that add,you know the quiz one, where they ask a couple of people questions i.e. general knowledge ,and one of them pops outside to google the answer. 
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