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workrider
04 Jan 14 16:57
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think this fellow is a good bet to place tomorrow and have backed it @ 3.3..on here ..Jumped really well first time out at fairyhouse , the winner won well and will probably beat him again tomorrow , but the way he ran was full of promise plus the fact they are willing to take on the Mullins hot pot again is encouraging ...The fact its a course winner is in its favor , hoping the 6lb he receives tomorrow will bring them closer ..Ned Buntline is the sort of horse I like taking on in this type of race , I was not impressed with him at navan and still have a question mark over him , I had him down as one to follow this year , but that run at navan put doubts in my mind ...I might be tempted to bunt Briars   Hill if he becomes any sort of backable price , I think this fellow is going right to the top ..Good luck all punters....
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Report tony57 January 4, 2014 5:03 PM GMT
I  really rate the mullins horse wr..I like you have my doubts about ned...best of luck with the best..no bet race for me @the prices
Report silvergreaser January 4, 2014 5:37 PM GMT
I can see your reasoning workrider with the 6lb pull, Mozoltov already has an easy victory over Ned albeit over hurdles.

But as always with these novice chases anything can happen, watching brief.
Report workrider January 4, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
Tks lads , to me the only real danger to the bet is Ned , so 3.3 in a 2 horse race is worth the risk...
Report one last chance January 4, 2014 8:33 PM GMT
I do believe that the shorties will oblige tomorrow
Report tony57 January 4, 2014 8:51 PM GMT
chute hall owes me...im willing to give it one more go as long as the price is not to short..but ill wait till tomorrow..a deffo bet is RORYS BROTHER..3.00, won lto @limerick..and hogans team are in form..poor race...but at the price hes a bet@4/1
Report silvergreaser January 4, 2014 9:13 PM GMT
Tony agree Chute Hall looks a standout apart from the Roche horse, poor enough contest if ever its going to break its duck its this race, same for Getoutwhenyoucan in the 3.0N, one last chance for this guy with me after 2 runner up spots in similarly poor contests.
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 9:04 AM GMT
Decade Player looks well worth an e.w interest in the 3.00. Switches back to hurdles today after a very promising run in a much better handicap chase at Leop last time out.
Hasn't seemed as good over hurdles as chasing, where he has gained two recent wins, but he is 9lb lower over hurdles, and there could be a valid reason to expect better today. His last run over hurdles was probably his best yet, and though a similar grade to this, was a much better heat, as shown by two winners having come out of it already.
The key to Decade Players best performances, and recent improvement over fences, has been to get him settled, and get him settled in front. Both his chase wins he led all the way, and also led to two out at Leop. In his last hurdle run, he didn't get to the front, yet was still an improvement.
Today I would be surprised if he didn't get quite an easy lead. Rorys brother and Obispo both like to be handy and stay further, so wont want a crawl, but I would think they will be happy to sit in behind Decade Player. This will give him every chance of producing his improved chasing rating, which would suffice in what is essentially a very poor race.
16-1 at moment looks well worth backing.
Report koikeeper January 5, 2014 9:27 AM GMT
I think the trip is far too short for CHUTE HALL, anything with a bit of pace will have it in trouble imo, MOONLIGHT BOY could take the world of beating.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:08 AM GMT
Fav out of race , Mallowney now odds on , not my kind of price , but as the old saying goes , you've made your bed , now you must lay in it...
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:10 AM GMT
Ffs , Urano out now , its getting worse by the minute...
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 10:20 AM GMT
I'm no big fan of Ned Buntline, and wouldn't regard him as Cheltenham Novice standard, but 2.1 today now looks very attractive. He might not have to come of the snaff to beat this lot.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 10:21 AM GMT
Get the feeling Upazo was never going to run as it was due to run at Sandown yesterday, the absence of Mozoltov might be a bit of fuel for the wildman theory workrider, essentially giving the Meade horse a solo.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:22 AM GMT
Question is Callit , is he the horse they think he is  ?
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 10:25 AM GMT
I don't think he is WR, but the horse that I think he is, is more than capable of mopping this up. I wouldn't back him in a sterner test, but this is made for him. Outclassing inferior opposition, and making himself look better than he really he is, is his forte. He will be found out when upped in class, but today shouldn't be that day.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:29 AM GMT
Silvergreaser , Willie said in yesterdays post that they would see how he was after traveling , and they would make a decision ..Looks as if they were not happy with him this morning , and in all honesty who could blame ..I dont think this falls into Wildmanfromborneos theory ...p.s, have a look at the Townend thread over on the main forum and see what Hello has to say about Paulie , its magic....
Report kavvie January 5, 2014 10:30 AM GMT
lads what about very wood to beat briar hill?..briar might not be all hes made out to be.went odds against ir last day v azorian.but for that one making a slow leap 2 or 3 out it might have been closer..the distance will suit v wood also..
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:31 AM GMT
Thats a fair point Callit...
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:37 AM GMT
Sadly for me Kavvie I'd just backed Briar @ 1.61 when they withdrew their other fellow , and my bet  is now  matched at 1.31 1.32 , that is not a price I would ever take ....I should have smelt a rat...
Report wildmanfromborneo January 5, 2014 10:38 AM GMT
My theory only applies in the lower grade races,bumpers and some maiden hurdles.

