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EYE OF THE TIGER and Seven Summits, the first two horses in part of what appears to be a huge gamble, both won to reward their backers and leave bookmakers facing a potentially massive payout.

Four horses with links to former trainer and legendary gambler Barney Curley are among five significant market moves. Curley declined to comment when contacted by the Racing Post.

Paddy Power said they will pay out "the guts of £1 million" if the four win.

Eye Of The Tiger, who was having a first start for Des Donovan having previously been trained by Curley, won easily at evens having been freely available to back at 4-1 this morning. The German Group 2 winner was put in at 10-1 last night.

Donovan said: "We have had him seven months and have had problems with him but he is a genuine horse."

Winning jockey Shane Kelly added: "He was a good horse obviously in his younger days and he's done that well. I sat second to keep it simple. Des thought he'd win. He'd been off a long time obviously and has had his problems, but he felt good today."

The stewards enquired into Eye Of The Tiger's improved form and noted the trainer's explanation that the horse had problems with both his legs and back in the past.

Seven Summits which, like Eye Of The Storm, was previously trained by Curley won at 9-4, having been 7-1 overnight.

Christian Leech, owner of Seven Summits and husband of trainer Sophie Leech said when asked if the winner was part of a Barney Curley gamble said: "I don't know anything about that."

Asked if he had backed the horse, he said: "No. The prize-money is not bad, that will do."

Indus Valley, Low Key and Callisto Light, which unlike the other four does not appear to have a connection to Curley, have all been cut.

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By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 14:53
FULL STORY CAN BE READ IN THE RACING POST
By:
kavvie
When: 22 Jan 14 16:15
lets hope he pulls it off..
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 16:33
INDUS VALLEY HAS JUST WON ..3UP
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 16:35
LOW KEY 6.25 KEMP  ..THE LAST ONE
By:
kavvie
When: 22 Jan 14 16:37
a legend..best of luck to the man..i remember i was a nipper following around one of his agents with a bag of money backing one..doing the line..needless to say i won pulling a cart..
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 16:42
Taking them in chronological order, (6/4 from 4/1) makes his debut for Des Donovan in the 1.30 at Lingfield. The nine year old has been off for 481 days and returns on a handicap mark of 56 having made his British debut for Barney Curley from a rating of 112 just six starts ago.

Just 10 minutes later at Catterick, (2/1 from 11/2) has his second start over hurdles in the colours of former BHA handicapper Christian Leech. His wife, Sophie trains the former Curley inmate and the seven year old shaped with some promise on his first run over hurdles for two years back in June.

The other two runners that have been included in multiples with that pair both go at Kempton this evening with (2/1 from 15/2) set to go to post in the 4.25.

Also trained by Donovan, he hasn't run for 700 days since leaving the care of Irish handler Adrian McGuiness and he is rated just 45 having once been allotted a mark of 90 early in his career.

If those three have all done the business we could be sweating by the time that (5/4 from 10/3) lines up in the 6.25.

Trained by John Butler, a former assistant to Curley, the seven year old is fitted with a visor for the first time on his return from 350 days on the sidelines, racing from a mark of 60 having been allotted a rating of 88 when arriving from France just four starts ago.
By:
newapproach
When: 22 Jan 14 16:42
Had a small yankee and accumalator on the 4 timer this morning, in hope that Barney was going for another one of his legendary coups.

Hope the last leg win for him, he is some legend. Money will help a lot of poor people in Africa.

I also bought my first car yesterday so it would be a big help in covering the cost of that.
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 16:46
HOPE YOU GOT SOME DESENT PRICES NEW..G.LUCK M8Excited
By:
kavvie
When: 22 Jan 14 16:51
bigger prices last night but questionble what level of money would be got on.lets hope he puts them on their knees..specially them snotty nosed reps that appear on atr every day telling lies!!
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 16:55
JUST LOOKING AT UK RACING AT THE MIN ,,MAKE FOR INTERESTING VIEWING[DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCH YOU SITTING]Wink
By:
newapproach
When: 22 Jan 14 17:00
I didn't get the early prices but would still mean a nice payout.

Took 5/4 on the first fella, he returned evns.
Took 7/4 on the second leg, he drifted out to 9/4.
Got 11/8 on third leg, returned 4/6.
Have 4/5 on the last horse, much shorter now 1/3 I think.

