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Generally the NH jockeys are a breed apart , nothing but respect for them . Most of them are bred for the job , Ruby certainly is . Apart from the humanity referred to , he can ride a bit too . Top 5 NH jockey of all time from those I have seen over the years . And high in that 5 .
You do worry about injuries though , thats where AP has been different , cant all be luck over 20 years . Ruby has had a clatter of injuries comparatively speaking . Guess everyone's bones are different . |
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Well said Norn Iron.
I have the utmost respect for Ruby and would rank him the best I've ever seen. Slickster is on the racing forum claiming Ruby is deliberately falling at the last because he does some work for Paddy Power,incredibly a host of other posters agree with him. He has had a few last hurdle falls,its been discussed and discussed and it has to prey on his mind. He will certainly be thinking about it every time he comes down to the last,I'm afraid it will become psychological. |
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Well said Norn
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I am sorry men but how on earth is being a jockey one of the toughest jobs??
Yes there is the risk element when getting on a horse but jesus you must all have led some sheltered life if you think being a jockey is one of the toughest jobs, most of these jockeys dreamed about doing this job just like footballers dreamed growing up of playing for top teams etc............ It is the job they wanted growing up is nowhere near one of the toughest jobs |
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Its far and away the hardest and the cruellest.
They are savagely underpaid,only a few make it and how many have to stop through injury. They are badly treated by stewards,badly treated by the ground and badly treated by the likes of Premier Fantasy when his selection gets beaten. If they make a mistake they first have to run the gauntlet of screaming punters most of whom haven't even backed the beast,they then are confronted by the trainer who gives him a piece of his mind,the owner will then join in probably saying you will never ride for me again. Having survived this onslaught he hears the dreaded sound that the Stewards want to speak to him. This is the worst of all,he will be lectured by a group of gin sodden unthinking gentlemen who will hand down some ludicrous ban depriving him of his income leaving unable to ride when fit. To sate the blood lust of Stewards and Premier Fantasy all jockeys should get a card when the inevitable outrageous sentence is handed down it is entered on his card,he can serve the sentence when he likes so when injury calls he then ticks of the days. The recent case of Jason Maguire should alert you to the lousyness of the present system. |
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Different day same old rubbish from wildmanfromborneo
Yes being a jockey is a lot harder than let's say a fisherman out on the Bering Sea up for days on end without any sleep (as an example) To sate the blood lust of Stewards and Premier Fantasy all jockeys should get a card when the inevitable outrageous sentence is handed down it is entered on his card,he can serve the sentence when he likes so when injury calls he then ticks of the days. More rubbish as per normal from the man who doesn't believe they should be punished for cocaine and other recreational drug use |
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Wildman are you a journalist with the Daily Mail?
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This is the worst of all,he will be lectured by a group of gin sodden unthinking gentlemen
Never knew you where a steward |
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Is the fisherman fishing in the Bering sea drug tested,is he breathalysed if he makes a minor error is he prevented from working.
Does that same fisherman have to starve himself and if he doesn't get a load of fish is he roundly abused by people on the quay when he returns. Tell The King are the Daily Mail defenders of jockeys? If I was a steward I would never ever ban a jockey other than for corruption. |
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Tell The King are the Daily Mail defenders of jockeys?
No they should be locked up in a padded cell, I would say that's where he got the comparison from |
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The forum hothead losing his temper again,can you not just disagree without resorting to childish abuse.
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You incapable of ever posting anything different?? Same rubbish again
You in your post of 10:30 where the first to have a dig, claiming I slag off jockeys when my selections lose something I guarantee you cannot prove but hey ho have you ever posted factual proof about anything you've claimed / posted on here?? Also saying I want them to get outrageous sentences for their offences again rubbish Surprised your band of merry men have not come along to defend your garbage yet |
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Wildman I have rarely read as sensationalist a post on this forum - and this from someone who has accused others in the past of using fuzzy emotionalism to substantiate their points.
