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Not long ago he was out with the washing . Changed his lifestyle , zooms up to No 1 in about 3 months .
And he has declared for Irish golf .
Well done young man as Butch would say !
And he has declared for Irish golf .
Well done young man as Butch would say !
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Well done Rory, I don't know much about golf but it seems he is the most talented player around (apart from the conquered Garcia). If he can add the consistency to his game, which it seems he is threatening to do; he is going to be sensational.
This form seems to have vindicated his split from Wozniacki. The relationship might have been playing on his mind and if he had 'lifestyle problems' as you mention Kelly, he wouldn't be the first young lad to go out on the lash to put bad thoughts to the back of his mind.
I've warmed to him a lot through the last few months and wish him well.
This form seems to have vindicated his split from Wozniacki. The relationship might have been playing on his mind and if he had 'lifestyle problems' as you mention Kelly, he wouldn't be the first young lad to go out on the lash to put bad thoughts to the back of his mind.
I've warmed to him a lot through the last few months and wish him well.
I remember outside school one day, 2 young lads fighting both about 12, and I said to a fellow looker on. Who are you up for? He replied, "Who ever wins!".
Dissolving teamwozniaki has improved Rory's game immeasurably .
Dissolving teamhorizon still in the technical stage court wise , and though Horizon did a good job with Rory ( at a still being argued cost ) his move to being essentially self administered has not done him any harm as far as we can see .
Managing a ( good) golfer is not rocket science , its about having competent people you trust and like taking the weight off your shoulders . The hard bit is managing someone who is not very good .
Rory was floating around Belfast and district the week after the Open victory , visitng his home club and using local facilities . You wouldn't have seen Tiger doing that in similar circumstances , dropping into the butchers and local restaurant for food , and dealing effortlessly with the fans .
Rory's week away on a loaned yacht with his mates helped set him into the right frame of mind I suspect . My club had to call on reserves to fill a gap in that respect team wise .
Team Ireland is a good move for most except for the West Brits who might savour him in a "team GB " shirt come the Olympics . The Olympics are a dead duck anyway golf wise , but it is important for Rory to acknowledge his golf roots in island terms . Nobody in England ,Scotland or Wales did anything substantial to further Rory's career outside of Nick and Chubby . He is ( or was ) homegrown .
Ireland's current sporting prowess in world terms is headed up by AP and Rory , both world no 1's . I hope Rory's longevity and down to earthness matches AP's .
Dissolving teamhorizon still in the technical stage court wise , and though Horizon did a good job with Rory ( at a still being argued cost ) his move to being essentially self administered has not done him any harm as far as we can see .
Managing a ( good) golfer is not rocket science , its about having competent people you trust and like taking the weight off your shoulders . The hard bit is managing someone who is not very good .
Rory was floating around Belfast and district the week after the Open victory , visitng his home club and using local facilities . You wouldn't have seen Tiger doing that in similar circumstances , dropping into the butchers and local restaurant for food , and dealing effortlessly with the fans .
Rory's week away on a loaned yacht with his mates helped set him into the right frame of mind I suspect . My club had to call on reserves to fill a gap in that respect team wise .
Team Ireland is a good move for most except for the West Brits who might savour him in a "team GB " shirt come the Olympics . The Olympics are a dead duck anyway golf wise , but it is important for Rory to acknowledge his golf roots in island terms . Nobody in England ,Scotland or Wales did anything substantial to further Rory's career outside of Nick and Chubby . He is ( or was ) homegrown .
Ireland's current sporting prowess in world terms is headed up by AP and Rory , both world no 1's . I hope Rory's longevity and down to earthness matches AP's .
Wonderful golf , he played with confidence that comes with youth , his demeanor seems to have changed for the better , whether that's down to a new relationship or the ending of one is neither here or there ..Fact is the lad seems more involved with the game of golf , than he has been in the recent past ..It can't be about money , guy has plenty , so his new found confidence with the driver , memories of the 11th tee long since eroded , seems to be the key to his game ..Long may it continue , a new cash cow is about to be sprung on the world...
