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wildmanfromborneo
01 Jul 14 08:57
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Hope they kick them out of the league,crowd of hypocrites.
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Report db1974 July 1, 2014 10:18 AM BST
How are they hypocrites?
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 10:32 AM BST
The referee heard nothing but the trainer took it upon himself to firstly brand some young lad without evidence then exacerbate the situation by storming off.

He did so because he hopes to become some kind of hero,have his fifteen minutes of fame.

Just wait for the interview,you couldn't bet the odds on he will get a soft Rachel English type one probably start like this.

         What made a kind talented man like yourself take the noble stand against the scourge of racism.

         Is there anyway we can make a claim for damages for the hurt caused.

         Surely in this situation a quick cash settlement is the way forward.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:37 AM BST
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/schoolboy-soccer-club-fined-for-taking-players-off-pitch-in-stand-against-racism-273915.html

Does anyone know how I can get a cheque to this club to meet the 200e fine?

Viva John Terry!
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:43 AM BST
Bravo Mr McArthy and Bravo Carrigaline Football Club. We need progressive types making a stand to help eliminate  the evil scourge of racism.


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I had to make a moral decision,” said Mr McCarthy.

"I had to decide whether we should continue and try to win the game, or should I protect our player. I chose to back the player, protect him and the club. And we got punished for standing up for that. I made what I think was the moral decision. I think I made the correct decision.

"He’s been subjected to this kind of thing twice. The second time, I had to make a stand."

McCarthy was called before the Cork Schoolboys League’s disciplinary committee, which imposed a €200 fine on Carrigaline United.

Ted O’Callaghan, who also coaches the team  admitted being disappointed in the league’s decision to impose the sanction.

"We are a multicultural society and our sports clubs and teams reflect that. We feel we are being punished for taking a stand. These are only kids who want to play a game and we think the league is hiding behind the rule book here," he said.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:46 AM BST
You can send your best wishes and or donations to the club here;

http://www.carrigalineunitedafc.com/?/web/contact/

Lets hope Manchester United or some other progressive club give them a fixture to boost their funds.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 10:47 AM BST
That's more like it.

Ozymandius admires the clubs " stand " which is fair enough and is prepared to donate,wouldn't it be great if we get all the others who are demanding money to rely on donations,tell him the state can't afford it.
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 10:48 AM BST
Thanks for the link Oz.
"they were 1-0 down in a game they had to win to avoid relegation"
That is the crux of it imo,bad losers.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:50 AM BST
It isn't the Club who are demanding money its the Cork Schoolboy League who are demanding money, you numpty.

I fully expect money to flood into the Club from all over the world.

Say No to Racism, UEFA.org

http://www.uefa.org/video/videoid=2055181.html
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:51 AM BST
No surprise to see which side the ballygobackwards Luis Suarez sympathisers are taking here Laugh
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 10:52 AM BST
Laugh,you telling me they would have taken this fierce moral stand Ozy if they were 1-0 up, of course not.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:54 AM BST
I am, Pa.  This is not the Premiership we are talking about.....relegation in a kids league, big deal...it only means they will win more matches next year, which is a result.
Report workrider July 1, 2014 10:55 AM BST
Giggsy loves ya....Laugh
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 10:57 AM BST
And the only reason you seek to erode/mock the veracity of the 'fierce'? moral stand is because you don't empathise with the issue.

"We know what you are, We know what you are.  John Terry, we know what you are"
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 11:04 AM BST
Here is a interesting and topical piece from CNN entitled;

"Will racism end when the old guys die off?"

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/01/opinion/walton-millennials-racism-sterling-bundy/
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 11:06 AM BST
Shure how do you know what was said as it isn,t quoted? Obviously well laid on by the "martyrs", in any case storming off the field over it isn,t the right way to go either,the match should have been played and a complaint made after, getting beat at the time is very relevent which you choose to omit in your quotes and only give the one side.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 11:14 AM BST
The result is entirely irrelevant here, there are much bigger issues.  And I posted the link so you could read the story in it entirety which I would hardly have done if I was intent on censorship.

Walking off the pitch is now an increasingly common response to racism. Google "walking off pitch racism" and you will see countless examples including the likes of AC Milan etc.  There is a debate as to whether it is the right thing to do, but it certainly serves to highlight the ugly issue and that has to be a positive.