A few facts about jockeys: 1) If they are any good they will make a living the same as anyone else in any other profession 2) Injuries are part and parcel of the game and it's the deal they take going in 3) They deserve criticism for making mistakes as much as adulation for riding brilliant races 4) I can count on one hand the number of times I've witnessed a jockey being accosted on course 5) To suggest jockeys should be free to perform with alcohol / drugs in their system is unbelievably myopic / If they are booked to ride then they should have the cop on to abstain 6) Many jockeys are of limited intelligence and racing provides them an opportunity that no other industry would |
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The old mantra about injury being part and parcel of the sport trotted out again but its not reflected in their remuneration.
Formula 1 drivers accepted danger as part and parcel of their sport but they got paid millions because of this,even when the danger was all but eliminated they still got their millions. On what basis do you say " many jockeys are of limited intelligence " I'm almost waiting for the midget jibe. |
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Formula 1 drivers get paid millions because the sponsorship structure allows it.
I am basing it on the interactions I have had with any number of jockeys plus stories about others. It's no surprise that the more well spoken jockeys (Ruby, Geraghty and Davy for example) are often the ones that ascend to the top. There are fellas with riding licences that I wouldn't trust to tie their laces (even the velcro shoe kind). I'm not specifically criticising them as such. After all most people across all walks of life are a bit dim. What I am saying is that they are getting a chance to make a living in racing that they wouldn't get elsewhere. |
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If what you say is true it makes it all the worse,people ganging up on others of limited intelligence.
I accept your point about sponsorship in Formula 1 but still think jockeys should use the danger as a bargaining tool for proper pay and conditions. There still is the old style trainers idea that jockeys are vermin to be shouted at and abused,its flourishing on here,calls for six month bans,calls for apprentices to be banned for an injudicious ride. Does anyone remember the way Alan Merrigan was treated? |
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Charlie Swan rode Autumn Gorse trained by Aidan OBrien in a handicap hurdle in Punchestown,he was a short priced favourite was clear only to fall at the last.
Swan was badly winded seeing stars and in ferocious pain,he thought some people were coming over to help but instead he heard bellowing " get up you !!!!!!!! You jumped off " two others joined in,it was so bad the ambulance men had to step in. |
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Widman who takes a blind bit of notice of anything said on here? As far as I can see jockeys are still largely revered on course by the paying patrons. Instances of punters volleying abuse directly at them are certainly few and far between them in any event.
What pay level do you suggest? They get about 150 per ride after deductions. There is prize money, sponsorship, retainers occasionally and "presents" after that. They also get paid for riding out in the morning if they so choose. Any person thats worthy of being called a jockey is deriving at least a decent living out of racing. Any increases would have to be paid for by the owners. |
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That may be true but that was a couple of imbeciles.
Speaking of AOB, one morning a rider got unseated in the walking ring in Ballydoyle during warm up. Aidan came over to the stricken rider (he broke his collarbone) and instead of helping him up he berated him and told him to get back up on the horse. It ain't just the punters who are capable of such behaviour. |
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O'Brien always comes across as Pope John Paul V on tv. A very eye opening insight provided....
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Roger I'd say AOB is a man who puts himself under pressure and it must break out in flashes in private. There's no-one in the world that could be as courteous as the character he portrays on camera.
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PREMIER THE REASON I SAID IN TOUGHEST = VERY FEW JOBS HAVE THE AMBULANCES FOLLOWING YOU AROUND AT WORK EVERY DAY ?
FOOTBALLERS ARE BIGGEST OVERPAID PRIMA DONNAS IVE EVER COME ACCROSS LOOK AT WAGES =WAYNE ROONEY APROX 250000£ WEEK (IM MANU SUPPORTER BUT THAT IS DISGRACE ) PLAYERS LIKE RAHEEM STERLING LOOKING CRAZY £ WHEN THEY NOT CLOSE BEING WORLD CLASS . BUT ITS CLUBS FAULT AS FIRST CLUB THAT STARTS PAYING BONUSESS ON WINNING AS APPOSED TO GETTING SAME AMMOUNT FOR LOSING IMO WOULD GET BETTER EFFORT FROM OVERPAID PLAYERS? FOOTBALLERS ROLL ABOUT FEIGNING INJURIES WHEN RUGBY CARRIES ON AS THE PLAYERS GET TREATED ANYWAY EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THERE OPINION JUST THINK RUBY (WHO I CANT GET ON WINNER) GETS LOT STICK ETC BUT DEFINITLY EARNED LOT RESPECT BY HIS ACTIONS RANT OVER GOOD LUCK PUNTERS /MY 123 LORD WINDERMERE/FIRST LIEUTENANT/ROCKY CREEK |
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Thing with the footballers, the remarkable thing is the entire world (ish) turns in to watch them live EVERY WEEK!