Aug 4, 2014 -- 2:09AM, irish_guy_13 wrote:
I remember outside school one day, 2 young lads fighting both about 12, and I said to a fellow looker on. Who are you up for? He replied, "Who ever wins!".
That was probably me.
Perhaps its just me, but I don't get the same thrill when Rory wins compared to when POD did. Padraig felt more like one of our own.
Golfing UNION of Ireland the key for anyone who feels Rory aint as Irish as Padraig in golfing terms . Not sure what passport Rory uses .
I know I have celebrated all our golfing successes by golfers from south or north in equal measure . And it has been success in golfing terms over the years from all parts of this small island .
How would you have felt for James Bruens successes Ozy ? Playing out of rebel territory in Muskerry ( with a hurlers swing) , but born and lived in Belfast until age of 11 or 12 .
I know I have celebrated all our golfing successes by golfers from south or north in equal measure . And it has been success in golfing terms over the years from all parts of this small island .
How would you have felt for James Bruens successes Ozy ? Playing out of rebel territory in Muskerry ( with a hurlers swing) , but born and lived in Belfast until age of 11 or 12 .
Theres only one POD,.. well done to Rory has to be said we had a bit of fun at his expence not so long ago , but he has come out of it like a man.i noticed a few of the ladies ajusting there hair as he Striding Out over the last few holes,
I know i didn't celebrate 2 of POD's 3 majors 
could not care where he was from seen as i was on Poulter in the Open and Sergio in the PGA
could not care where he was from seen as i was on Poulter in the Open and Sergio in the PGA
We are not just talking about administrative golfing associations and flags of convenience, Kelly.
We are talking about feelings and emotions. Rory has admitted he "feels more British than Irish".
He leaves me feeling a bit like poor Caroline. Let down and jilted at the altar. I can admire his extraordinary talent but he his wins don't thrill me as they would if I felt he was one of our own.
We are talking about feelings and emotions. Rory has admitted he "feels more British than Irish".
He leaves me feeling a bit like poor Caroline. Let down and jilted at the altar. I can admire his extraordinary talent but he his wins don't thrill me as they would if I felt he was one of our own.
Poor old Wozzy got the bullet in a 2 minute phone call(going out nearly 3 years), off out 2 minutes later with the next squeeze,not a lot of class there.
Got a right turn from the fella when he was quoted after Micheal Hoey's win a while back that he couldn,t care less once it wasn,t him.
No doubt playing great golf at the moment and no1 is deserved,just can't take to the fella and he rightly couldn't care less.
Got a right turn from the fella when he was quoted after Micheal Hoey's win a while back that he couldn,t care less once it wasn,t him.
No doubt playing great golf at the moment and no1 is deserved,just can't take to the fella and he rightly couldn't care less.
Still she now gets to wear her high heels again a la Kidman . That betrays a certain attitude from her , it takes two to tango . I dont think Rory is missing her .
I dont mind Wozniacki , nice girl by most accounts , how she got to world No 1 is anybodys guess . But in relationships there are always 2 sides to every story .
Rory does not claim to be a saint , but he hardly deserves to be criticised on a lot of counts .
And by the way , Michael Hoey is another local of ours , well known to a lot . Dont think he will get many invites to the Masters again .
I dont mind Wozniacki , nice girl by most accounts , how she got to world No 1 is anybodys guess . But in relationships there are always 2 sides to every story .
Rory does not claim to be a saint , but he hardly deserves to be criticised on a lot of counts .
And by the way , Michael Hoey is another local of ours , well known to a lot . Dont think he will get many invites to the Masters again .
Perhaps its just me, but I don't get the same thrill when Rory wins compared to when POD did. Padraig felt more like one of our own.