Do you see racism as a problem, Pa?
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 11:20 AM BST
Look Ozy if they were winning they wouldn,t have stormed off,that is 1.01 and very relevant.
In answer to your question i see racism toward indigenous white people becoming an increasingly larger problem.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 11:23 AM BST
What kind of wimps are we encouraging.

Anton Ferdinand stated he was upset and hurt at comments made to him,yet he abused another players wife made vile offensive gestures.

Its now filtering down to schoolboy football where young lads are reduced to tears by name calling,they are being taught this and they quickly get the power this bestowed.

These are the facts so far,team in relegation battle are trailing by a goal at half time,manager goes to referee saying one of hislayers was racially abused but no one else heard it,the referee didnt hear it.

What did the brave Mark McCarthy want him to do,send off the goal scorer,send off the defence,there was nothing he could do so the brave one high tailed it out of there.

Have no doubt this is now a get out card for teams who are behind in a vital match.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 11:25 AM BST
Ok, so your only understanding of and empathy towards racist issues relates to racism against your own grouping.  That's common enough unfortunately.

Relegation in a kids league, means kids win more matches next year and compete at a more appropriate level.  Most progressive coaches would see that as a good thing.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 11:32 AM BST
Not to these win at all costs coaches.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 11:40 AM BST
That's unknown in this case, though I agree those type of coaches are unfortunately common enough.  The anti-racsim stance he took suggests to me that he is a progressive type and I applaud him.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 12:01 PM BST
I would say he has found a new way of avoiding defeat and the bit of fame and adulation by the easily swayed just a pleasing side effect.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 12:04 PM BST
I would say that's because you don't empathise or recognise the issue and anyone who does or acts out against it, is automatically considered wrong in your eyes.  Thankfully your ilk are dying out...see above article.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 12:18 PM BST
I have long accepted that we have lost the argument but that's not enough for our new tyrants,we must now be hounded our views must be suppressed.

Liberal intolerance is the worst intolerance of all as they delude themselves into thinking they are enlightened.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 12:20 PM BST
I have long accepted that we have lost the argument but that's not enough for our new tyrants,we must now be hounded our views must be suppressed.

Liberal intolerance is the worst intolerance of all as they delude themselves into thinking they are enlightened.
Report reb July 1, 2014 12:25 PM BST
In fairness, wildman, that was a very good article that Ozymandius posted re racial intolerance.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/01/opinion/walton-millennials-racism-sterling-bundy/
Report wildmanfromborneo July 1, 2014 12:30 PM BST
I am sure I am one of the ilk Ozymandius hopes will conveniently die.

Now time for a bit of merriment,could someone put up the article.
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 3:51 PM BST
Cant bring that up myself,easiest way to look at it is bring up a new page(pressing the + button on the last page you have up at top of screen and then google the link at 11.04 letter for letter),that works for me anyway but you may have a different set-up.
As an aside how come you always have a load of stars after your replies Ozy,is someone kinda trolling you and putting them up nearly straight away?, he gives no stars to anyone else.
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 3:59 PM BST
Feck me i just gave meself a 4 star replyLaugh
Report CheltenhamRoar July 1, 2014 4:19 PM BST
Ah now we know who the culprit is pa Laugh
Report CheltenhamRoar July 1, 2014 4:20 PM BST
Editor's note: Chuck Walton III, a graduating senior at Howard University in Washington, co-founded elite-insiders.com, a sports and entertainment blog, and now works with ESPN 980. You can follow him on Twitter @ChuckyWalton. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.

(CNN) -- In the past week, we've seen an 80-year-old basketball franchise owner fall under the weight of racist comments about banning blacks and Latinos from his arena, and a 73-year-old Nevada rancher implode after saying blacks would be better off picking cotton.
So, does that mean we are finally coming to the end of all of this? Once these octogenarian white men from another time die off, will we finally be free of empirical racism in America?

Doubt it.

I'm a young guy -- 24. I went to Howard University in Washington. I hang out with the basketball team (in fact, I am Howard's first play-by-play announcer for our home games. Go Bisons!). My friends are of mixed background. We all get along.
But I also see others around me who, on the surface, may roll with a similar crowd, listen to the same music, say the right things, but who are also slowly being infected with the American disease of racial bias.

