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12.50 Tocororo looks as if she can win this after her recent run in very competitive race @ Leop were she ran on well late to take 4th.
1.20 Myztique is due a win and is very consistant at this level , sure to stay the trip and with Barry aboard I cansee them making this a stiff test for the Byrnes mare, who looks as if she will also enjoy the step up in trip , Myztiques experience over timber tipping the scales in her favour ..
2.30 BND has been costly for me, I thought this lad was going to go right to the top , he has proved a long way from that , tomorrow offers him a real chance of getting back to winning ways though. Several of these are capable of winning this, BND has the assistance of young Kenneddy claim to help .
2.50. McKinley is not everyones cup of tea, but he is well worth a bet here , he keeps a little back for himself no doubt of it, but on his day and with a run under his belt is worth the Nap.Alisier was a very good horse a while back and I'd expect him to give the selection most to do...
1.20 Myztique is due a win and is very consistant at this level , sure to stay the trip and with Barry aboard I cansee them making this a stiff test for the Byrnes mare, who looks as if she will also enjoy the step up in trip , Myztiques experience over timber tipping the scales in her favour ..
2.30 BND has been costly for me, I thought this lad was going to go right to the top , he has proved a long way from that , tomorrow offers him a real chance of getting back to winning ways though. Several of these are capable of winning this, BND has the assistance of young Kenneddy claim to help .
2.50. McKinley is not everyones cup of tea, but he is well worth a bet here , he keeps a little back for himself no doubt of it, but on his day and with a run under his belt is worth the Nap.Alisier was a very good horse a while back and I'd expect him to give the selection most to do...
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the mares race looks decent wr not sure I,ll have a bet but mate of mine was @Carlisle when the Crawford mare won a bumper he liked her a lot,if im going to back any it,ll be PEOPLES PARK 3.20 @11/4 I was on lto hope to recoup ...
Cheers wonks, so that's fav, fav, fav followed be an even money fav who's main danger is the second fav, intriguing stuff.
McKinley is useless save your dosh.
McKinley is useless save your dosh.
chealts..can you just pass a opinion on the chances of the horses not trying to score points..if they win he wont care?
Another one for ya with Shannak 1.50 CR(put on Punchestown earlier as thought it will be shorter), GL Tony/WR on a go through the card attempt.
Well when wonks does that then I'll do the same, he got offended when i gave an opinion on Derek o Connor earlier
Neddie is what is commonly known as a lurker, sits behind his computer screen all day lurking on people, strangers and people he half knows on Facebook etc, occasionally commenting but more often than not just creeping like the little creep he is, a sad existence all told.
Cr you did in fairness slag Workrider for putting up favs(he usually doesn't),plenty of favs were put up here recently and not a peep out of you, not a lot of consistency is there? I agree though you have a point concerning McKinley though won't be laying it either.
Here we go again , Chelt trying to ruin Another racing thread, I think its best we just ignore the bloke.
cheltenhambores sister has turfed him out of bed by looks of things!
gotta laugh at the hypocrisy of the guy tho labelling others creeps,stalkers etc 
Workrider putting up favourites is not usual but understandable.
I don't have the stats but it seems around 70% at the moment.
I'm even making money.
I don't have the stats but it seems around 70% at the moment.
I'm even making money.
Looks like tocororo & swamp fox are going to be backed to the exclusion of everything else in the first tomorrow.
It's an Irish maiden hurdle how many were you expecting to be backed ?????
Billy Billy will take the world of beating in the second. Not surprised she has attracted the early money (albeit the quantum of same will be small).
Just a harmless oul dig pa he's well able to give as well as take it,
Ps think I'll give up on portrait King after today (cliff horse)
Ps think I'll give up on portrait King after today (cliff horse)
Two E/W shots for me today.
Another Challenge @ 14/1 will love the ground and drop in trip should suit. It is not a great race and this 3 time heavy ground winner has to be respected. I can see his price shortening.
The Dan Moore is a trickey race but I like the consistant Days Hotel @ 10/1. Only two times out of the prizemoney from 18 runs over fences. Two solid runs over this season in Graded races and 10lb lower than his best winning mark. He is 11 years old but I think this race has been mapped out for him. I rate Mozoltov a big danger if he jumps soundly.
Another Challenge @ 14/1 will love the ground and drop in trip should suit. It is not a great race and this 3 time heavy ground winner has to be respected. I can see his price shortening.
