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23 Dec 13
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Everything about this organisation is wrong,it has heaped an outrageous debt burden on Ireland ( admittedly helped by our duplicitous politicians ) consistently ignored democracy and has been pillaged by a ruling elite.
It channelled millions into the last Lisbon referendum whilst screaming the house down about the pittance spent on the no side.they can't publish accounts because they are dynamite showing disgraceful salaries and expenses.
We won't bother to mention Manet professors.
Dennis Macshane the former Minister of Europe jailed for six months for fraud,Vicky Price and her husband spent some time on jail too,two other champions of Europe.
We should leave the EU take back our seas,invest in mariculture,form some loose alliance with Norway and exploit our mineral wealth,explore the potential of wave power.
It channelled millions into the last Lisbon referendum whilst screaming the house down about the pittance spent on the no side.they can't publish accounts because they are dynamite showing disgraceful salaries and expenses.
We won't bother to mention Manet professors.
Dennis Macshane the former Minister of Europe jailed for six months for fraud,Vicky Price and her husband spent some time on jail too,two other champions of Europe.
We should leave the EU take back our seas,invest in mariculture,form some loose alliance with Norway and exploit our mineral wealth,explore the potential of wave power.
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Borneo, you should try letting off some steam at Speakers Corner in London.
The EU is a self serving gravy train, which has disgracefully expanded in scope far beyond it's original laudable aim of free trade.
Whether we are better off in or out at this stage is open for debate. The UK referendum will bring the related issues into sharp focus and make for an interesting discussion.
The EU is a self serving gravy train, which has disgracefully expanded in scope far beyond it's original laudable aim of free trade.
Whether we are better off in or out at this stage is open for debate. The UK referendum will bring the related issues into sharp focus and make for an interesting discussion.
How do you propose we will finance our €14 billion current budget deficit?
Oh ya we will depreciate our non existent currency,which even if we had one you had to hold a vast volume in foreign currency reserves to fend off the hedge fund vultures or the country would be entrenched in Hyperinflation!!
More dreamland, idealist crap!!
Oh ya we will depreciate our non existent currency,which even if we had one you had to hold a vast volume in foreign currency reserves to fend off the hedge fund vultures or the country would be entrenched in Hyperinflation!!
More dreamland, idealist crap!!
I am against free trade,against globalisation and against the tyranny of the market.
Here is how you finance the current deficit.
No pension over 50 grand allowed
No carbon taxes.
No foreign aid.
No welfare or pension cheque allowed leave the country.
Scrap free legal aid.
Scrap the quangos.
Scrap salaries for senators.
Scrap salaries for County Councillors.
Scrap all lump sum payments to retiring employees.
Make misfortune non compensatable
That should do it.
Here is how you finance the current deficit.
No pension over 50 grand allowed
No carbon taxes.
No foreign aid.
No welfare or pension cheque allowed leave the country.
Scrap free legal aid.
Scrap the quangos.
Scrap salaries for senators.
Scrap salaries for County Councillors.
Scrap all lump sum payments to retiring employees.
Make misfortune non compensatable
That should do it.
Like trying to buy a thoroughbred with contents of a kid's piggybank.
Wildman,
I can only go so far with you on this one...I was all for us going into the euro many years ago when I lived in Holland,..but as oz said it has gone far beyond its remit and im glad Gordon brown kept us out,..but im not sure we should get out or not ..as oz has also said it will be interesting to see the REAL ARGUMENTS..im favouring a get out vote..but im not sure..but as for..no compo for all?..no legal aid?..no green taxes?..im sorry Wildman..i know what you mean..but that's a step too far..this tory government are destroying the fabric of our society..we already have 1 million having to use food banks because of benefit cuts(right or wrong) its now impossible to get legal aid here unless its a criminal offence(e.g..you used to be able to get a lawyer to take you on to fight the government for benefits or council tax etc..now you carnt) the c.a.b...are inundated and you wait 7-8 mths to see them?..poverty here is now a lot more visable..the bed room tax has helped the rise in homelessness..