Take a big Hollywood star, say Tom Cruise, he cannot churn out a new movie every week. And even if he could, people wouldn't choose to watch them 'live' per se, rather at a time of their choosing. Live sport, especially live sport with a global audience, such as The Premiership is The Daddy for advertisers, partially because there is no escaping of or fast forwarding the adds. With the latest TV deal, you can expect salaries for footballers to grow by up to 70% so get used to even more astronomical numbers. |
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Flyod Mayweather topped Forbes' 2014 list of the world's highest-paid athletes with earnings of $105 million over 12 months. He became just the second athlete after Tiger Woods to earn more than $100 million in a single year. Forbes estimates that Mayweather has earned roughly $420 million during his career from fighting.Sep 13, 2014, im not sure of the purse he will recieve for his fight with Manny some say 70millon.
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Re OP
In my lifetime imho top 3 N H jockeys (At their peak) 1 R Walsh,2 CF Swan,N Williamson. |
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GET WELL SOON ROBBIE MCNAMARA
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FANTASTIC WORK AGAIN BY RUBY WAVING WARNING FLAG SHOWS HOW MUCH HORSEMAN HE IS AND LETS ALL HOPE ROBBIE MAC MAKES FULL RECOVERY AND IS IN EVERYONES PRAYERS
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No doubt when the dust has settled some imbicile will be "having a word" with Ruby on basis that is not authorised to be a flag waver , he is purely there to ride horses , and should "know his place" . Opportunity to raise money via fine process .
Dont know the exact circumstances on Ruby's involvement in what happened , no doubt the media will get a story out of it somewhere along the line , but fair play to Ruby for "helping out" --I assume it was proper thing to do . |
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Nice piece in todays post Kelly ,apperantly there was a chance the race would have been voided if he hadn't stood there and directed them around the fence , so kudos Ruby...
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I haven't read that but it doesn't sound very plausible. What would the reason for voiding be?
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Can anyone out there in racehorse land verify that Ruby rode a winner on every racecourse in Ireland[Laytown as well] .....Also can anyone name a jockey who has[ if any ] THANK YOU
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Seemingly there was no room to go around the Canal turn as the fence is railed so you have to either jump or refuse and Ruby is supposed to have suggested and help move the rail (with the help of the Officials) at the fence so they could get around it.
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Is there anything he can't do!
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RUBY WALSH was a hero in an unexpected role in the Crabbie's Grand National as he did his bit to help prevent the race having to be stopped.
The jockey, who has won the National twice, was on Ballycasey, who was brought down at the Canal Turn first time round along with Balthazar King, who suffered a rib injury and needed veterinary attention. That meant the fence could not be jumped on the second circuit, which raised fears the race would have to be declared void as the field could not get round the obstacle. Racing Post race-reader Darren Owen, who was commentating on the race for BBC Radio 5 live from a box overlooking the Canal Turn, reported: "It's a dead end, that's where they corral the loose horses. There's no bypass, as such. "Ruby picked up the plastic running-rail and removed it to create the bypass around the Canal Turn. There were officials there too, but he got his hands dirty and showed a bit of initiative. "Then he got the tape out to put in front of the fence and took the checkered flag from one of the officials and went between the Foinavon fence and the Canal Turn." Walsh, whose picture waving the flag proved popular on social media, said: "I was down there and decided to give a hand. I was wearing pink so there was every chance they would see me. I would have done the same at home." |