Here's hoping he pulls it off, it would be some strokeExcited
By:
poorpup
When: 22 Jan 14 17:17
last one 1/1 on here now
By:
punchestown
When: 22 Jan 14 17:30
1/4 with 3 diff bookies.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Jan 14 17:35
Can,t ever remember seeing the like,(1/4 books,evens exchange) they must be bricking it.
By:
redbait
When: 22 Jan 14 17:41
The bookies are ensuring the SP is as slim as possible to protect shop liabilities at SP. Betfair price is much truer reflection of the horse's chance.
By:
newapproach
When: 22 Jan 14 17:47
Have they included callisto moon in the last @ Kempton as well I wonder?
16/1 this morning, now top price 11/4.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Jan 14 17:50
Yep, the only example i can remember so extreme would be Fujiyama Crest(Dettori,s last one in his 7),sure there would be plenty more to lesser extents. Tending to think now it could be a very big coup with such a reaction, love to see it win.
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 17:53
LOW KEYS FORM IN HIS LAST 4 RACES
    WGT    RACE OUTCOME    JOCKEY    OR    TS    RPR
Video    06Feb13       Sth 16St/Slw C5Hc 2K    9-12    7/7 (90L Scribe 8-8) hp1 20/1    Micky Fenton    67    *    *
Video    09Jan13       Lin 16St C5Hc 2K    9-3    7/8 (4L Honourable Knight 9-2) h1 25/1    Micky Fenton    69    *    *
Video    17Dec12       Wol 12St C6Sl 1K    9-4    4/5 (19½L La Estrella 9-8) p 33/1    Micky Fenton    78    *    *

Video    06Nov12       Sth 11St C6Cl 1K    8-13    5/6 (14½L La Estrella 9-10) 18/1       DOES,NT READ AS A HOT POT DOES ITCrazy
By:
Ozymandius
When: 22 Jan 14 18:28
Boom!
By:
dinglemick
When: 22 Jan 14 18:29
well done New Approach
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 18:29
BOOOOOOM WELL DONE NEWAPPROACHWink
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Jan 14 18:31
Well done Newapproach and whoever orchestrated that gamble, sublime.
By:
newapproach
When: 22 Jan 14 18:33
Thanks lads, some coup by BarneyLaugh
With all the sh1t punters put up with from bookies day in day out, its nice to see them get smashed up now and againExcitedExcitedExcitedExcited
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 22 Jan 14 18:46
The part i like is the long term planing that went in to this coup, MAYBE a film will be made about it some day.
By:
elvissss
When: 22 Jan 14 19:39
WD winners Laugh

Leading bookmakers were quick to downplay any claims of a "multi-million pound bloodbath" after four horses with some link to legendary gambler and former trainer Barney Curley obliged across the country on Wednesday.

The bookmaking industry had been on red-alert from early morning after latching on to the well-backed quartet, all of which were returning from lengthy absences and struck at Lingfield, Catterick and Kempton.

David Williams of Ladbrokes said: "It was a bad day at the office, nothing more and nothing less. We dodged most of the early morning frenzy but you can't stop moving trains and we got caught up in some of it as the day panned out.

"Suggestions of a multi-million pound bloodbath are probably wide of the mark so we're not going to lunge for the violins just yet. Our decision not to price the Kempton races up until as late as possible helped protect us from the worst of it and we certainly weren't exposed to any of the overnight business where most of the fancy prices were snapped up.

"We are satisfied that the systems we have in place at our end are sufficient to protect us as best we can from circumstances like today. Ultimately we have a responsibility to keep on top of the rumours and trade accordingly, which we managed to do."

Coral's David Stevens said: "Although we avoided laying some of the larger prices overnight, we did see a number of multiple bets featuring these four horses both online and in shops, and throughout the day this number increased as word of the gamble that was taking place gathered momentum.

"Once the name Barney Curley was put into the mix - although there is no official confirmation he was involved - there is no question a lot of the bets placed would have been from punters with no knowledge of any plot but who were simply joining in the gamble.

"Victory for all four horses has cost us a six-figure payout, and based on our losses we would estimate the industry has been hit for something in the region of £2million, which although still costly, is perhaps lower than some claims.

"As bookmakers we will take this on the chin as it goes with the business we're in, but we would also look at the bigger picture, racing's share of the betting market is decreasing, and while some punters will have profited from these winners, plenty would have bet against them in good faith, ensuring it's not just the bookies who pay the price on days like these."

First up was Eye Of The Tiger in the 32Red Casino Handicap at Lingfield, eventually going off at even-money and cruising nine lengths clear under Shane Kelly.

Now trained in Newmarket by Des Donovan, Eye Of The Tiger was a German Group Two winner but had not featured in seven starts for Curley, the last of which had been when finishing last of 13 at Haydock in September 2012.

Donovan said: "He's had very bad problems and he won't run under a penalty. I used to work for Mr Curley and I'm in his yard. No-one wanted to buy him and he said 'do what you can with him'

The Lingfield stewards held an inquiry into the apparent improvement in form of Eye Of The Tiger.

Officials heard from Donovan, who stated that the horse had been in his care for seven months having previously been trained by Curley and its absence from the track was due to back problems and a near fore tendon injury.

Having heard his evidence, and received comments from the handicapper, the explanation was noted and Eye Of The Tiger was ordered to be routine tested.

Like Eye Of The Tiger, the Sophie Leech-trained Seven Summits was a former Curley inmate and made no mistake in the yorkshire-outdoors.co.uk Handicap Hurdle at Catterick.

Off the track since finishing third in a novice event at Fontwell in June, the seven-year-old travelled well throughout in the hands of Paul Moloney and while long-time leader Copt Hill pushed him all the way to the line, the 9-4 favourite was on top at the post.