I think the world and his wife will be out to get Ned Buntline,he will drift,he is a soft looking horse and I hate his sire Refuse To Bend,on a form line with Mozolotov Malowney comes out best.

Authorisation is my nap in the first,owned by Brian Gleeson was caught red handed last time in Naas,got sixty day ban will have to try today and should win.
Report norn iron January 5, 2014 10:41 AM GMT
AUTHORISED  EW RAN WELL BEHIND FLAXEN FLARE

MALLOWENY

BACK IN TIC EW  NAP

CHURCHFIELD CHAMP EW

APACHE STRONGHOLD MIGHT BE SUITED TO THIS SMALL  FIELD( BE QUITE FUNNY  COOPER BEATS GIGGY IN THIS THERE BE LOT THREADS ON ENG FORUM IF HE DOES)

OPISHO EW

CHAMPELON  NB

GOOD LUCK PUNTERS Cool
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 10:46 AM GMT
wildman I'd be a little bit weary as regards Authorisation, I've found down the years horses done for not trying usually run down the field for the next few runs, if it comes out and hoses up after been banned its like admitting the stewards were right.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 10:48 AM GMT
Wildmanfromborneo , no doubt that runner named after a famous jockey in the first , although spelt a little differently , will bring back some nice memories....
Report wildmanfromborneo January 5, 2014 10:56 AM GMT
Mornington was one of the best.

Brian Gleeson was slagged about the stopping by Ted Walsh and admitted the crime,said it will never happen again.
He will try today
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 11:02 AM GMT
Well they've definitely found a poor enough race for it wildman now that Chute is a nr.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 11:03 AM GMT
pot kettle Walsh slagging Gleason don't you think wildman?
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 11:17 AM GMT
Any reason for all the high profile(relatively speaking) non runners? Ground atrocious?
Report kavvie January 5, 2014 11:22 AM GMT
rr has it in for you callit!!
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 11:25 AM GMT
Ha Ha, yeah I seen that. Strange chap. Reasoned argument or logic don't seem to be his cup of tea.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 11:34 AM GMT
Just saw over on the main forum that TERRY BIDDLECOME HAS DIED ...R.I.P.
Report The Gotchee January 5, 2014 11:41 AM GMT
With the fav out of the race I am going to have a sneaky E/W on Golanbrook. Stable going great guns at the moment and the most experienced of the two ahead of him in the market. Don't like the fact that Mallowney had a wind op last year and Meades stable looks like it is hitting it's annual slump.

The other one I am going to have an E/W on,in a poor enough race, is long standing maiden Sir Harry Cash. There is a lot of question marks about everything in the race. He ran well LTO and the drop in trip just might do the trick.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 11:48 AM GMT
Right thats me , off to Naas , good luck all punters ...to all those sitting in at the fire , you lucky so n' so's.....
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 11:53 AM GMT
Good Luck WR. Say the breeze will cut you in two down there today!!
Report pa lapsy January 5, 2014 12:07 PM GMT
Think the 11/4 is big on Lukes Benefit,no world beater but very honest and game, he won well the last day to say he will defy the 6lb,loves the ground which is a big plus,lot of question marks over most of his rivals,can,t see him not being involved at the finish.
Report DECALEC January 5, 2014 12:08 PM GMT
LADS HAVE BACKED MALOWNEY EW @9/1 IF THIS WIN'S AND WITH THE X OUT WILL I HAVE TO PAY ANY MORE MONEYGrin
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 12:17 PM GMT
Backed Lukes myself Pa.
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 12:18 PM GMT
Also had few quid e.w on Tawseef at 8s in the 1st. Awful race.
Report pa lapsy January 5, 2014 12:23 PM GMT
Thats certainly not a negative Callit,tis an obvious one but had him a fair bit less on my prices, way the golf is going he,d be a welcome winner. GL all.
Report callitasucit January 5, 2014 12:40 PM GMT
Didn't see that race. Tawseed 2nd? Done at 1.54. Place money landed, but would have been nice start.
Report huddys January 5, 2014 12:42 PM GMT
Well done Wildman good call,
Report pa lapsy January 5, 2014 12:44 PM GMT
Wildmans nap won it in a canter,fav Moonlight Boy was unrideable,just went way right around the turns and the flights.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
I suppose the Roche horse will be routine dope tested?, ran as if it didnt know where it was, there is going out to the right but that was as extreme as it gets.
Report elvissss January 5, 2014 1:03 PM GMT
Agree re Lukes Pa and callit - won easy the last day - decent price today