Chuck Walton III
I hear the subtle signs of racism on talk radio or on the Internet, where coded language of "quotas" and "boot-straps" is used in substitution of the old phrases of "ghettos" and "laziness." I read the Twitter feeds and troll the comment boards, listening to how those of like mind cluster together, reinforcing their own points of view.
But we've got a black President, right? It's all good, right?
Yes, racism, in less than a half-century, has largely gone from commonplace to taboo. If you are a 67-year-old beloved cooking show star who admits to having used the N-word, there are going to be consequences. If you own a nearly all-black NBA team yet verbalize a disgust for African-Americans, you're going to get checked.
Today, any controversial statement, once exposed to the disinfectant of sunlight and mass media, gets met with immediate backlash. As it should.
Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling learned this firsthand when NBA Commissioner Adam Silver banned him for life. Cue applause, drop the mic, walk off the stage. We're done.
Sure, we have come a long way. From the days when my father, a leading real estate inspector in Chicago, couldn't live in certain areas or shop in certain stores, to today, when I can graduate from a leading university, enter the field of media, and truly believe I have a chance to exceed my dreams, a lot has changed.
What if Sterling fights Clippers sale? V. Stiviano: One day I will be president What's next for Donald Sterling?
But, for my generation, there are still real problems. We don't truly understand our history. And too often do we go from captivated to uninterested overnight, distracted by the next shiny object or hot Internet meme.
We Millennials are the "here today, gone tomorrow" type of activists. This is most disappointing because access of information is easier than ever before. You no longer have to be rich or famous to have a voice. Just get a Twitter handle, post to your Instagram page or fire up a WordPress blog.
So the question becomes, what happens next? We cannot simply stand idly by celebrating surface victories while the problems persist. Racism, as with all other prejudices, has to be attacked at the source. It will not become extinct with the passing of the older generations. A new racist is born every minute.
I went to a largely white high school in the western suburbs of Chicago. When I was younger, maybe 10 or 11, I got into a fight with a neighbor kid who had just called me that magic word -- the "N" word. That was in 2000.
Parents intervened, the skirmish ceased, and each of us was swiftly scolded. Now it's quite obvious where he learned the word. He wasn't born saying it; someone had to teach it to him.
That kid is much older now, also in his mid-20s. I haven't seen him since, but I wonder what's in his head now? Is he growing up to become the next Donald Sterling or Cliven Bundy or Paula Deen? Or has time and society shifted his adolescent feelings about me and others like me?
It must be remembered that racism is not an innate trait. It is a learned characteristic. We see it on TV. We hear it on the radio. We watch it coming from our parents. I just hope my generation has made that kind of an education a little less desirable.
Within our generation are the remnants of a time long past. Today, we live in an age of tolerance. Yet everything is moving 100 miles per hour. That's one of the big differences between generations past and Millennials.
For us, technology is a given. But it's also an opportunity. It provides an unprecedented level of exposure and opportunity to interact with others not like ourselves.
In our generation a six-second Vine clip has the potential to become the lead story on the news, and what we do at a party or a game or in school can be celebrated or scorned with the click of a "Like" button.
But we've got next. There is a changing of the guard coming in our society, and our number is coming up.
So now, it falls upon a generation of young people to see the fight through. We are trapped in between two worlds, the new and the old. Our choices will shape the future. It is our duty as a generation to teach ourselves discipline. To know right from wrong, unacceptable from appropriate.
This won't be on Sterling's generation. It will be on us.
It is our duty to wash out the ignorant tendencies of our forebears across the board, regardless of race. Dedication will be required, along with an attention span that lasts longer than 140 characters.
Report CheltenhamRoar July 1, 2014 4:22 PM BST
Btw pa i think Betfair rate the replies themselves.
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 4:26 PM BST
You might be right there CR, i never get a star.
Report CheltenhamRoar July 1, 2014 4:29 PM BST
Nor me,i feel left out.
Report pa lapsy July 1, 2014 4:35 PM BST
How could we anyway,Ozy has them all,not enough left imo. We can only try harder to give a half decent reply in future.
Report Ozymandius July 1, 2014 6:09 PM BST
I did notice that about the stars Pa...only in the last week or so...its not surprising I have a secret admirerLove. Frankly, I am thrilled Silly
Report peckerdunne July 2, 2014 5:10 PM BST
Racism..........What a load of old Boll ox son.........DONT DO IT..........
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