I understand Wildman..but you don't want the extremes mate I promise you
I can only go so far with you on this one...I was all for us going into the euro many years ago when I lived in Holland,..but as oz said it has gone far beyond its remit and im glad Gordon brown kept us out,..but im not sure we should get out or not ..as oz has also said it will be interesting to see the REAL ARGUMENTS..im favouring a get out vote..but im not sure..but as for..no compo for all?..no legal aid?..no green taxes?..im sorry Wildman..i know what you mean..but that's a step too far..this tory government are destroying the fabric of our society..we already have 1 million having to use food banks because of benefit cuts(right or wrong) its now impossible to get legal aid here unless its a criminal offence(e.g..you used to be able to get a lawyer to take you on to fight the government for benefits or council tax etc..now you carnt) the c.a.b...are inundated and you wait 7-8 mths to see them?..poverty here is now a lot more visable..the bed room tax has helped the rise in homelessness..
I understand Wildman..but you don't want the extremes mate I promise you
The EU will split very shortly into a 2 tiered union.It all comes down to a lack of a banking union.As the EU has been dithereing and are now contemplating implementing negative interest rates,The US acted decisively led by Bernanke and implemented their QE program,initially consisting of $5 billion dollars per day of MBS to successfully open the bank funding channel.
US unemployment -7%,Annual growth 2.5 %. Euro Zone Unemployment = 12%,3r quarter growth = .1%
Now there are some believe that the US's monetary policy could assist in the next asset bubble but they should be commended for acting decisively.As for the Euro Zone,half the area is constrained in the liquidity trap and faces a decade of stagnation. A lot of this was caused by the German's insistence of continuing the pact for stability and growth (a pro cyclical fiscal policy in recessionary times is absurd) and their fear of hyperinflation which has meant a lack of any credible monetary policy.
As for Ireland we have o control over our monetary or fiscal policy and are sailing rudderless,Ireland's GDP is €169 billion with a €14 billion deficit.I suggest you read about Soros's attack in eastern Asia in the late 90's,I would conservatively estimate that we need €400 billion in foreign currency reserves to be secure.I think your County Council style changes will have to be shelved.
US unemployment -7%,Annual growth 2.5 %. Euro Zone Unemployment = 12%,3r quarter growth = .1%
Now there are some believe that the US's monetary policy could assist in the next asset bubble but they should be commended for acting decisively.As for the Euro Zone,half the area is constrained in the liquidity trap and faces a decade of stagnation. A lot of this was caused by the German's insistence of continuing the pact for stability and growth (a pro cyclical fiscal policy in recessionary times is absurd) and their fear of hyperinflation which has meant a lack of any credible monetary policy.
As for Ireland we have o control over our monetary or fiscal policy and are sailing rudderless,Ireland's GDP is €169 billion with a €14 billion deficit.I suggest you read about Soros's attack in eastern Asia in the late 90's,I would conservatively estimate that we need €400 billion in foreign currency reserves to be secure.I think your County Council style changes will have to be shelved.
dj, what's stopping the EU from copying the US's policy of QE?
You have to start somewhere,we have already accepted a reduction to our standard of living.
Tony57 why should any state pay people to sue them,that's a nonsense promoted by a rapacious legal profession.
The people that sneer at these things are the ones with a vested interest,guarantee DJ 876 is in this category.
Tony57 why should any state pay people to sue them,that's a nonsense promoted by a rapacious legal profession.
The people that sneer at these things are the ones with a vested interest,guarantee DJ 876 is in this category.
No Banking Union and for QE to be successful you need to have a functioning bank funding channel (the $5 billion of MBS per day) to enable the portfolio rebalance channel.This was highlighted by the first QE program implemented by Japan in 2001 when in spite of vast Gilt bond purchases-there was only a negligible increase in the broad money supply.The 5 year delay has now exacerbated the problem,QE would be unsuccessful in the EU because the banks aren't properly capitalised and legacy debts have not yet been fully recognised.A beautiful part of the American QE has been the obvious depreciation in the dollar which has enraged the Chinese because of the amount of American debt they own.
Interesting times ahead however as tapering begins-it's a lot easier to buy assets than it is to sell them,according to Equity Q and CAPE -American equities are currently over valued by at least 40%
Interesting times ahead however as tapering begins-it's a lot easier to buy assets than it is to sell them,according to Equity Q and CAPE -American equities are currently over valued by at least 40%
I am not suggesting that they're overvalued by 40% but both valuation techniques do(both have flawed aspects however)
The jargon of someone with his snout well and truly in the trough.