Nice nap by the wildman
Report roadrunner46 January 5, 2014 1:37 PM GMT
WD  ned buntline has a useless pedigree for a jumps horse, compared to MALLOWNEY whos a well bred type by the formidable OSCAR.
Report frankalsoran60 January 5, 2014 1:56 PM GMT
nice call w.r
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 2:03 PM GMT
Thats 2 soft graded races that Mullins found for Briar Hill, I'd have absolutely no problem opposing this guy once the competition hots up, pity Apache Stronghold was withdrawn at Navan as I was looking forward to having a nice bet on him to beat Briar Hill that day.
Report tony57 January 5, 2014 2:11 PM GMT
welldone wr..and nice call pa...the boys in form..
Report tony57 January 5, 2014 2:20 PM GMT
I have to say ned is not good enough atm hes still a young horse..but ive never fancied him..he cost me time before last..but glad to say I went with wr..today..
Report tony57 January 5, 2014 2:30 PM GMT
carnt have the mullins runner here..not backing any !  but will lay chiltern
Report kavvie January 5, 2014 2:36 PM GMT
good call tony it was a ridiculous price anyway..
Report Distant View January 5, 2014 2:37 PM GMT
Very Wood being aimed at the handicap hurdle at Fairyhouse won by similarly tenderly ridden Quito De La Roque before he won it?
Report tony57 January 5, 2014 2:38 PM GMT
agreed kav,..price far too short for what its done..im not a layer..very rare for me..but that was a nap..imo..(easy with hindsight I know)
Report kavvie January 5, 2014 2:38 PM GMT
hes being aimed at something apart from today for sure dv...one to keep an eye on
Report walllace007 January 5, 2014 3:07 PM GMT
The Crawfords are one shrewd outfit.. Operating at well over a 50% strikerate in the last 14 days..
Report kingrat January 5, 2014 3:25 PM GMT
got word for  martin's horse in the last this morning,was told it would piss in.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 3:28 PM GMT
Regardless if you thought Chiltern Hills was a lay Tony but it still should have run a lot better than that stinker today it was after all the 2nd fav? ,Kavvie maybe right probably up to no good with this fellow, some long term plan in the offing?.