The Dan Moore is a trickey race but I like the consistant Days Hotel @ 10/1. Only two times out of the prizemoney from 18 runs over fences. Two solid runs over this season in Graded races and 10lb lower than his best winning mark. He is 11 years old but I think this race has been mapped out for him. I rate Mozoltov a big danger if he jumps soundly.
2.20 Fairyhouse - Guitar Pete EW 10/1
Dual Grade 1 winner over hurdles who hasn't done much wrong so far over fences, Think he's been running over trips a touch too far for him but this would have given him more time in his races to get organized & learn to jump at a racing pace. Has no weight here and can't see the trip being anything but a positive for him given at 2m /2m1f his record is 10 runs 5 wins 3 places although the ground could be a concern as he does seem best on top of the ground. Nina a interesting booking as it the application of a tongue tie.
3.20 Faityhouse - Marlbrook Win 3/1
Chequered career so far but does possess ability and will have no problems with the going. Jumped well enough lto but ran into one in Noble Endeavour who also had the benefit of a 5lb claimer riding. A good round of jumping would be ample enough to win this contest.
Never Enough Time in the 2.50 also worth a small ew punt.
GL to anyone playing today.
Dual Grade 1 winner over hurdles who hasn't done much wrong so far over fences, Think he's been running over trips a touch too far for him but this would have given him more time in his races to get organized & learn to jump at a racing pace. Has no weight here and can't see the trip being anything but a positive for him given at 2m /2m1f his record is 10 runs 5 wins 3 places although the ground could be a concern as he does seem best on top of the ground. Nina a interesting booking as it the application of a tongue tie.
3.20 Faityhouse - Marlbrook Win 3/1
Chequered career so far but does possess ability and will have no problems with the going. Jumped well enough lto but ran into one in Noble Endeavour who also had the benefit of a 5lb claimer riding. A good round of jumping would be ample enough to win this contest.
Never Enough Time in the 2.50 also worth a small ew punt.
GL to anyone playing today.
Starting to look a bit like that CR,still ran a decent races after a few sloppy jumps. Form on heavy but think better ground suits myself,can't figure why the more often than not hold up tactics as think he is better near the front.
Probably the Eider again next.
Probably the Eider again next.
Jan 9, 2016 -- 11:59PM, TellTheKing wrote:
Billy Billy will take the world of beating in the second. Not surprised she has attracted the early money (albeit the quantum of same will be small).
A watching race for sure........ a bit worried about the yard at present........ and far too many questions need to be answered..... The slower they go Ceylon could easily have too much speed e.t.c...........
Rather be backing the Byrnes horse at 7.8 & Concience looked well enough although you'd be guessing about how it goes on the ground, 220 on here for buttons could be a quick trade.
Oh and jack Slade expected to run a big race allegedly in the 1.50.
Guessing gambling....... with not enough form to go on...... Only one winner........ TTK..... surprised with that guessing comment...... 3.5>5.6.... That yard is not to be followed at the moment ....
Simples. Elliot's mare looked opposable at the price and Byrnes mare had a far harder race than Crawford's in winning their bumper (plus an extra week off since). I was also aware that she is well able to jump (and indeed her jumping was fluent during the race). Couldn't have had anything else in the race. As it happens the drift helped as it allowed me to cover most of the win stake with a place bet.
As for the yard form don't see that as a concern. A small sample but everything they've ran that returned under 20/1 in the past fortnight has performed respectively and December was a good month for them from what I recall.
As for the yard form don't see that as a concern. A small sample but everything they've ran that returned under 20/1 in the past fortnight has performed respectively and December was a good month for them from what I recall.
A world of beating......... comments like that is very dodgy......... To me it looks like you use those words to get mugs to back it on here so you can hedge.......... A very suspect comment with so little to go on......
A world of beating.......... ah sure I will go in again in the place market......... But say nothing to the mugs who you told to back win.... AFTER-TIMING....... to the core
A world of beating.......... ah sure I will go in again in the place market......... But say nothing to the mugs who you told to back win.... AFTER-TIMING....... to the core
Easy I think you grossly overestimate the effect of what is said on here. I am sorry that say that neither I nor you have the power to move markets based on forum comments. I would say approximately .5% at the most of the bettors in that race read the forum for a start.