I would feel the same. I believe our country is 32 counties, so its nothing to do with the north/south sh1te, but when Pod won his majors, the hairs stood on my neck, I wore out the edge of the seat/bar stool, and I shed tears. This hasn't happened with Rory. Its nothing to do with financial involvement either, as I won more on Rory in his US Open than I won on Pod in his 3 victories.
I would feel the same. I believe our country is 32 counties, so its nothing to do with the north/south sh1te, but when Pod won his majors, the hairs stood on my neck, I wore out the edge of the seat/bar stool, and I shed tears. This hasn't happened with Rory. Its nothing to do with financial involvement either, as I won more on Rory in his US Open than I won on Pod in his 3 victories.
Rory had lifestyle problems ,eh ? Hmm...at least they weren't wifestyle.
The difference between pod and rory for me would be pod had hit the crossbar in so many tourneys and looked unlikely he'd ever win a big one as he wasnt the most natural of golfers. Were as with mcilroy theres an inevitability about it, you just know he's gonna win bucket loads,majors included with his talent and natural ability
Difference of day and night between PoD and Rory. Rory is expected to win Majors. Harrington was more of a grafter and nowhere near the natural ability of McIlroy
The difference between Padraig and Rory as golfers is immense . Padraig was never near world No 1 , Rory has been twice and looks like it could continue over a good bit of his golfing career . With Tiger unlikely to figure in the immediate future , the USA players unable to win little despite their numbers, the world top golfers at present are from all over the world . But the way the tours are set up , you have to win in America consistently to be at the top in world rankings . Which means being based in USA probably as Rory and Gmac are , unlike Padraig .
Padraig's Majors and a lot of his wins / near misses were almost always dramatic , Rory doesn't always do dramatic , just buries the rest of the field . I like that , I appreciate the skill level and am proud that a small island ( which we are) can produce such a golfer ( as well as our back up team , no slouches themselves as the records show ) . I find it strange that quite a few of my fellow countrymen dont identify with Rory , maybe it shows that we are not such a united tribe as we sometimes like to portray ourselves .
I know that some of the "tribe" up here abhor anything Irish , in the rugby scene some of my rugby playing local friends have admitted that when supporting Ireland in rugby they are only interested in the "Ulster" ( whatever that means in rugby terms = 9 counties ) players . I find that sad , particularly if you put it in the context of the day thats in it where we are remembering the start of world war 1 and all that involved in terms of blood spilled by all the "tribes" from our 32 counties . Without favour .
Rory to a certain extent represents the "new" face of Irish youth . My generation of catholics grew up with the dominant force throughout the 32 counties being Mother church . Ne temere has a lot to answer for in historical terms for relationships between the tribes involved . Nowadays the figures for regular church attendance among the under thirties would probably shock those with a still reverential attitude to the Church . Golf in Ireland thankfully never suffered dramatically from a sectarian outlook , GUI take a bow .
Living in the public eye in Northern Ireland brings extra pressures not associated with those living in the south . Media love stirring up controversy , it sells papers and pushes up ratings . In his early days Rory was not savvy enough to park the no go areas when asked for comments , and the sentiments dont always get reported 100% accurately . He is more mature now ,has more savvy , and wont get tripped up ever again I suspect . Declaring for Ireland for Olympics I would have thought buried the "British" allegiance . But dont forget that Rory lived and grew up in Holywood , not exactly a republican stronghold . I know plenty of people with republican leanings , and plenty of people in Holywood where my uncle and my solicitor were golf club members . They are mutually exclusive sets .
Rory represents a different aspect of our more traditional divisions , his parents are both catholic unlike Gmac whose mother is catholic , father non catholic , and I suspect that ne temere was ignored there as it used to be pre 1908 approx .
I was reminded of some of the vagaries of the question of descendancy recently in a TV program which pointed out that a substantial percentage of the county of Clare owe their descent to the men of Essex ( Cromwells soldiers who settled ) . I suspect there are a lot of similar anomalies throughout this island ( and beyond) . And as 2016 approaches there is going to be a lot more reportage and discussion about relative attitudes and stances which are still not unravelled 98 years later .
