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Rocketfingers
06 Feb 16 11:24
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Get with the times lads, Dromod wanted to make a few bob to help their underage teams, the demand is such for the beautiful game they would have held it some other place, nice that this will be highlighted but i suppose when crowds are down at the GAA's main events they need make money some place shame it is in this form.

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By:
freddiek
When: 06 Feb 16 12:30
you forget the generosity the GAA showed to the other inferior sports organisations in this country when they had no home to play in and saved them having to go across the water.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 13:20
Have to say  read the story, Rock, and was disgusted.  Was almost gong to start a thread.

What a bigoted bunch of backward, insular b@stards.  Let the young lads get out there and play sport. Any sport.  It is supposed to be a community facilty.
By:
kavvie
When: 06 Feb 16 13:52
im a gaa man and im ashamed of this...puzzling really
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 14:00
Dromard wanted to have their cake and eat it. They are receiving massive grants from the GAA every year and possibly received money to build this facility but they also want to rent it out to promote rival sports which will take away youngsters from playing GAA. They can't have it both ways.
By:
freddiek
When: 06 Feb 16 14:06
talking of insular, what about all the fee-paying schools around the country for the posh-boys kids where the only show in town is rugby and gaelic sports are not even promoted?? I think thats a better definition of insular.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 14:12
Its very sad that an amateur sporting organisation sees other sports as 'rivals'.  And wants to hinder kids participating in other sports.  It's a shameful practice and utterly indefensible.
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 14:15
It's the reality with all sports. Kids can only play so many sports and will eventually focus on one sport as they get older. Soccer is only sport I have come across which actively tells kids not to play other sports in the run up to big matches and tournaments.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 14:26
Naturally enough, clubs will say..come on and play gaa or soccer or whatever....but when a Central Committe enshrines and institutionalises this prejudice and forcefully denies (paid) usegae of their facilities to young lads just looking to kick a ball in a rural area, deprived of alternative facilities....its a discriminatory hoisting of the drawbridge, morally wrong and detrimental to the community at large.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 14:43
Crazy stuff but I heard the organisers of the Jamie Carragher soccer school will foot some of the fine.......I reckon this will go no further.

A good chance for the soccer clubs to step in and host these camps........step up to the plate lads.
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 14:47
I enjoy both sports and have no bias towards or against either sport. Just because the FAI couldn't get their house in order over the last 30 or 40 years does not mean the GAA are obliged to provide them with facilities. Delaney is paid 400k a year plenty other officials paid big money, this would be better spent providing facilities across the country. The GAA has always been well organised and provided excellent facilites to supporters and players throughout it's history. Soccer should follow suit and not be relying on charity from other organisations.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 14:50
Don't resort to a 'whataboutery' defence.

Even died in the wool GAA lads like Gant and Kavvie are embarrassed about this situation.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 14:51
Rocketfingers and crew, it's time to shake off the tag of the "Percecuted Minority".
Did the LOI not sign a big live pictures deal for this season, spread a little of the wealth back to the youngsters.
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 15:02
My defence of the GAA is this instance is very clear. If this club are receiving grants and funding from the GAA. they shouldn't be using it to promote other sports. It should be used to promote our national games. Longford is hardly a stronghold for hurling, why didn't they run a hurling camp instead of teaching kids to play other sports.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:06
New Approach......It was a Jamie Carragher soccer camp.....the kids pay a fee. The club probably got a few quid for use of the facilities.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:07
Jaysus.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:09
Exactly Ozymandius......mountain/molehill stuff.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:11
Au contraire....tellingly demnonstrative of the badness at the very core of the organisation
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:15
The kids got their soccer camp and the fine will be paid or waived.........end of.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:18
There is no getting away from the fact that the powers that be have sent a message.  And it stinks.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:20
Maybe the FAI might get the bigger message.....I doubt it.
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 15:21
It does send a message and a very strong one. It is part of the ethos of the GAA to promote gaelic sports as they are our national games. GAA clubs shouldn't be prioritising short term financial gain over the long term health of our national games

If the GAA are giving out grants and funding to a club, it is not unreasonable that the club should only promote GAA imo. The FAI do not give out money to soccer clubs so that the facilities are used for other sports.