Was it not you that said there's nothing wrong with backing each way in 15 runner handicaps when you can't see them out of the frame? Logically the same would apply even more so in a maiden hurdle where the majority are dead before the race starts. The market moved in the opposite direction to what I expected and I reacted accordingly. I'm sure an expert such as yourself has encountered similar scenarios previously.
Was it not you that said there's nothing wrong with backing each way in 15 runner handicaps when you can't see them out of the frame? Logically the same would apply even more so in a maiden hurdle where the majority are dead before the race starts. The market moved in the opposite direction to what I expected and I reacted accordingly. I'm sure an expert such as yourself has encountered similar scenarios previously.
Gobber now thinks forum comments are moving markets LoL
No crap this year..... if I do come on.... it will be hard comments......... Changing markets........ if I come on here with a selection I can guarantee you many will back the horse........ the same goes for Giggilo,Roger Be Bris,Studious1 e.t.c....... respected people at this game. And yourself TTK, it`s obvious you study the game and have the respect on the forum......
Calit.... it`s poor from you..... Losing what is that about...... I don`t do this game to lose if I lost at this job I wouldn`t do it.....
Calit.... it`s poor from you..... Losing what is that about...... I don`t do this game to lose if I lost at this job I wouldn`t do it.....
More mindboggling inconsistencies from easygold.Telling someone to keep his bets to himself!!
Also accuses TTK of aftertiming when the vast majority of his posts are aftertiming!
Just to compound the issue he makes no mention of his pre race fancy Ceylon?Did they go too fast for it???Any sympathies for those who hang on your every word and backed Ceylon because you gave it a positive mention?
Also accuses TTK of aftertiming when the vast majority of his posts are aftertiming!
Just to compound the issue he makes no mention of his pre race fancy Ceylon?Did they go too fast for it???Any sympathies for those who hang on your every word and backed Ceylon because you gave it a positive mention?
Tolmi...... what the hell are you on about..... a right bee in your bonnet you and DJ are some double act......... Ceylon??? if u read the whole thread you might have some credit...... FFS. A watching race for sure.... now you tell me what that means..... to me it means money stays away from the race.....
When will you start a thread?..... go wan it`s easily done......... go wan you can do it....
Cracking opening post Workrider and with Gutfeelings couple made it a good attempt of going through the card,fair play.
Well done workrider. I thought the inner circle said you were clueless....
If Ceylon had won you would be the first to point to your mention of her at 13.06.
I notice you didn't address my mention of aftertiming...I wonder why??
The vast majority of threads that you start are ones criticizing jockeys when a race hasn't panned out the way you thought it should or worse still falling back to the old red herring of accusations of underhand activity.You should remember that as often as you will be the victim of poor jockeyship you will be the beneficiary of it when you back a winner when other jockeys in the race mess up.It is a common trait so you shouldn't worry about it too much but most successful punters recognise that over a lifetime of punting these things even out.
I have no doubt but that you put in the work and very possibly are a winning punter but your posts here are littered with inconsistencies whereby you criticize punters for doing something yet its something you have done yourself.
Your constant aftertiming when you claim you have got it right is grating.Equally your anger with a loser is palpable.
However what I find most irritating is your presumption that only your analysis is correct as is your belittling(normally post race) of alternative views.You should remember you don't have a monopoly on how to make profit.
I notice you didn't address my mention of aftertiming...I wonder why??
The vast majority of threads that you start are ones criticizing jockeys when a race hasn't panned out the way you thought it should or worse still falling back to the old red herring of accusations of underhand activity.You should remember that as often as you will be the victim of poor jockeyship you will be the beneficiary of it when you back a winner when other jockeys in the race mess up.It is a common trait so you shouldn't worry about it too much but most successful punters recognise that over a lifetime of punting these things even out.
I have no doubt but that you put in the work and very possibly are a winning punter but your posts here are littered with inconsistencies whereby you criticize punters for doing something yet its something you have done yourself.
Your constant aftertiming when you claim you have got it right is grating.Equally your anger with a loser is palpable.
However what I find most irritating is your presumption that only your analysis is correct as is your belittling(normally post race) of alternative views.You should remember you don't have a monopoly on how to make profit.
