Top Irish trainer facing drugs charges

We got em Sil... we got em.

He may even have a drink to celebrate.

If you have nothing to do on thursday morning Tony be outside Carrick-on-Suir district court , we all have our Suspicions but they say seeing is beliveing.

ph.

I am only guessing and he would make sense because of the prior case with his brother but hardly a leading trainer and why is it on in Carrick on Suir??He trains near Carlow?

There is only one leading jumps trainer that trains near Carrick on Suir and he has previous form but I am not going to start naming out trainers when I would be only guessing.

Pat Hughes hasn't had a winner in 10 months but its probably written by a non-racing journalist,just unusual its on in Carrrick and Suir and he trains in Carlow?.

DJ, if its your guy with the  one initial wrong he has previous with the Dept of Ag.Adjoining county though so may be someone else .

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/case-against-veterinary-inspector-dismissed-1.1618612

A case in which well-known racehorse trainer Patrick Hughes is accused of possession of unauthorised animal remedies was adjourned to December 18th, at Carlow District Court yesterday.

The above is the opening part of this link,the case was adjourned until December 18th at Carlow District Court,
I am not that up to date with court proceedings but would it be normal for court cases to be transferred to different District Courts?

Gigginstown and Barry Connnell

The training career of Philip Fenton hangs in the balance as he faces a court appearance on Thursday on charges of possessing anabolic steroids and other banned substances. The Irishman has had praise heaped on him in recent weeks for the way in which he has been able to revive the careers of Last Instalment and Dunguib, both expected to run at next month's Cheltenham Festival.

It is believed that Fenton denies the charges, though he said he could not discuss the case in detail when contacted by telephone on Monday at his stable at Carrick On Suir, near Waterford. Asked if he would be able to sustain his training operation in the face of such potentially devastating legal proceedings, he laughed and said: "I'm sure I'll be fine".

The first two of the eight charges Fenton faces relate to alleged possession of Nitrotain, a paste which contains the anabolic steroid ethylestranol, and Ilium Stanabolic, which contains the anabolic steroid stanozolol. Ethylestranol and stanozolol were the performance-enhancing drugs which ex-Godolphin trainer Mahmood al-Zarooni was found to have used on his horses when he was banished from racing for eight years last spring.

If found guilty of any one charge, Fenton would be liable to a fine not exceeding ¤5,000 or a term of imprisonment not exceeding six months, or both, according to the Irish Department of Agriculture, which initiated proceedings. The summons dates Fenton's alleged possession at 18 January 2012, suggesting this matter has been hanging over his head for more than two years. He has already appeared in court twice in connection with this matter, though those proceedings have gone unreported.

Potentially the most serious consequences for Fenton would be the reaction of the sport's ruling body. A spokesman for the Irish Turf Club said that, if anyone was found guilty of such charges, disciplinary proceedings would be initiated immediately.

The remaining court charges against Fenton relate to possession of drugs without a relevant prescription, the substances being listed as Engemycin 10%, Neomycin Penicillin, Betamoz LA and Marbocyl 10%. It is understood these drugs are typically used to combat infection in animals.

Fenton made his name with Dunguib, who shocked the Cheltenham Festival crowd in 2009 when winning the Champion Bumper by 10 lengths. Injury problems kept him on the sidelines for almost three years but he won a Grade Two race at Navan on Sunday and is expected to contest a handicap at the Festival next month, when his popularity will ensure he has plenty of backers.

But he is no longer the biggest name in the yard, since Last Instalment is third-favourite for the Cheltenham Gold Cup itself. He recently won the Irish Gold Cup on his second run after an injury-enforced absence of two years. Fenton was thought likely to be a prominent figure at the Festival before this latest news broke, as he also has The Tullow Tank for one of the week's novice hurdle events.

Fenton has run foul of the sport's rules on drugs in the past, when Dunguib was disqualified from a Grade One win at Punchestown in 2009. The horse tested positive for a banned substance, which Fenton said came from worming medicine intended for another horse. The trainer was fined ¤3,000.

Why would people get on here guessing? If you are not sure dj876 or can't enlighten us then keep quiet. I seem to remember you were on here guessing about the Davy Russell sacking as well. "A shut mouth catches no flies"

IF Philip fenton is found guilty does this mean that last Last Instalment may NOT be allowed to take part in the gold cup in cheltenham, i had a good bet on L.I. after his last run, im sure im not the only one.

The gotchee , DJ is correct in his remarks, i think an Apology is in order m8.

there would be quite a few up on that charge paulie if truth be told.....

Bizarre that this was first brought to light in 2012 and the Turf Club are only aware of it in 2014. Trainers should be obliged to self report to their governing body if charges are brought against them

The Turd Club already had all the evidence they wanted but decided to treat the Dunguib case as a mere misdemeanor, when it was plain as anyone with a half a brain cell Fenton was lying through his proverbial teeth,

Thats more like it, dj.

Just a couple of final pieces of info that came to me re: Stanazol and performance

1) Yes it can be beneficial to treat injuries - it increases protein synthesis - and hence you can confidently train your horses that bit harder - but judging the dosage and balance to increased workload is plagued with uncertainty. Far too easy to do more harm than good.

2) A definite negative on continuous usage is that the bulk you see from taking anabolic steroids is not actually lean muscle mass but retained water (a side effect of the increased level of estrogen that accompanies the increased testosterone).

3) If you're not judiciously using something to treat injuries then you have to make continuous use (as I've tried to explain that's a recipe for disaster) because as soon as you stop administering the drug the horse will lose it's gained muscle, and then some .. and will never fulfill it's potential, because the drug has told the body to stop producing testosterone and other muscle building hormones, because the 'natural' level was so artificially high that that whole system went into shutdown, and requires serious treatment to get it back running and in many cases it never does.


Hope you have some faith - I hope the trainer in question here gets jailed and has his licence withdrawn because primarily it's a question of serious animal safety and a stupid / greedy / reckless trainer.

FFS thank you for your informative posts

There are some plonkers on this forum. From the fools yesterday trying to speculate who the trainer was  - dropping hints with initials and getting it wrong, to the fools today who don't even know what the full facts of the case are before they become judge & jury.