EUROPEAN FOOTBALL DOUBLE

what a massive market move for barcelona home win tomoro, nearly a 30% move. thats the stuff those football traders dream of.

Barca playing like a dream at mo. Would love to see them put on a serious show.

They looked very good Callit, wonderful Players up front;The match will also be special for Barcelona playmaker Lionel Messi, who will make his 100th European appearance for the club.

Fancy Madrid to Win to Nil tonight, 4/1 + on here.

All Spansh final on the cards.

Surprised Juve are favs tonight. I would have expected RM to be about 2.6. 3.05 currently....looks v big.

Think Barca look by far the best in it now as well,look a decent ht/ft tomorrow at a shade over 6/4,did double Real for a small stake db also tonight but hopeful rather than confident there though i think they could boss Juventus who haven't really impressed me.

Get with Real as well lads, Tevez is on his own up there and can't see them scoring either, Real will.

I got Barca to win 2-0 here at 9/1, B Munich have a few of there best players i cant see them getting a result ... Real Madrid to win 2-1 at 12/1 is a fair bet as they are excellent at the counter/attacking game.. as Ozy says an all Spanish final,

Everyone seems to be writing off the Germans

id say the under 1.5 goals is the way to go in the juve game.italian mentality will be defensive and real might be happy enuf with a 1/0 either way..

Have backed Real myself 3.05.. , but my record is not great recently...

Tis a near unanimous choice,the price looks crazy and begs the question what you're missing,is it going to be a scrappy cynical game? or are they both seemingly be happy with the draw? Always like Neill's views on the football and his mention of just Tevez up front had me in the mind that Real may very well dominate possession.
Hopefully the Irish forum is kickin as$ tonight.

You da man, Lapsy!

Naked Congo at Full Time.

Laid Juve at 2.72.

That's up to yerselves,i'm not able to throw the shapes these days.

H/TIME  1-1  GREAT GAME OF FOOTBALL,HOPE THE 2ND HALF IS A GOOD.

What a dose. Well deserved for Juventus,Real were just disappointing,mainly poor passing with Ramos the main culprit and a complete no show by Bale. Real when behind had no idea whatsoever how to even try to break down an admittely a very strong defence.

Well done Juv.

Congo officially cancelled.

An expensive evening, Gentlemen.

sore one for me lads..... Juve a better side than I thought. Would ye still fancy Real to progress? I nearly would. I thought real were a lot better at the back than they actually were. Would like to see grab hold of the thing more as well.

than they actually are*

Benzema was a big miss as well, knits it together up front. Ronaldo and him link so well. Thought they'd still have well enough.

In hindsight, was the price based around the fact that there was always the certainty that Juve would be very well-coached and play in a really professional manner and that Real with there more erratic characters and laissez-faire regime(no criticism of Carlo) were always prone to doing something stupid?

it is something I completely overlooked, anyway.

Juventus are useless and cannot win the champions league. Soccer is a foolish betting medium, penalties and red cards decide too many games, as it did this one. Impossible to bet on something as volatile as this sport.

agree with mincer...sadly for me

The variance between what you perceive as the correct probability and the odds available must be minimal in such liquid markets.

Over a large sample size,the percentage of times you have to be correct to consistently make profit at football must be extremely high?

Is all the information not publicly available to mass audiences,I can't see how it's possible to have a distinct edge on top tier football.

If there is 40 million matched on a champions league event,can you really know that much more than the market?

Obviously there will be plenty of occasions where you're correct but the margin/edge has to be minuscule over a significant sample size?

Far from an expert on football betting but the above would be my instinctive thoughts.

Pre-match trading is possibly different but probably driven by release of information

Heard on BBC Radio last sunday that ,wait for it , between 8 to 10 BILLION thats correct , can be punted on ONE Premiership came by the Asians...Incredible ..

65 million stg bet on an ireland world cup cricket match on here that most of ireland didnt know was even on...asia is where the big bucks are

You'd be right DJ, you'd want to be right well in excess of 50% of the time at the prices I often play at. But I think you'd find as well that there is a pretty big recency bias. I thought arsenal went off at a pretty backable price last night based on what Hull had done to Liverpool and crystal Palace, but Arsenal were an altogether slicker outfit than those 2 and the likes of Quinn and Meyler had none of the tools (craft or athleticism) to cope with Cazorla who lorded it.

I think there is a lot put into recent form and home advantage, but wherever that went off last night, the two Irish lads in the middle were going to struggle.

I thought Madrid played like idiots tonight at times, but I thought having won it last season.... maybe they might have matured as in terms of football skill, they'd have every quality you'd want to cope with Juve bar maybe Hernandez up front. But then I didn't see what Paulie saw.

What currency is that Wonks?  10,000 million what?

I like football betting, 3 possible outcomes, everyone trying.  All information in public domain.

As regards an edge, well......maybe not......but then I am not competing against people with an edge either  ..... so at least I feel I have a chance of coming out ahead.  I'll take my chances and back my judgement in what is a relatively efficient market.