Truly excellent post Tolmi. Sums up pretty much all the annoyances which stem from much of Easy's posts
If u read threads properly.... If I mention a rider on here it`s for a goddamn reason not always against them (SDS,O.Murphy,David Mullins are three that will vouch). I don`t worry about riders whatsoever, but if I see poor horsemanship from an experienced pilot I have commented for sure... so what???. Punters are not tolerated by riders and trainers,owners... Ask Ruby (I ride for the owner????)....... You can`t say anything about riders, they all cry away........ Fran Berry and Richard Hughes where the biggest babies..... along with Mr Paddy "I`m a champion jockey" Brennan. and I know better than you Mr G.Lee..... A sport you can`t speak your mind (that`s why presenters can`t say a word about U.K/Irish riders......... THAT`S A BIG NO NO........ But no problem for Mark "pork pies Johnston to talk about poor horsemansip about French Riders I wonder why????????
but again Ceylon was not a selection.... what is ur problem.... I commented about the race before hand where was ur comment... and why are you only picking out one piece of the puzzle?????? A proper annoying poster if ever......
When have u started a thread??????????
but again Ceylon was not a selection.... what is ur problem.... I commented about the race before hand where was ur comment... and why are you only picking out one piece of the puzzle?????? A proper annoying poster if ever......
When have u started a thread??????????
Jan 10, 2016 -- 4:09PM, TellTheKing wrote:
Truly excellent post Tolmi. Sums up pretty much all the annoyances which stem from much of Easy's posts
Annoyances???? u think I`m a fool............ what so called experienced punter would write "will take a lot of beating" about a horse that never jumped a hurdle in public against a horse that has jumped a hurdle with solid form.......... JUST WRONG..........
Jan 9, 2016 -- 7:57PM, pa lapsy wrote:
Another one for ya with Shannak 1.50 CR(put on Punchestown earlier as thought it will be shorter), GL Tony/WR on a go through the card attempt.
Yeah Pa, I was solid enough on this fellow, even though Dessie did his best to put everyone off the last day calling the wrong horse....
Well done Workrider....
I think the point Tolmi was making is that your threads on poor / dodgy rides (by far and away your most common contribution besides aftertiming) are utterly pointless regardless of the content of them.
How did that unraced bumper horse (the only horse I noted you posting about pre event) get on in Leopardstown by the way? Unraced horse mmmmmmm????? Guessing mmmmmm????? Experienced punter mmmmmm?????
How did that unraced bumper horse (the only horse I noted you posting about pre event) get on in Leopardstown by the way? Unraced horse mmmmmmm????? Guessing mmmmmm????? Experienced punter mmmmmm?????
Eh, did you not see the pun....... I have never selected a horse without previous form in that discipline on the day of the race..... Pylonthepressure is the only horse i MENTIONED this year without form..... that is more of one to follow in his career kind of selecting....
You know damn well..... where I`m coming from........ the way you go on..... this will win, world of beating....... and don`t let me bring up the Russian Bill thread again........ punting is not that easy the way you could across with your strong MR RIGHT approach...
You know damn well..... where I`m coming from........ the way you go on..... this will win, world of beating....... and don`t let me bring up the Russian Bill thread again........ punting is not that easy the way you could across with your strong MR RIGHT approach...
Thanks TTK.At least someone understands the points I was making even if easygold's bizarre, rambling and nearly indecipherable post at 16.13 shows my replies have gone over his head.
He then manages to emphasise my aftertiming point with his 16.25 post!!
As for starting threads I have on occasion done so in the past and will occasionally do so in the future.Is that OK with you?
He then manages to emphasise my aftertiming point with his 16.25 post!!
As for starting threads I have on occasion done so in the past and will occasionally do so in the future.Is that OK with you?
What was the bumper horse you would say would win for sure........ Dermot had one for that now didn`t he...... It`s not that simple now is it....
Tolmi...... are you for real.......... just listen to urself....... sit behind ur little screen..... reading and the odd occasion comment.... Thanks TTK....... jasus where is my bucket.......
Right bye bye now..... but I will be looking on for your Cheltenham selections.. but maybe not .....
My apologies if my screen is smaller than yours.It makes me feel inadequate.
I hold my hands up Easy. I fully expected Elliot's to draw that bumper up the North. Couldn't have been more wrong about it as the winner hosed up.
I express my views strongly because confidence in your punting is a prerequisite. No point being meek & iffy about things as there won't be many bookies that will lay you after the race.
I express my views strongly because confidence in your punting is a prerequisite. No point being meek & iffy about things as there won't be many bookies that will lay you after the race.