Will the stewards even ask?.
Report pa lapsy January 5, 2014 3:30 PM GMT
When you got word this morning he was 7/2-3/1, 6/4 now. Considering you posted on the giggy thread a few hours earlier tis a bit late to be saying it now,if indeed you got word for it at all and are now only following the market. Rat
Report Goretski January 5, 2014 3:31 PM GMT
the bowe's horse beats it anyway Mischief
Report kingrat January 5, 2014 3:35 PM GMT
Cry
Report Arklearkle January 5, 2014 3:37 PM GMT
You got a great imagination Silver.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 3:40 PM GMT
Why would I need an imaginaton arkle surely questions need to be asked when a 2nd fav  is pulled up before they barely went halfway around?
Report Arklearkle January 5, 2014 3:47 PM GMT
Half the horses running in most races not off a yard and you never say a word. WM runs one of his worst animals and you are asking questions. Have you never wondered how come he wins so few handicaps relative to his non handicap wins while one has other establishments horses suddenly coming alive in big handicaps and not a squeak from you.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
Might not be his best but its certainly nowhere near his worst arkle, 2 runs ago this horse beat Cailin Annamh cosily the r/up is unbeaten in 4 starts since.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 4:20 PM GMT
TOUGH going there today for both man and beast , call it aftertiming if ye want , backed the first winner , went down from the stands and took 3/1 about Gleesons , missed 10/30 , after noting the fav unship Walsh , the fav looked as if it was all a bit much for him , the strong breeze seemed to unsettle this fellow , you can forget this run from this lad ...Mallowney was very impressive and jumped like a stag , one to keep on the right side of in this type of race , more to come from this fellow ..Briar Hill was impressive , Ruby thought him a lot today , his jumping improved immensely , he was much quicker away from his hurdles today than previously ...He could be anything , and looks the sort to find more when asked ..
Report Arklearkle January 5, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
Perhaps you should have a look at Cailin Annamh so rather than Chiltern Hills but you obviously dont see anything wrong with her form. Despite that result Cailin A is still rated about a stone higher (over hurdles) than Chiltern Hills which says plenty about that race. There may have been excuses for Cailin A for all we know that day but it is obviously not correct to judge Chiltern H on that run/result. I agree there should always be questions asked when a fancied one runs badly.
Report snap crackle and pop January 5, 2014 4:49 PM GMT
Not sure what race you were watching if you thought Briar Hill was impressive...
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 4:49 PM GMT
Even allowing for that arkle the horse has plenty of other form that would have given it every chance in todays race but ran like a hairy goat pulled up when the rank outsiders were still going, I didn't have a bet in the race but I guarantee many thousands in betting shops and on online backed the horse, might as well have wiped their backside with the docket before the race even started.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 5:07 PM GMT
I have to agree snap workriders idea of impressive is different to ours.

This wouldn't have went off anywhere near 25/1 for the Champion Bumper if they thought it was the real deal, most likely one of those flukes you see from time to time in racing?.
Report workrider January 5, 2014 5:08 PM GMT
Snap , he did what he had to do today without been asked a serious question , read what i said , HE WILL ALWAYS FIND MORE WHEN ASKED , he is still on a learning curve ..You dont have to win doing handsprings to be impressive...
Report Arklearkle January 5, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
I back many/plenty of WMs runners but Chiltern Hills would nearly be the last one of his I would touch and I made that decision way back and dont intend to ever back it in the future. I dont know you from Adam but its obvious you enjoy/love the sport and it is great that you highlight wrongs as you see them but it annoys me a little bit that WM and APOB can do no right in your eyes and yet every shyster in the sport can do whatever they like and we hardly ever hear a squeak from you. But I certainly dont lose any sleep over it either but I do enjoy the banter.
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 5:26 PM GMT
Arkle cmon I'd be the first to get stuck into the likes of Byrnes, Martin, Elliot etc, but don't tell me that a Mullins is squeaky clean?, the name Mullins alone is synonymous with skullduggery.

I highlight the Coolmore and Mullins ones because everyone else sees no wrong in them , all I hear from punters and media alike is how wonderful they are.

I guarantee you Chiltern Hills is an awful lot better than he showed today and this is far from an isolated case as regards the untouchable one.

If Byrnes trained Chiltern Hills I bet there would've been a lot more reaction on this forum.
Report Arklearkle January 5, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
There may/may not have been more reaction had it been someone else's but it is unlikely that the reaction would have come from yourself. The best thing I can say is we will have to agree to differ.
Report snap crackle and pop January 5, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
If being all out to beat Apache Jack is impressive in your book then fair enough, but imo if he comes up against anything with a modicum of ability in the near future he will be found out
Report Arklearkle January 5, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
I see The Lilliewhites had a big win today I would have thought that might have cheered you up!
Report punchestown January 5, 2014 5:54 PM GMT
Briar Hill reminds me of a Boston Bob type horse who will only ever do enough and will probably never win on the bridle,I'd say he's been expensive for the in running layers to date with his style of running/winning.

I haven't gone near it to date but while the jury is still out on its Festival Bumper success I would be loathe to lay it (particularly in running).
Report moneyforoldrope January 5, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
Wd WR.



as this for this

roadrunner46
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WD  ned buntline has a useless pedigree for a jumps horse, compared to MALLOWNEY whos a well bred type by the formidable OSCAR.


some clownCrazy
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
You know arkle I forgot about that game, I heard the wind and rain howling outside my sitting room window so I cuddled up on the couch for the afternoon, not a competition I'm overly bothered about, personally I'd scrap it altogether if I had my way.
Report Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods January 5, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
silvergreaser     05 Jan 14 17:26 
the name Mullins alone is synonymous with skullduggery.


Any hard evidence to back-up this frankly ludicrous statement?
Report silvergreaser January 5, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
Ask your Father and your Grandfather.
Report dinglemick January 5, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
Plenty of winners tipped up today well done all ...