I know in horse racing that I have a negative edge...without any connections....I have no idea what horses are trying, I have no idea if they are fit (without being at track) and i have no idea if they are training well at home.  Factor in the fact that they are animals and therefore unpredictable, I would perceive myself as having no chance of coming out ahead.  Now granted you can choose your races to eliminate some of these drawbacks...but even still....

must be impossible for me too, never watch any horse races yet i can find winner after winner, must be ST ANTHONY helping me out all the time.

ANTHONY PATRON SAINT of finding things

^^^

How do you answer that? I shall retreat to the cot.Best of luck chaps.

Few interesting races at Chester coming up over the next couple of days (still a bit early though imo for the flat),Giovanni Canaletto doesn't run as scoped badly on Monday according to AOB on Monday (ATR)

Anthony be better off looking for his fuc kin marbles.

Can't wait to see Sir Isaac Newton. Could well be the best of all of em' by Derby day not to mind late summer. I thought he would be the miler and they keep talking about how quick he is, in the interview early season AOB said that he didn't think Highland Reel would get much further than 8f which I was really surprised at. He's in France at the weekend it seems.

Noted that Gary O'Brien didn't get to ask Aidan about John F Kennedy at the Curragh over the weekend. There is so little about him since the blow out it is like he doesn't exist.

They don't run much in the Dante so that must be a negative for Ol' Man River.

Presume it is still JFK for the Derrinstown but they didn't make as many excuses for him as I'd thought and haven't since.

Agree with you Paulie to an extent with football as a betting medium,the fact that in this day and age that a video replay isn't employed is mind boggling,personally find gaa worse though with a ref doing his utmost to level a game very often.
Agree also there is usually little edge with football markets and are priced right generally,different certainly to early horse markets where it often isn't the case.
Thik it is just the simple fact that Real under performed last night,up to then they were playing well in the CL,the header hitting the crossbar was the pivotal point in the match,doubt Juve would have won as they would have to chase the game,Real would have been "lucky" anyway.

juventus been unbeatble at home for nearly two seasons, have they only lost one of their last 50 games played at home, taken aback by the over
enthusiastic support for real madrid last night, the italians dont roll over for anyone on their own territory. clue to last nights match was
the QF'S games against A MADRID. their was enough evidence over those two legs to prove that real madrid are a team that can be nullified

And there is even more evidence that you yourself deserve to be nullified.

you have been put through the mincer which other usernames do you go by? seems lot of people on here have multiple personalities, now fcuk off you gobshoite

Thank god theres only one of you roadrunner, and as far im concerned theres going to be none of you from now on,as im just about to block you for life.
See you in the next life roadie,and try and keep yourself out of them institutions.

Ozy that was a BBC programme on corruption in sport .  The 8 to 10 billion is Sterling...

really enjoy DJGUESSERS sermons, in another life he would of been either a priest or a vicar

I notice that Real Madrid are currently 1.44/1.45 to win this weekend. They are playing at home against a strong Valencia.

Both teams need the points; RM in their pursuit of Barcelona for La Liga title and Val to aid Champs Lge qualification. Valencia beat Madrid at the Mestalla in Jan this year when Madrid were looking for their 23rd win in a row. Also, in the corresponding game last season played at this time of the year, when RM were in a battle with Barca and Atletico for the title, the teams drew 2-2 in Madrid.

Quite recently, Val were beaten 2-0 by all-conquering Barcelona at the Camp Nou but I think anyone who saw the match would have to agree that the Catalans were fortunate to emerge victorious.

Considering that Madrid had a very tough, physical game last night in the C.L., allied to the info above, I think they can be opposed to beat Valencia this sat.

Excellent post Reb ;with sound reasoning  for the bet.ty

This is a game of football.

End to end stuff , smashing to watch...

Messi; Magical Mystery Tour, what a player,    i thought the Ref was great as well.

Frank he is the best player EVER.....

His 2nd goal

Great match. Great Messi.

I think it's rather obvious with years he is the best player of all time. Wonky seems to only have realised it tonight.

Rip Boateng.

REB.....I notice that Real Madrid are currently 1.44/1.45 to win this weekend. They are playing at home against a strong Valencia.

Both teams need the points; RM in their pursuit of Barcelona for La Liga title and Val to aid Champs Lge qualification. Valencia beat Madrid at the Mestalla in Jan this year when Madrid were looking for their 23rd win in a row. Also, in the corresponding game last season played at this time of the year, when RM were in a battle with Barca and Atletico for the title, the teams drew 2-2 in Madrid.

Quite recently, Val were beaten 2-0 by all-conquering Barcelona at the Camp Nou but I think anyone who saw the match would have to agree that the Catalans were fortunate to emerge victorious.

Considering that Madrid had a very tough, physical game last night in the C.L., allied to the info above, I think they can be opposed to beat Valencia this sat.     iTS LOOKING GOOD REB  real madrid 0 valencia 2 after 35mins

looking good so far, Reb, RM 2 down.

snap, Frank

Having bet Rebs recommendation it make sense to back Real  now at 8.2 to win the game, hope some off you foremites were on.

Great game ;good call Reb

Thanks frank and very good advice from you at 20.00.

real madrid nullified again, you can lay off your double bet and you have a free bet at 4/1, all that shoite about an all spanish final