Wildman,
you have to have rights /..how can a poor man fight a rich man..with no help?...you have to have a independent person to look at whatever it is...but for example..if you disabled and poor..but worked all your life paid your taxes etc...should you not have the right to get help if you need it?..thats what we have here now...im not for they way it was Wildman..but these tory ****s have gone full circle..now its no justice if you carnt afford it..how is it right that a man worth millions tells people on £100 wk how to live..?..and as for green taxes..your not saying that there is no global warming are you Wildman..?
you have to have rights /..how can a poor man fight a rich man..with no help?...you have to have a independent person to look at whatever it is...but for example..if you disabled and poor..but worked all your life paid your taxes etc...should you not have the right to get help if you need it?..thats what we have here now...im not for they way it was Wildman..but these tory ****s have gone full circle..now its no justice if you carnt afford it..how is it right that a man worth millions tells people on £100 wk how to live..?..and as for green taxes..your not saying that there is no global warming are you Wildman..?
Wildman you don't like being contradicted,when you're unable to argue the points,you turn to playing the man.
If you in Brigid Laffan style fashion want to conceal something then you are fair game.
I hide nothing and have no problem with posters criticising what I do or my family circumstances.
I hide nothing and have no problem with posters criticising what I do or my family circumstances.
The jargon of someone with his snout well and truly in the trough.
Oh the irony, Borne fails to understand the terminology being used, cannot mount a sensible counter-argument so reverts to insulting the poster
Oh the irony, Borne fails to understand the terminology being used, cannot mount a sensible counter-argument so reverts to insulting the poster
Wildman even gets his insults wrong, his spelling of Koalemos was something i got a great kick out of. 
As someone said above your out of your depth Wildman !
As someone said above your out of your depth Wildman !
I can recognise civil service speak,that's what it was.
I can also recognise verbiage and would refer you to his return post which is a fine example of it.
I can also recognise verbiage and would refer you to his return post which is a fine example of it.
Why not just admit, Borneo, that when it comes to the nuances of QE, as discussed by dj you are out of your depth and cannot follow?
Your responses to our economic position are Healey-Rae like and frankly embarrassing and rooted in your own neurotic bugbears. You have no understanding of the numbers involved nor the wider repercussions.
The suggestions might impress the local codgers beside you on the bar stool, but they are not suitable for wider publication.
Your responses to our economic position are Healey-Rae like and frankly embarrassing and rooted in your own neurotic bugbears. You have no understanding of the numbers involved nor the wider repercussions.
The suggestions might impress the local codgers beside you on the bar stool, but they are not suitable for wider publication.
Just because his verbiage fooled you,you even asked him a craven supine question that was Garth Crooks like,don't think it fooled me.
It's strange that I have never heard you discuss the merits of otherwise of QE, something that has far greater bearing on our economic passage than the 'pot-hole' filling type topics that you blather on about 
Its something we can do nothing about,we are stuck in the Euro.
The economists themselves are divided on quantative easing.
My proposals are away of getting our spending under control something we can actually do.
The economists themselves are divided on quantative easing.
My proposals are away of getting our spending under control something we can actually do.
Your propsals are uncosted and amount to SFA. No thought is give to the obvious moral consequences.
QE by the Eu does happen albeit in a different manner that the US for example. Japan/Us style QE is possible going forward although there are barriers to overcome
QE by the Eu does happen albeit in a different manner that the US for example. Japan/Us style QE is possible going forward although there are barriers to overcome
Uncosted.
Its only a discussion but there are billions of savings there.
What moral consequences are there in curtailing the legal profession or challenging the fraudsters.
Its only a discussion but there are billions of savings there.
What moral consequences are there in curtailing the legal profession or challenging the fraudsters.
Even Tony came up with consequences ffs!
You seem incapable of backing up any of your opinions with facts or statistics. More interest in bluster than fact.
You seem incapable of backing up any of your opinions with facts or statistics. More interest in bluster than fact.
a productive day for Ozy. sat here replying to every Wildman post on thread after thread.
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