Whether we like it or not, there is intense competition between various sports to get kids playing their sport. Rugby has benefited from this in recent years with the success of Munster and to a lesser extent, Ireland. I wouldn't expect rugby clubs to allow football or hurling to be played on their pitches. It is up to the individual sports to be able to provide facilities to play their sport.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:24
I doubt we will ever see the day when GAA and Rugby go cap in hand to the Soccer boys for facilities.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:25
You are wasted in these enlightened times, newapproach.

The Dark Ages would have suited you much better.  The days when people didn't stray much from their village.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:27
Thank God the bigger sports have moved on. Ozy, what happened your boys?.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:35
Not sure who you are referring to tbh?
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:38
I will leave it be.
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 15:38
I'm a very progressive ozy as long as the change is for the better. Too many times do we see various interest groups call for change just for the sake of change and not caring whether it will make things better or worse. Sometimes things should be left the way they are rather than just making change for the sake of it.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:45
You are allergic to change!  And positively dismissive of people making their own choices; whether it's about the contents of their womb, or children looking to play anther sport.

Its a defensive cirlce-the-wagons drwawbridge mentality; stick with the stats quo, retreat from Europe, return to a Theocracy, end free trade etc etc.  Just when we need to be outward facing to compete in a globalised world.
By:
kincsem
When: 06 Feb 16 15:48
The GAA decides Gaelic football is "our national game"?  They didn't ask for opinions.
I vote soccer as the national games.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:50
Ozy, the kids probably enjoyed the soccer camp.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 15:54
Of course they did.  What on earth are you on about? f00k off if you have to resort to  talking in riddles!
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 15:56
I actually blame the E.U. for the mess.
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 15:59
I play soccer myself, played a variety of sports myself as a child and would never stop any child playing any sport they want. Th issue I have here is that the GAA are expected to provide the facilities on which all sports are to be played. That is unfair.

It was the politicians, and ordinary people of Ireland, that chose hurling should be our national sport. De Valera was a rugby man but even he realised the importance of GAA to this country.

I'm a big believer in free trade. I believe in free market economics. I think the E.U. worked better when it was solely focusing on maintaining peace and furthering economic development rather than expanding their empire and creating war in Ukraine.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 16:10
Th issue I have here is that the GAA are expected to provide the facilities on which all sports are to be played.

That isn't the issue.  And you know it.

If the facilities are there, in a rural area, and not being used by the GAA at the time...why not let kids use them to play the sport of their choice.  And they are even prepared to play for the privelige!

We are a small, sparsely located, rural country with poor sporting facilities.  We need to cooperate not discriminate.

The issue here is that a central Committeee have deliberated and made a judgement that institutionalises backward insular bigotry.  They need to grow up.
By:
kavvie
When: 06 Feb 16 16:10
it seems there was a bit of jockying for position here.more to it than meets the eye.not at liberty to say at the moment.watch this space
By:
newapproach
When: 06 Feb 16 16:33
The GAA have provided excellent facilities all over the country and that is why they are the most popular sports. Other sporting organisations chose to only focus on Dublin for many, many years and suffered because of that.

I don't know the geography of Longford and I doubt you do either. We don't know whether there is another soccer pitch in the area or how close the nearest one is.

I have never seen rugby, soccer or any other clubs offer their facilites to any other sports and there is no reason why the GAA should be expected to. As Freddiek points out above, the only example I can think of is Croke Park being opened up to stop Irish fans having to travel abroad to watch their national teams.

The issue pf payment is a shot term financial gain for te gaa club. They should be using their facilities to encourage children to play gaelic games rather than generating a few bob which will probably go into the senior team mangers back pocket. There are GAA clubs renting out astro turf pitches all over the country to soccer clubs to generate money and the revenue raised is being pissed away rather than using it to develop gaelic games.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 16:38
The kids came from 7/8 different counties, it was very well organised. Jamie Carragher even turned up on one of the days. It wasn't a little rural club kick about.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 06 Feb 16 16:43
Civillsed countries have municipal stadia that are shared.  A common sense approach that works and makes best use of limited resources

We are anchored in the past.  Small minded backwardness, the type of civil war thinking and divisions that define our equally pathetic political parties.

The GAA has always been defined by its insular, defensive approach to minorities and those that choose to play other sports. As an organisation it needs to recognise times have changed and it needs to grow up.
By:
GANT007
When: 06 Feb 16 16:52
The soccer boys had buckets of cash here in the good times but where did it all go. Poor calls and then the poor mouth.

Hard to feel sorry for self styled Persecuted Minorities. Then begrudgery is one of our favourite passtimes.
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