I would defo be in agreement with workrider with regards Briar Hill ... Give me a horse that keeps finding for you anyday over a bridal horse .. How some people keep knocking  a horse who is unbeaten including the cheltenham bumper with the likes of The Liquadator and Regal Encore behind is beyond me , just because ruby isn t swinging off him and he races lazily at times .... Trainer and Jockey are always at pains to say he works ordinary at home hence why he was probably 25/1 for the cheltenham bumper last year .....
Report kingrat January 5, 2014 9:03 PM GMT

Jan 5, 2014 -- 3:30PM, pa lapsy wrote:


When you got word this morning he was 7/2-3/1, 6/4 now. Considering you posted on the giggy thread a few hours earlier tis a bit late to be saying it now,if indeed you got word for it at all and are now only following the market. Rat


sorry old pa,i had to get the price.its was nothing personal tbf.i was just passing on a bit of info after i got on.

Report richters January 5, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
course ye did....and dont tell me....ye laid off at 5/4.....
Report kingrat January 5, 2014 9:09 PM GMT
and?LaughLaughLaugh
Report pa lapsy January 5, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
You woke up Rat,you were on the forum all day, a scummy post you made just before the race,you got no info whatsoever,you just followed the market,the info bit is pure bolluxology designed to show yourself in a better light,the 21.03 post is a continuation ie "i had to get the price",nonsensical as you supposedly were after getting it. It shows you up for what you are.
Report kingrat January 5, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
fyi old pa,i never follow markets.i got a phone call this morning from a guy in the game.this guy is only interested in taking a slice of the action and also i know where the info is coming from.so i say,cheers and get on at the right price.what i do after that is my own buissness.i was just passing on the info,u dont have to act or not on it.
Report pa lapsy January 5, 2014 10:36 PM GMT
I never realised you were so well connected to be getting information out of all people, Martin,s yard.
Report kingrat January 5, 2014 10:38 PM GMT
whatever m8WinkWinkLaughLaugh
Report norn iron January 6, 2014 9:48 AM GMT
FFS GOT HOME FOR CHRISTENING SEE CHAMELON WIN BUMPER SO WENT WATCH REPLAYS ON MY OTHER 3 IN YANKEE AUTHORIZATION  MALLOWNEY  AND SWORE HAD ALL FOUR UP WHEN BACK IN TIC  WAS LEADING RAN HONEST RACE AGAIN .

WR I AGREE THAT BRIARS HILL COULD BE SUPER HORSE  AS I NO APACHE STRONGHOLD IS VERY WELL THOUGHT OFF BY CONNECTIONS  AND WILL WIN LOTS RACES  AN BRIAR HILL PROVED HE LIKES A BATTLE AND THAT IS PROPER HORSE NOT BRIDLE PROSPRCT

FAIR PLAY YU STUDYING HARD KEEP FOCUSED AND THIS GOOD RUN WIL CONTINUE

COUPLE EW STONEY/ COUNTESS MARGERITA

HOPE GET BIG PRICES ON LETTER OF CREDIT THINK THIS SMALL FIELD SUIT HIM IN TACTICAL AFFAIR 

WILD DAY UP HERE  NO HOLY WATER YESTERDAY  BUT DEFINITLY NO DRINK Happy
Report workrider January 6, 2014 9:54 AM GMT
Dont tell lies big fella , I heard they were calling you Father Norn as you left the church....Laugh
Report norn iron January 6, 2014 10:06 AM GMT
100% TRUE THE PRIEST WAS A PRODESTANT WHO LEFT AT YOUNG AGE TO JOIN CATHOLIC CHURCH ( IVE BEEN IN MORE CHAPELS THAN CHURCHS )BUT THE HOUSE OF GOD WELCOMES EVERYONE INCLUDING   UKIP SUPPORTERS Devil
Report workrider January 6, 2014 10:08 AM GMT
I heard you asked for a SILENT collection....Laugh
Report norn iron January 6, 2014 10:12 AM GMT
DevilLaughWILL THURLES BE ON GALES UP HERE AN WOULDNT PUT A celtic shamrock  SUPPORTER OUT IN THAT  Grin
Report roadrunner46 January 6, 2014 1:28 PM GMT
wheres wally the clown ?, mythical high rollerLaugh who knows nothing about pedigrees
Report CheltenhamRoar January 11, 2015 2:48 PM GMT
Skates in today....
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