........... TAPESTRY ..........

Well done WR, you are giving ratfingers some hammering today after his crowing of his 4/11 winner

Well done Workrider..........some lads on here crowing about a 4/11 shot.

Ratty must be counting his tank......

Runner up done at 1.04,took a while for the winner to get going but was really traveling at the finish.

No sign of Kingrat,an 11/1 on loser may have softened his cough.

Well done Workrider you found plenty of winners so hope you won plenty

I didn't want to be the first to say it but I agree totally with bigwillystyle,it was pure and utter guesswork and apart from the obvious breeding of the animal,there was no logical reason for putting it up in the first place. All he said was it was worth a look in the market,and the market hardly shouted her from the rooftops,so in fact it wasn't even a selection pre race. Anybody who backed it was lucky Heffernan rode it, as if most others rode it then they wouldn't have collected,as the fact is it was not wanted at all and the idiot wasn't able to prevent it from winning. Still Dermot will be happy enough,as it should make his task a lot easier next Tuesday night.

How can you put up an obvious second string as a selection on breeding alone?. There are 100's of well bred horses,in fact most of Coolmore progeny are well bred,and not a lot of them are as good as this one. Now if the reasoning was that somebody who knew something had told you she was decent,then fair enough,but this illogical reasoning about Heffernan riding winners lately really makes the mind boggle.

Yes and he rode the apparent first string in the Oaks,but this was a maiden where Joseph was on a heavily backed Snow in what looked like  a straight shoot out against Bolger. She is obviously very decent to be able to win unwanted.

I take your point Jimeen and BWS's as well,still WR put up a thread highlighting the breeding and without being a mindreader the second string jock wasn,t necessarily a deterrent which is fair enough.
I'll show my naivety here Jimeen but so what,you say she was unwanted but who is "wanting" them?

jim,bigwilly,
I really carnt see what the problem is with wr picking his winner on breeding..i have a mate who works for a racing monthly who picks winners in maidens all threw breeding!..i personally am not clued up on breeding..im a form man..but wr knows his racing..he,s in a rich vain of form  instead of trying to belittle his winners..carnt we not try to be happy that someone is posting winners?..sometimes on here I find it hard to understand why people look to find problems when there is none?..my I say I like jim and bigwilly..I have no axe to grind but I do feel there wrong in highlighting this...

put up a good price winner, and its claimed after the race, wasnt really a selection, because its never run before, what load
rubbish. most maidens are eduacated guesses when theres not  alwaysform to go on. A P O'BRIENS horses have been in blistering form last two weeks, only the day before, second string won at the same price.

But I think the burning question on everybody's lips is, is Tapestry one to put in the famous notebook roadrunner...??

So You come on here and berate me for having the audacity to pick a winner on breeding , because you don't  like the jockey who has just rode a 6/1 winner  ...Magic ....

They don't always know, the worry is whether an operation that size would actually stop one if it wasn't 'wanted'. They were fairly wide of the mark with War Command. They let one of Bolgers go off ahead of it on debut and then he went completely unbacked in the Coventry.

It is very difficult to legislate for what animals will do and these guys are just trainers of animals.

In Ireland, most trainers either don't have the wherewithal or the fire power to win with one first time out, it narrows the field a good deal as there is really only O'Brien (when they hit stride) and Bolger who you could trust first time.

this year*

Stick to the US racing workrider

His are likely to be seen to better effect from now on Kav (backend types) but I'd be worried about him, Cape Cross isn't proven as a sire of sires and for the money they are asking, you'd nearly want a proven performer. Just showing Montjeu's King george on ATR now, what a loss he was.

Toby , I'm bad enough at this without sticking my nose into the yankee stuff ...

I think it was the Drumfie incident at Gowran in 09' that turned a lot of punters off him, his infamous quote was something to the effect that he rode for Aidan O'Brien and didn't give too s hits about the betting public. now he is free enough to think that in private, but a fella in his position shouldn't say that in public. The horse was tricky but the ride looked bad, jockeys never admit to having done anything wrong in most instances anyway. It is their self-proclaimed infallibility that pisses people off.