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11 May 15 11:16
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A successful pop group that had a huge turnover of members.
Big in the fifties,revived in the seventies their most famous member was the recently deceased Ben E King.

One of their last hits was Sister and Brother relevant now especially in regards the fluffy oft used defence of " if two people love each other "

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By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 11:35
Is this the Offician first Quuuuuuaaaarrrr thread of the week?  Clocked in at 11.16 AM Monday morning.  (delayed by late night at the Golf)

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Bronski Beat – Small Town Boy


You leave in the morning
With everything you own in a little black case

Alone on the platform
The wind and the rain
On a sad and lonely face

Mother will never understand
Why you had to leave
For the answer you seek
Will never be found at home
The love that you need
Will never be found at home

Pushed around and kicked around
Always a lonely boy

You were the one
That they'd talk about around town
As they put you down
And as hard as they would try
They'd hurt to make you cry

But you'd never cry to them
Just to your soul
No you'd never cry to them
Just to your soul


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A stirring portrait of being bullied and cast out by family members due to one’s homosexuality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuz94ZIPfJk
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 11:39
Why do you associate bullying with Gay marriage.

That Bronski Beat song could equally apply to a brother and sister.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 11:52
Do I have this right? 

Are you advocating that brothers and sisters should be allowed marry?  On the basis that if you allow the Quuarss the right, the whole institution is fecked anyway and you might as well open it up to siblings and ladbradors and the like?
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 11:56
Ifs supposed to be about equality.

We are constantly being told " if two people love each other " but what if they are sister and brother,why should they not be included in this new definition of marriage.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 11:56
Lets use the up to date term...GSA (Genetic Sexual Attraction)

Genetic Sexual Attraction happens in up to half of all situations in which pubescent or post-pubescent genetic relatives meet for the first time or reunite after having been separated since at least one of them was a child.

Most people are attracted to people who look like them. Who looks more like you than a close genetic relative? The Westermarck Effect overrides this in most (not all) circumstances in which one person raises another or they grow up in the same home. Close genetic relatives who were separated won't have the Westermarck Effect countering a powerful physical attraction. Add in emotional and psychological factors involved in reuniting with a lost family member, and you have something extremely powerful.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 11:58
Its an excellent point, Borne, I think you have may have grounds for suggesting the inclusion
By:
workrider
When: 11 May 15 12:02
Wildmanfromborneo , what a cad you are , you reel poor Norma in day after day , she can't wait , then you strip her of her dignaty ..The poor thing is on edge all day after it , please take pity and do the right thing by her ...Laugh
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:03
Plenty of people out there agree with you

http://marriage-equality.blogspot.co.uk/

http://marriage-equality.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/successful-gsa-relationships.html
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 12:03
It could also be called homophobic as I didnt say brother and brother.

The nonsense of equality is getting to ludicrous levels,its being pushed forward by an elite that don't believe in it.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:06
I think you need to be patient Borneo.....one step at at time...

remember the hullaballo about interracial marriages.....then mixed marriages...now Quuuuaaarrr marriages.....you could well be right that GSA's deserve to be the next battlefield.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:08
Probably more cases of incest around your neck of the woods than actual Quuuaarss anyway,  its natural that such issues be prominent in your thinking.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 12:20
You make my point.

If this referendum is carried do ye think the Gay lobby is going away,they are being bankrolled from America to the tune of millions,they have access to all the top politicians,they will press on til all our institutions are destroyed.

Never any problems with interracial marriages here,mixed marriages were always allowed here so stop trying to rewrite history.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:36
Just because something didn't happen in Ireland, it doesn't follow that it didn't happen.

The battle on interacial-marriage might not have taken place in Ireland (we had little or no one of any colour anyway) but it was fought, nonetheless, in the USA, in NAzi Germany  in Apartheid South Africa etc.

As regards the Gay Lobby being bankrolled from the US, that's just your paranoid imagination running riot!
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:40
Actually, strike that, turns out they are coughing up a few quid!

God Bless America!
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 12:42
Glen has acknowledged receiving millions from America.

Breda OBriens article in Saturdays Irish Times sets it out in stark details.

Then again it is a typical defence of yours,no one is allowed a differing opinion they are either mad,paranoid are suffering from some phobia.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:42
http://www.atlanticphilanthropies.org/achieving-civil-partnerships-same-sex-couples

Mission

The Atlantic Philanthropies are dedicated to bringing about lasting changes in the lives of disadvantaged and vulnerable people.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 12:44
Strange of you to admit your knee jerk reaction of labelling it paranoid was wrong.i suppose the overwhelming evidence made it inevitable.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:47
I had momentarily forgotten the generosity of the above foundation.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 12:48
You need all the help you can get when opposing highly organised and moneied institutions such as the Catholic Church.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 12:52
The Catholic Church is a beaten docket,they don't even preach to their own flock.

They should come and tell their members to vote No as its against their religion,instead we have had to listen to priests who just want to curry favour with people who despise them anyway agreeing with the proposal.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 13:11
Plenty of auld die hards still listen to them.  Wonks wouldn't tie his shoelaces without their say so.

A STATEMENT FROM Catholic bishops that it would be a “grave injustice” for same-sex marriage to proceed is being distributed to over 1,300 parishes throughout Ireland...so don't try and tell me that they are not sticking their oar in.

