Money For Michaella

For once, Borneo, your stance has merit.  Most peculiar, are you feeling ok?

My reply is to Rocketfingers who is now Mrs Thatcher like in his lack of need of sleep.

we dont know the full facts of this case so i would refrain from condemning people you know nothing about

i have no idea what happened..........surely they are not that stupid to volantarily carry kilos of cocaine onto a plane in south america......if your caught, your completely f u c k e d

Think her hair stylist should make a big donation...

If she is found guilty which i will be stunned if she isn't, RTE should get the criticism it would richly deserve, not really a position the national broadcaster should be getting involved in.
Notice your opening post is gone again Wildman,you were saying what every one else thinks.Shame.

It is the like of this young lad that deserves these RTE campaigns.

What a horrible set of blows he has been dealt.

http://oscarknox.blogspot.co.uk/

Of course Distant View,and young Oscar isn't alone with these debilitating conditions,it is more in RTE line to highlight these very deserving people rather than what looks like at the moment a misguided,though unproven drug smuggler.

what is the point leaving up a thread if the first post or the main reply is taken down.

I have been following this case closely as I have spent 90% of my holiday time in Ibiza. I have been there over a 100 times now.
There are 2 main papers in the UK following it i.e the Mirror and the Mail and both have almost opposing stories on what happened.

This is arguably the first "drug Mule" story to catch the wider audience since the full advent of social Media and "on the spot" reporting and if one is to compare both papers above there are Journalists that should be going to jail for the lies they are reporting/printing.

It is actually a fascinating story and I think the truth has yet to be printed.

The only comment I will make is that 1 month (both girls went on the Island at the start of July and were arrested start of August) is not a long time so 90% of the stories that have been printed to date, including "live interviews" are not true imo.
My only factual point is that there is an interview by the mail with the Mother of the Scottish Girl where the Mum states that she had been in contact with her on Facebook up until the night before she was arrested. If that is true then everything else we have been told is false.

"Mr Reid said he had no major concerns about his daughter going to Spain because she had never been in trouble before.

‘The biggest problems we had ever had with our children was them having a couple too many drinks. Melissa was a good girl,’ he said. ‘She worked hard and went to bed at 9pm on weeknights.

'She went out at weekends, but she was just like most girls her age. I never worried about her taking drugs in Ibiza because it wasn’t on our radar. Her friends here say she never did them.’

Miss Reid stayed in regular contact with her parents and last wrote to them via Facebook the day before she was arrested to discuss which clothes her mother could clear out of her wardrobe"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2391393/Peru-cocaine-arrests-British-girls-claimed-kidnapped-forced-smuggle-drugs.html#ixzz2c9Yaz4IV
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I fully and completely agree with lustrumm's opening line. On another thread re- JP Murtagh and 'bad rides', I posted, and it was quickly removed by whoever. Having followed JPM for years even in his stint over hurdles, I think I wrote nothing that was new, or not known. Actually what I wrote was known knowns, and not unknown knowns. (see Donald Rumsfeld).

I'm all for the conspiracy theory in this instance with these two cailin's, and I have no problem in putting a few euros their way to help them get home. We all so sadly saw the shambles that took place in Mauritius, and I'm pretty sure that its pretty much the same law/justice system in most of these foreign lands..

In any event I have now for a few years contributed to the huge salaries of Dail Eireann members which disgracefully consists of, tax dodgers, liars, (isn't that what we do Rabbitte), broken promises (Varadkar), and broken pledges (Quinnie), contribute to the salary of the Minister that turned the Revenue on his own law abiding people, and continue to contribute to the huge pensions of failed politicians and bankers, and to the wages of failed developers through Nama. So a few bob to help these girls get home to their parents is not an issue for me.

Who gives a toss,if she wasn't a model and was a 20 something year old from the slums do u think this story would even make the news??

silly comment chelts?..ofcourse it would make the news?..the press lap this stuff up!may I ask do you have kids chelts?..if you do then I,d be surprised if you didn't have a little bit of thought for there parents at least?

well said gotchee, some of us may agree or disagree with what will happen to them..but you make a valid point,

fair enough chelts,..I just pointed out that I thought you were a bit harsh,..i personally don't believe these girls were forced on to the plane..but that doesn't mean they weren't?but as isaid whether they were or were not..they will do their time in peru...so its there parents who look to me to be in shock..and distraught as any parent would.

I don't believe the kidnap story but its probably the best defence the girls could have come up with. If the girls had come up with any other story it would be easily discredited. For example if they said they knew nothing about the drugs in their bags I think it would soon be established that their movements and itinery in Peru were not those of tourists. It would not be very believable that they went to Peru of all places for a holiday and spent their time not doing what you would expect from holiday makers.

My money would be on that they rehearsed some story in advance if they were caught.

another load of lives ruined by the ridiculous 'war on drugs'

neill d     17 Aug 13 03:12  
Load of men of a generation, ripping the s h i t out of a young wan who got caught out, pity the lot of ye (and the woeful scribes of that time) hadn't yer beedy eyes on Fianna Fail and the banks 10 or 15 years ago. personally, I hope they send her a few quid, no harm in it. The punishment doesn't fit the crime in this instance.

Neil I thought I'd copy and paste your reply which you accidentally posted on another thread.

Naivety is not a defence when in the eyes of the law the 2 girls are adults and responsible for their own actions.

If you ever looked at that program Banged Up Abroad?, there are loads of similar cases of naive people looking for a fast buck and none of them ever received the media attention that this case is, if in fact they received any media attention at all?.

Fine you can feel for their families suffering but many other families have went through the same ordeal but had to face the facts that their childs stupidity not the law is why they were put in that situation in the first place.

In all honesty if they were caught in some other country with that amount of drugs they  would be facing a lot longer prison term, they'll probably do at most 3 to 4 years which is extremely lenient considering the offence so on that basis they can actually thank their lucky stars and will still have a long life ahead of them when released.

Foreigners are often treated more leniently in these countries because of diplomatic pressure.

Some moderator has it in for wildman or gets some sort of sadistic pleasure by removing them?, its usually only wildmans first posts that are removed, more often than not just harmless opinions.

In this case wildman showed his displeasure at RTE for calling for people to donate to the girls defence, what the hell is wrong with that?.