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Interview on Radio 1 (RTE) yesterday with Richard Oakley (Sunday Times, Ireland, digital edition editor) following an article he wrote in that newspaper last Sunday. Well worth a listen for anyone who wants to have control over their gambling.
Hadn't heard of Richard Oakley before but this is a superb piece and an empowering listen. He doesn't have a gambling problem and stopped using his PP account after 6 years last December although showing a small profit. As he says, it's not just about the money; it's about the time spent gambling too. He also points out that your account will be restricted and you will be prevented from winning if you demonstrate an ability to show a profit on your betting.
If anyone can post the original article, that would be great as I haven't yet been able to obtain a copy of Sunday's edition.
From the RTE website :
What your Bookmaker knows about you
As the Cheltenham Festival kicks off tomorrow, thousands of Irish punters will outlay thousands of euros on bets, but do gamblers really know how much they are winning and losing?
Richard Oakley from the Sunday Times, a self-described ‘reasonably careful gambler’, set out to find out about his own gambling habits and he joined Sean in studio.
If you think you might have a problem with gambling you can contact the National Gambling Helpline on 1800 753 753.
Listen to the interview below :
http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20740873%3A0%3A%3A
Hadn't heard of Richard Oakley before but this is a superb piece and an empowering listen. He doesn't have a gambling problem and stopped using his PP account after 6 years last December although showing a small profit. As he says, it's not just about the money; it's about the time spent gambling too. He also points out that your account will be restricted and you will be prevented from winning if you demonstrate an ability to show a profit on your betting.
If anyone can post the original article, that would be great as I haven't yet been able to obtain a copy of Sunday's edition.
From the RTE website :
What your Bookmaker knows about you
As the Cheltenham Festival kicks off tomorrow, thousands of Irish punters will outlay thousands of euros on bets, but do gamblers really know how much they are winning and losing?
Richard Oakley from the Sunday Times, a self-described ‘reasonably careful gambler’, set out to find out about his own gambling habits and he joined Sean in studio.
If you think you might have a problem with gambling you can contact the National Gambling Helpline on 1800 753 753.
Listen to the interview below :
http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20740873%3A0%3A%3A
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Here is the article in full from The Sunday Times :
https://webmail.eircom.net/service/home/~/08032015.pdf?auth=co&loc=en_GB&id=179720&part=2
https://webmail.eircom.net/service/home/~/08032015.pdf?auth=co&loc=en_GB&id=179720&part=2
If your bookmaker allows you to keep betting on your account he knows you are losing money.
If you show any sign of winning he knows enough about you to close your account.
If you show any sign of winning he knows enough about you to close your account.
Know for a fact that one of the larger well known bookies had programs written ( not in house) to identify "losers" with a view to targetting those account holders encouraging them to "participate " .
Mind you I found it hard to believe that this particular bookie operation needed outside help to identify "losers" .
Time that betting and bookies were subject to basic regulation . Betting / gaming must be the only commercial operation out there ( with shareholders etc) not subject to some form of formal scrutiny . Only "scrutiny" which exists comes from the operation funded by the bookies . Bonkers in this day and age , particularly with problem gambling increasing daily .
Mind you I found it hard to believe that this particular bookie operation needed outside help to identify "losers" .
Time that betting and bookies were subject to basic regulation . Betting / gaming must be the only commercial operation out there ( with shareholders etc) not subject to some form of formal scrutiny . Only "scrutiny" which exists comes from the operation funded by the bookies . Bonkers in this day and age , particularly with problem gambling increasing daily .
what you mean like a program that identifies losing accounts, or inactive losing accounts and pushes promotions at them. Stuff like that? Wow. What will they think of next?
Everything has to be taken in context Ozy . You have no idea of the time scale involved in the operation . Or whether the bookie concerned had on line systems then or even employed computer systems people . Or had other than "runners" .
The fact that bookies now target people is prima facie evidence that legislation needs to be put in force .
The fact that bookies now target people is prima facie evidence that legislation needs to be put in force .
Masters of the contradictory message
Alcohol and gambling corporations do everything to seduce us, then they implore us to go easy, writes Declan Lynch
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/declan-lynch-masters-of-the-contradictory-message-31067381.html
Alcohol and gambling corporations do everything to seduce us, then they implore us to go easy, writes Declan Lynch
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/declan-lynch-masters-of-the-contradictory-message-31067381.html
All bets are off: why bookmakers aren’t playing fair
Win too much at the races and you could find your bookmaker closing your account. An anonymous punter reveals why the odds are now firmly in favour of the big online firms
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/02/betting-horses-gambling-bookmakers-accounts-closed
Win too much at the races and you could find your bookmaker closing your account. An anonymous punter reveals why the odds are now firmly in favour of the big online firms
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/02/betting-horses-gambling-bookmakers-accounts-closed
The reason the odds are firmly in favour of the big online firms is that there is no regulation . None of the political parties anywhere gives a toot about the punter , its the devil take the hindmost .
The fact that "numbers games" ( where the punter cant win statistically) are allowed to proliferate is ridiculous . Indeed governments and organisations row in with those wanting to exploit the public desire for a punt , be it numbers or anything else .
As a punter all my life I understand the public desire to have a bet , but there needs to be a level playing field . Increasingly the big on line operations are lining up to fleece the punters , and no one is doing anything about regulation in this part of the world .
Anyone defending the current situation I place firmly with a "bookie" tag around their neck .
The fact that "numbers games" ( where the punter cant win statistically) are allowed to proliferate is ridiculous . Indeed governments and organisations row in with those wanting to exploit the public desire for a punt , be it numbers or anything else .
As a punter all my life I understand the public desire to have a bet , but there needs to be a level playing field . Increasingly the big on line operations are lining up to fleece the punters , and no one is doing anything about regulation in this part of the world .
Anyone defending the current situation I place firmly with a "bookie" tag around their neck .
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