Kudos to the Church of Ireland group that has come out in support of a ‘yes’ vote
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 13:12
I have a luncheon appointment, old sport.  Catch you later x
By:
alun2005
When: 11 May 15 14:11
A stirring portrait of being bullied and cast out by family members due to one’s homosexuality.    (re: Bronski Beat's excellent "Small Town Boy".


Thankfully a phenomenon fast becoming extinct in Traditional Britain, and much for the better. 

No, in Modern 'Tolerant' New Britain, you are vastly more likely to be bullied (or subjected to an 'Honour Killing' if necessary) if you are a girl or woman who wants to choose her own partner, instead of her silently accepting the suppression of her free choice. The same community also don't like homosexualist men, and no amount of Bronski Beat songs will alter that.

Our recent UK General Election saw a political party rightly being punished for bowing to the Islamic preference for Segregated Meetings at a Community Centre where the women were required to sit separately from men. Unthinkable in any country in the West you would think, but seemingly not to the Labour Party meeting in the Midlands.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 17:22
One has to laugh really at the inadequacies of the Socialist Left in GB.  The reason they were punished by the electorate was primarily because they failed to choose an electible leader.  What happened at some meeting in  the Midlands is neither here nor there in the big picture.  It remains to be seen if they will learn from this.  If they cannot manage their own affairs, why should they be trusted with running the Country?

Alun, it is fabulous to hear that homophobia has largely diminished in Britain.  We are rather less evolved as a Nation; remember we are, comparatively speaking, a rural backwater whose conscience, constitution, culture  and laws have long been shaped by the Catholic Church (only recently in decline).

Let me give you an example which ties in with the Father in the Bronski Beat video, unwilling to shake his gay sons hand, as he left for the Big Smoke.  How very early 80's you might say.  Well, recently we have had  prominent forumite on here, react in an apoplectic manner to the whiff of an allegation that his Son might be gay.  All sorts of threats were issued, war was declared....and this from a man who had taken colourful abuse form all angles over a long period.  T'was the inference that he had a Gay Son that broke him.  A telling insight into our Nation.
By:
workrider
When: 11 May 15 17:43
What broke me was the thought YOU might come a calling..Laugh
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 17:48
Laugh
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 17:58
Borneo, as Chief Islamophobe in Residence, can you give us a head up on Honour Killigs and other sordid goings on in the Islam community in Ireland
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 18:28
There was an individual in Waterford butchered some child in some mutilation ritual,the baby died but the judge let him off because he was afraid to offend.

He was guilty of the classic inverted racism that plagues Ozymandius.

Ye deem certain peoples inferior thus letting them away with crimes as they know no better.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 18:42
One isolated case? Phew!
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 May 15 18:50
What makes you think it was isolated,its just the first me to spring to mind.

There was another case in one of those centres where they are all being forced into prostitution,some FGM performed child injured but not killed.
Not that it mattered really as the precedence has been established,allowed do what they like just mention words like Multiculturism and the law are sent running for cover.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 19:08
I have to say I find female circumcision a particularly vile practice.
By:
workrider
When: 11 May 15 22:27
The Gay comm were out in force at the match tonight , offering leaflets encouraging people to vote yes ..Happily they were left with plenty ,I have a feeling they can feel it turning against them ,the fact that people are sick of listening to the Government who are all in favour of a yes vote also seems to be having a reverse effect ..Can see this been closer than people think , the deciding vote could be the immigrant one ..Sadly for the pro vote most of our Immigrants are Muslims ,and we know how they'll vote , interesting very interesting .
By:
pa lapsy
When: 11 May 15 22:34
It is turning alright Workrider because only now people are realising the right of the child.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 22:35
Laugh  Wonks extends olive branch and proposes Alliance of Convenience with Irish Muslims in desperate last gasp attempt to thwart Quuuaaars!
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 22:39
http://www.independent.ie/sport/brian-odriscoll-and-a-host-of-sports-stars-are-backing-a-yes-vote-in-marriage-referendum-31212608.html

Cian Healy:

"Also, I think the "No" posters are an outright disgrace. They're not holes in the "No" argument, they're craters! #Yes

"No campaign is against any single parents or adoption judging by their posters. I find that highly offensive. Haven't heard them clarify."


Robbie Keane (Tallaghts favourite son):

Robbie Keane went to the effort of penning an emotional open letter to the Sunday World Newspaper.
The Republic of Ireland captain and LA Galaxy star said he was prompted to voice his support because he fears gay people are being “excluded because of their sexuality”.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 11 May 15 22:41
Do you think it is a fundamental right for a child to have the balance of a father and mother Oz?
Give the ould google a rest and just answer honestly.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 22:50
No.

How many times do you need to be told?

No end of single Mums out there doing a fine job, for example.  Would their parenting impact be boosted by taking a wife....yes, is the answer.....
By:
Ozymandius
When: 11 May 15 22:55
F/F > F
M/M > M
M/F = M/M* = F/F*

* assumes ready supply of breast milk replacement.


Capisce, Lapsy?
By:
pa lapsy
When: 11 May 15 23:07
Babies shouldn't be bought either though Oz,there is no rights for the child,he/she cannot be instrumental in the exchange of money.
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