Leech's husband, Christian, told Racing UK: "He's bandaged in exercise and when he's in his stables and we just have to mind him very carefully, that's why he's got so few miles on the clock.

"I didn't (have any money on). Someone just said that (there had been a gamble). He was 7-2, 4-1 in the paper anyway and Tony Carroll's was very well fancied and that was a non-runner, so I'm not sure about that. I don't know."

Indus Valley, also trained by Donovan, landed the third leg of the four in the perceived gamble in the kempton.co.uk Handicap at the Sunbury track, but the 4-6 shot had to work hard to collect.

Seamster was three lengths clear going into the final furlong but Kelly produced a power-packed drive to get the seven-year-old home by half a length on his first run for 700 days.

Donovan was also interviewed by the Kempton stewards, stating that Indus Valley had been trained on his own following a year's break, as he was known to be a hard puller in his previous races, and was better suited by being dropped back to six furlongs. The explanation was noted and the gelding ordered to be routine tested.

All eyes were on Low Key, trained by Curley's former assistant John Butler, in the final leg, division two of the Kempton For Weddings Handicap, and the seven-year-old made no mistake on his first start since finishing seventh of seven over two miles at Southwell last February.

Sent off at 4-7 and racing in a first-time visor, Liam Keniry's mount was always travelling with real purpose in the mile-and-a-half event and cruised up to take a gap at the quarter-mile pole.

Our Golden Girl ran on late but Low Key was a length to the good at the line.
By:
punchestown
When: 22 Jan 14 20:17
Video    06Feb13       Sth 16St/Slw C5Hc 2K    9-12    7/7 (90L Scribe 8-8) hp1 20/1    Micky Fenton    67    *  GrinGrin

Just the 90 lengths...
By:
johnnycool
When: 22 Jan 14 20:32
A few of the UK books very sour over it. Geoff banks being one. It is nice to see that will all their pr and gimmickry that they still can get done. Considering how Joe and mug punter is treated day in day out I find this lovely to watch. On top of the football accas recently there is a little justice after all
By:
Distant View
When: 22 Jan 14 21:23
Gibraltar regulated firms are not paying out apparently. There will be bloody warfare over this.
By:
tobywong.
When: 22 Jan 14 21:50
no surprise there DV with those gangsters!
By:
Colonel Sanders
When: 22 Jan 14 21:52
Distant, on what bloody basis?

Anyone who doesn't bet on cartoon sports and bags can't get paid out on horses?

FFS
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Jan 14 22:02
Total scandal if so, oh boy the squealing has started, all quite happy to let people lose what they have(and haven,t) on the dubious machines of the fobts but someone using such a beautifully executed legitimate gamble they try and squirm out of it, disgrace.
By:
Distant View
When: 22 Jan 14 22:05
They do not come within the rules of the Gambling Commission. If that is the case they should not be allowed to trade or advertise in the UK market.

It is sketchy at the moment but I am hearing that some dude called Phil Brear has issued a hold on all these payments at the moment.
By:
Colonel Sanders
When: 22 Jan 14 22:11
Nonsense, Pa Lapsy agree 100% with what you've written

If they with hold payment how can they be allowed trade. C*nts
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Jan 14 22:26
Thanks Colonel,thats in the UK admittedly(fobts) even so i,m sick sheet of the amount of emails i get for live casino,slots and other silly arcade games, all designed to fleece ya by getting you hooked, no scruples whatsoever with them, bookmakers caught with some very clever person/people today,would have been probably a multiple of the end figure except for their damage limitations by cutting their prices so drastically, can,t see how they can get away with this really unless they try to claim the bets came from the same source,good luck trying to prove that,but think that might be their move.
By:
allways collects
When: 22 Jan 14 22:53
VC first crowd of shi tes to say not paying out, should never be allowed take a bet again..If they price the race up overnight, then take the bets they should be MADE PAYOUT IMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!! BY THE WAY pa lapsy your 100% correct with everything you said !!!
By:
slickster
When: 22 Jan 14 22:55
Curley and his mob a disgrace to racing. Bringing the game deeper into disrepute.
By:
rock piper
When: 23 Jan 14 10:16
That fat little prick that does the PR for Power's was on the RTE wireless this morning claiming they got done for €1M, why does the state broadcaster have to act like part of Power's marketing dept when ever they cover a gambling story, is why we all have to avoid paying the TV licence. I wish somebody in RTE "News" would cop onto the fact that Paddy Power's are a crowd of chickens and they wouldn't lay eggs. Though it has to said at least they are honouring their bets,though they are supposed to have the most sophisticated trading software of any Book and their losses are prolly small,they don't take losing so personally.
By:
reb
When: 23 Jan 14 10:32
rock, what time/programme was the Paddy Power piece on ?
By:
redbait
When: 23 Jan 14 10:59
Paddy was indeed caught for €1m, that is from one of their traders who wouldn't lie to me.
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