Rory is fine , take him as you find him , he has made mistakes ( Ernie partner etc) , but I think the growing up process as a person ( and as a golfer) is pretty near complete . Just hope he keeps up the gallop , he is the good news story , and there is enough fallout to give everyone in these 32 GUI counties a summer lift .
Padraig's Majors and a lot of his wins / near misses were almost always dramatic , Rory doesn't always do dramatic , just buries the rest of the field . I like that , I appreciate the skill level and am proud that a small island ( which we are) can produce such a golfer ( as well as our back up team , no slouches themselves as the records show ) . I find it strange that quite a few of my fellow countrymen dont identify with Rory , maybe it shows that we are not such a united tribe as we sometimes like to portray ourselves .
I know that some of the "tribe" up here abhor anything Irish , in the rugby scene some of my rugby playing local friends have admitted that when supporting Ireland in rugby they are only interested in the "Ulster" ( whatever that means in rugby terms = 9 counties ) players . I find that sad , particularly if you put it in the context of the day thats in it where we are remembering the start of world war 1 and all that involved in terms of blood spilled by all the "tribes" from our 32 counties . Without favour .
Rory to a certain extent represents the "new" face of Irish youth . My generation of catholics grew up with the dominant force throughout the 32 counties being Mother church . Ne temere has a lot to answer for in historical terms for relationships between the tribes involved . Nowadays the figures for regular church attendance among the under thirties would probably shock those with a still reverential attitude to the Church . Golf in Ireland thankfully never suffered dramatically from a sectarian outlook , GUI take a bow .
Living in the public eye in Northern Ireland brings extra pressures not associated with those living in the south . Media love stirring up controversy , it sells papers and pushes up ratings . In his early days Rory was not savvy enough to park the no go areas when asked for comments , and the sentiments dont always get reported 100% accurately . He is more mature now ,has more savvy , and wont get tripped up ever again I suspect . Declaring for Ireland for Olympics I would have thought buried the "British" allegiance . But dont forget that Rory lived and grew up in Holywood , not exactly a republican stronghold . I know plenty of people with republican leanings , and plenty of people in Holywood where my uncle and my solicitor were golf club members . They are mutually exclusive sets .
Rory represents a different aspect of our more traditional divisions , his parents are both catholic unlike Gmac whose mother is catholic , father non catholic , and I suspect that ne temere was ignored there as it used to be pre 1908 approx .
I was reminded of some of the vagaries of the question of descendancy recently in a TV program which pointed out that a substantial percentage of the county of Clare owe their descent to the men of Essex ( Cromwells soldiers who settled ) . I suspect there are a lot of similar anomalies throughout this island ( and beyond) . And as 2016 approaches there is going to be a lot more reportage and discussion about relative attitudes and stances which are still not unravelled 98 years later .
Rory is fine , take him as you find him , he has made mistakes ( Ernie partner etc) , but I think the growing up process as a person ( and as a golfer) is pretty near complete . Just hope he keeps up the gallop , he is the good news story , and there is enough fallout to give everyone in these 32 GUI counties a summer lift .
Yet another model posting from Kelly which exudes tolerance and enlightenment.
For myself -I exult in Rory's performances and love it when he stuffs the field and,by extension, the haters and begrudging commentators who try to belittle his achievements with petty nit-picking -efforts which are both laughable and pointless.
I applaud Gmac ,Clarke, Hoey ,Maybin, Stephanie Meadows, Lowry ,Harrington et al and any golfer from Ireland or N Ireland who perform with distinction on the world stage.
They may not know or care about my existence or my views as a private citizen but that doesn't matter -they are the public face of Ireland north and south and we should revel in their prominence which reflects well on our society.
Politics need have nothing to do with any of this. We're talking sporting culture and entertainment -we're talking traditions which have loomed large in the British Isles for many generations . we're talking neighbourly connections and marking deep-seated cultural linkages . So , if Irish players can't win -I hope it will be a British player who wins the day.