Yes that`s fine...... on here..... but we all know it`s not that easy...... THIS WILL WIN......... ffs ur better than that....
Jan 10, 2016 -- 5:10PM, easygold wrote:
Right bye bye now..... but I will be looking on for your Cheltenham selections.. but maybe not .....
Bye now.... apologies
Easy i find both Tolmi and TelltheKing reasonable fellas,i know if past threads were brought up i'd have some right howlers and more than a few.
I was surprised you were against Miztique all the same TelltheKing and while it is hard to quantify how much that gambling syndicate with the suppossed 250k loss at Limerick had a bearing on todays race,my feelings were it was a factor but to what degree i didn't know.
With BJG booked maybe they were looking for and got a "recovery mission" but that is only conjecture.
I was surprised you were against Miztique all the same TelltheKing and while it is hard to quantify how much that gambling syndicate with the suppossed 250k loss at Limerick had a bearing on todays race,my feelings were it was a factor but to what degree i didn't know.
With BJG booked maybe they were looking for and got a "recovery mission" but that is only conjecture.
Evening gents, I pop out for acouple of hours ,and mayhem breaks out . Missed the 13/8 in the first but was happy to take the 6/4 , a genuine mare imo, in the 2nd again missed the best price , there was a little 6/4 I took 11/8 , Barry held on as long as he could before sending her to the front and she ran on really well , she missed out the first in the back straight and dopped off them a little , and I was a little worried tbh but alls well that ends well, and you've guessed it I missed the best price on McKinley as well. He is a horse I wouldn't be rushing to back again, he was like a greyhound waiting in front, Cooper did well to coax him him home. A good day overall...
Pa she's had two looks over hurdles and she probably didn't step up much from bumper form in either. Didn't think she was the type to improve with racing either after I saw her in Limerick. In fairness she tougher it out very well today. I would normally stay away from Northern English form when returning to Ireland but Crawford's looked made to me for today's test. I also know that she was expected to give it a far better rattle (though this didn't really impact my thinking as I wanted to be with her in any event).
Well done on your winners WR.
Well done on your winners WR.
Don't think it's quite mayhem workrider!
Congratulations on your good day.For what it's worth I thought Swamp Fire's maiden first time out over hurdles was a terrible race and I couldn't believe it started so short.Interestingly a feature of these 4 year old maidens is that the O Brien runners seem to bely market weakness to run very well on their debuts.
However I called the second race wrong.I thought Mystique was plenty short against a few credible opponents even if the Byrnes horse was noticeably weak in the market.
The handicap hurdle was a poor race but the winter could go in again depending on his rise.Nearly Namad was probably an improver against some badly exposed types and I don't think Mc Kinley is up to much.
Congratulations on your good day.For what it's worth I thought Swamp Fire's maiden first time out over hurdles was a terrible race and I couldn't believe it started so short.Interestingly a feature of these 4 year old maidens is that the O Brien runners seem to bely market weakness to run very well on their debuts.
However I called the second race wrong.I thought Mystique was plenty short against a few credible opponents even if the Byrnes horse was noticeably weak in the market.
The handicap hurdle was a poor race but the winter could go in again depending on his rise.Nearly Namad was probably an improver against some badly exposed types and I don't think Mc Kinley is up to much.
Well done Gut and Pa , we should have cleaned them out....
That Workrider gets away with murder,he puts up his thoughts the night before and sticks up Bright New Dawn which got beaten,how many Yankees did that horse wreck.
I know he put up three odds against winners,average each at 6/4 but we must concentrate on the one beast that lost.
No booms so you know there is a Pa Lapsy winner somewhere.
Shannak was the winner and it showed the two sides to Pa Lapsy,his ability to unearth winners and his reading of the market,he spotted the price rick,told us all 3/1 was way to big.
My first reaction was wouldn't touch 3/1 about a Tony Mullins trained horse ( debatable) but once again horse being backed off boards wins handicap.
I know he put up three odds against winners,average each at 6/4 but we must concentrate on the one beast that lost.
No booms so you know there is a Pa Lapsy winner somewhere.
Shannak was the winner and it showed the two sides to Pa Lapsy,his ability to unearth winners and his reading of the market,he spotted the price rick,told us all 3/1 was way to big.
My first reaction was wouldn't touch 3/1 about a Tony Mullins trained horse ( debatable) but once again horse being backed off boards wins handicap.
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