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Kelly
19 Dec 13 14:02
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Wonder if anyone has done sums on this ?

Assuming it gets a capacity crowd seldom , how are revenues going to be generated ?

It is , will be , Antrims home ground . Last time Antrim turned up anything approaching a capacity crowd was back in the forties . So its neutral supporters needed to fill the place , once a year maybe if they get an Ulster final ?

Is it just a case of people sensing there is a bottomless bucket out there to prove  that Northern Ireland is all things to all men ( which it will never be until a certain course of action takes place ). Political horse trading , one for me , one for you , Britain is paying ( presumably ).

The residents are making noises , wonder if a bit of compo for light loss might quiet them down . Did the Croker neighbours get any concessions post development ?

While I think Casement needs a bit of an upgrade , 76 million seems an awful lot when A & E facilities , hospitals and the like services are deteriorating daily due to squeezes on funding .

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Distant View
When: 19 Dec 13 16:16
Not to mention it is the final nail in the coffin for the town of Clones.
By:
1.01's no fun
When: 19 Dec 13 16:27
And this is how it looks when completed,if it ever is....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRSwZXUpiXE
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Kelly
When: 19 Dec 13 19:30
Haven't checked that out , 1.01 .  I have no doubt it will look splendid , it's a good site and I have played there more times than I can recall , it is the overall concept I query .

Belfast has always had a good if not always successful ( winning wise ) input to GAA matters . As Casement is in Antrim ( as against Down ) mainly , the main interest in Casement comes from Antrim .  I remember when it was being set up , some of my fathers friends had a lot of input into it initially and it was a welcome addition to the GAA fold , as previous venues ( Corrigan Park  mainly) were not as viable for development ( played a lot there too ) .

Cannot see Casement ever competing with Clones for atmosphere for an Ulster Final . Clones is basically unapproachable unless you are prepared for a day out , which I have always been , join in and soak up the atmosphere win or lose and throw a few bob to the locals for their efforts .  Keeps the town going , fair play to them . Many happy days there .

But £76 million might be better spent in other ways if anyone got a clean canvas with Casement only a part of it .

Sharing a "national Northern Ireland Stadium " might be hard ( maybe impossible ) to achieve  , but soccer , rugby , GAA could all share a 50,000 seater somewhere to better advantage if they all took a look at it without prejudice .  That surely would make more sense . And be a better fit overall .
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li
When: 22 Dec 13 20:52
Atmosphere at 1969 Ulster Final at Casement was comparable to any Clones final I've been to.
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Kelly
When: 22 Dec 13 23:33
Casement is fine with me , li , but it has been through a lot of hoops since 1969 . Where an Ulster final is played should be partly determined by the 2 teams in the final . I was in Cavan and Monaghan over last 3 days  , was travelling lateish at night through parts of both counties , saw about 2 cars in the hour or so traversing the counties .  When I came across the border there was traffic( relatively) all the way until I reached my destination in Fermanagh . Trade .

The country towns throughout Ireland need any help they can get to survive .  Otherwise they will wilt and die , and I am not sure we will be the better for that . So I would be loth to take the Ulster final away from Clones other things being equal . And its not just the final , there are a lot of other match days there too which might be shifted .
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