So . let's say Fpwler and Westwood are in a play-off for a major -I have nothing against Fowler but I'll be hoping for a Westwood win. It's not something I shout from the rooftops and I never sport flags or emblems for anything ( I always ensure my golf bag and caps display no logos or brand names) -it's just a quiet allegiance that is attracted to someone who's 'closer to home'.
I appreciate that people can also support players on other criteria than nationality -i.e. some players are seen to be surly , others more amiable etc.( some sign more autographs -which seems to be an issue for some!)- there can be many criteria but it would take an extended essay to figure out how they are ranked and interlocked in people's minds.
Anyway -citius , altius , fortius and all that ...and in Rory's case LONGIUS.
For myself -I exult in Rory's performances and love it when he stuffs the field and,by extension, the haters and begrudging commentators who try to belittle his achievements with petty nit-picking -efforts which are both laughable and pointless.
I applaud Gmac ,Clarke, Hoey ,Maybin, Stephanie Meadows, Lowry ,Harrington et al and any golfer from Ireland or N Ireland who perform with distinction on the world stage.
They may not know or care about my existence or my views as a private citizen but that doesn't matter -they are the public face of Ireland north and south and we should revel in their prominence which reflects well on our society.
Politics need have nothing to do with any of this. We're talking sporting culture and entertainment -we're talking traditions which have loomed large in the British Isles for many generations . we're talking neighbourly connections and marking deep-seated cultural linkages . So , if Irish players can't win -I hope it will be a British player who wins the day.
So . let's say Fpwler and Westwood are in a play-off for a major -I have nothing against Fowler but I'll be hoping for a Westwood win. It's not something I shout from the rooftops and I never sport flags or emblems for anything ( I always ensure my golf bag and caps display no logos or brand names) -it's just a quiet allegiance that is attracted to someone who's 'closer to home'.
I appreciate that people can also support players on other criteria than nationality -i.e. some players are seen to be surly , others more amiable etc.( some sign more autographs -which seems to be an issue for some!)- there can be many criteria but it would take an extended essay to figure out how they are ranked and interlocked in people's minds.
Anyway -citius , altius , fortius and all that ...and in Rory's case LONGIUS.
-they are the public face of Ireland north and south and we should revel in their prominence which reflects well on our society.
Politics need have nothing to do with any of this. We're talking sporting culture and entertainment -we're talking traditions which have loomed large in the British Isles for many generations . we're talking neighbourly connections and marking deep-seated cultural linkages
after his great win,our rory was in front of the media chatting and smiling with his deputy prime minister martin mcguinness,ex chief of staff of the provos.does that mean vub?rory has enlighten u and u now accept the democratic legitimacy of martin and sinn fein on this island.
Politics need have nothing to do with any of this. We're talking sporting culture and entertainment -we're talking traditions which have loomed large in the British Isles for many generations . we're talking neighbourly connections and marking deep-seated cultural linkages
after his great win,our rory was in front of the media chatting and smiling with his deputy prime minister martin mcguinness,ex chief of staff of the provos.does that mean vub?rory has enlighten u and u now accept the democratic legitimacy of martin and sinn fein on this island.
Soon nice replies on this thread, i hope some of the heads on the other side of the border feel the same way.
i wonder did rory bow from the ankles to martin..by god!i bet he did.
kingrat - I didn't see the display you refer to.
I presume Rory has to accept that McGuinness is where he is as a result of the votes of many thousands of people in his( Rory's) home country and he cannot countenance doing anything else without being seen to adopt a partial position which would be interpreted as a snub and an insult by those in the wider community who approve of McGuinness. Our thoughts and gestures are private -Rory must take a deep breath and tread a fine line in public
Sinn Fein are a detestable bunch of liars and hypocrites. It is hard for many to listen to Mr. Adams emoting about innocent casualties in Gaza when he supported the exact same activity for over a quarter of a century in N Ir. No acknowledgement has been made that the terror and murder campaign of the PIRA was wrong and no apology has been forthcoming.
It is regrettable that so many are apparently duped by the facile propaganda of SF -but democracy often throws up unpalatable scenarios which must be accommodated. Even the Queen has had to swallow hard and face the political reality that has been created.
I presume Rory has to accept that McGuinness is where he is as a result of the votes of many thousands of people in his( Rory's) home country and he cannot countenance doing anything else without being seen to adopt a partial position which would be interpreted as a snub and an insult by those in the wider community who approve of McGuinness. Our thoughts and gestures are private -Rory must take a deep breath and tread a fine line in public
Sinn Fein are a detestable bunch of liars and hypocrites. It is hard for many to listen to Mr. Adams emoting about innocent casualties in Gaza when he supported the exact same activity for over a quarter of a century in N Ir. No acknowledgement has been made that the terror and murder campaign of the PIRA was wrong and no apology has been forthcoming.
It is regrettable that so many are apparently duped by the facile propaganda of SF -but democracy often throws up unpalatable scenarios which must be accommodated. Even the Queen has had to swallow hard and face the political reality that has been created.
I think that is is very sad that we know what religion Rory and his parents are. Any other country would not give a F***
u had to think long and hard about that 1 vub.and then u post some nonsense at 1/2 three in the morning?
i dont recall clarke when he won the auld jug making much of an effort.
that little cameo of rory and martin in front of the world media was a statement.especially for people like u,vub!
and then u post some nonsense at 1/2 three in the morning?i dont recall clarke when he won the auld jug making much of an effort.
that little cameo of rory and martin in front of the world media was a statement.especially for people like u,vub!
Didn't see the afore mentioned photo shoot with Rory and Martin ( not the other way around ) . Sinn Fein are masters at PR and photo shoots . I remember well the weekend all their politicos were ordered not to be seen before cameras or in public places except in suits . Caused a few laughs and pertinent comments/slagging in Belfast pubs . The cupla focal still grates a bit though , few "native" Irish speakers among them , but loads of Saoirses etc being registered in the City Hall .
At least Martin admitted his hand in things unacceptable to most of us , Gerry still has not , but he is down south now and lots of people up here dont miss him .
The overall political scene and the relationships between previously warring factions has changed in these isles and in Europe . Few hate the Germans now , compared with when I was growing up .
Rory is beyong politics , he will be spending less and less time here as long as his golfing career flourishes and he remains healthy . But lots of his mates still hang out here , and will continue unless I am mistaken .
At least Martin admitted his hand in things unacceptable to most of us , Gerry still has not , but he is down south now and lots of people up here dont miss him .
The overall political scene and the relationships between previously warring factions has changed in these isles and in Europe . Few hate the Germans now , compared with when I was growing up .
Rory is beyong politics , he will be spending less and less time here as long as his golfing career flourishes and he remains healthy . But lots of his mates still hang out here , and will continue unless I am mistaken .
vub what i find most disturbing is your fixation with as you call it rorys home country,i remember another sick vile thread of yours about a young irish woman from the same 6 counties who was murdered abroad,the time of your post suggests that you were full of cheap wine presumably purchased in aldi in newcastle west..the cheap wine brings out the ultimate bigot in you vub.....
No wine required to reveal your bigotry, Dickie. It defines your life and colours your every viewpoint.
feck listen to rich(ters) the dic!! that has to be the most hypocritical post of all time..be hard pressed to find a more bitter,biggoted,angry fool than our dicky on the forum..and he also has a propensity to post his bitter ramblings in the middle of the nite when the rest of ur are fast asleep.i dont think dickys delusion is brought on by cheap wine tho,sadly for him hes always a retard.
The above is the stumbling mutteringof an unemployed uneducated east belfast fool who spends his life split between attending camp TWATell and the betfair forum complaining about bookmakers and matt chapman,,yes quite an existence i hear you say.......but it is their KULCHER i tell ye its his KULCHER......
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