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kingrat
13 Jul 13 13:21
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the odds compiliers have got this 1 wrong imo.

        waterford  half time/full time   16-1

                                                                  cheers and glWink
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Report BJG July 13, 2013 1:36 PM BST
Was nt impressed with them at all last week myself - ridiculous amount of frees made em look a lot better than they were!
Report kingrat July 13, 2013 2:09 PM BST
imo they were the greatest team i have ever seen but they are no where near that now.they were a fcking atm machine for me but i never let sentiment interfere with my betting.....they are struggling up front and dont have that slickness and ruthlessness to kill off teams with goals anymore imo....cuteness and experiance they have in abundance but will that be enough?the question is...can the cats bring again that level of intensity and physical punishment to the cause yet again because they will need to against this waterford team that will be up for it and smell blood.i just think the cats have got to be feeling it now and at the price i'm in.
Report neill d July 13, 2013 2:21 PM BST
IMO King, the biggest problem Kilkenny have is that they aren't producing the classy young forwards they were a few years ago. Walter Walsh is a good addition, but he is more in the ball winning Martin Comerford mould than a real brilliant forward. Paddy Hogan is probably the best of what they have produced of late and I wouldn't be sold on him.

Richie Power is a very good player who could be a great player, he'd want to get on with it though.
Report kingrat July 13, 2013 2:39 PM BST
during the week i said to a colleague of mine from tip who was in nowlan pk who is obviously biased.... "they will just not lie down!".... and he said "thats because it was infront of their home crowd against tip but that game will have took alot out of the fckers boy!"Laugh
Report neill d July 13, 2013 2:42 PM BST
GL with the bet, it would be great for Waterford hurling if they could pull it off. I wonder does Mullane regret going now given the way the championship is panning out.
Report BJG July 13, 2013 2:56 PM BST
Done Waterford to cover the hcap myself - obv we all know if KK return to the form we know they can show it could b a cricket score but nothin i have seen the last 3 weeks from them suggests they should be 1/6 here
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 4:28 PM BST
Waterford have 2 chances Bob hope and no hope.Have been relying on young Shananan to do all their scoring so far,if that's the case they will be eaten alive by the Kilkenny backs. Shefflin  and Michael Fennely are subs so plenty of ammo there,and Rice starts today. Kilkenny got their scare and will lay down an early marker in this one. Kilkenny by 7.
Report BJG July 13, 2013 4:44 PM BST
Well the hcap is 7 so i av a chance den Devil
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 4:46 PM BST
Hey don't let me put you off. Maybe they will have a good gameplan and run at the cats defence.?

The rats 16/1 is fair enough too.

But I still think the cats will lay down the law here.
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 5:23 PM BST
what ch this on? don't say tv3 please
Report TIJUANABOOZER July 13, 2013 5:24 PM BST
Tykes tv stream 12 has the Clare/Wexford match
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 5:32 PM BST
TV 3 It is  Cry
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 5:33 PM BST
Cry the only ch I cant get in the north. be streamed anywer?
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 5:50 PM BST
try  tv3 player  .  not sure
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 5:57 PM BST
Cool cheers mate on next
Report Slabster July 13, 2013 6:40 PM BST
Up Wexi Devil
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 7:34 PM BST
Interesting thread title...

It was the end of an era when Dublin beat them in the league final a couple of years ago.

Ok they are not the team of 5 years ago..but ambushed by this lot.....no chance i say, no chance..

I dont think it takes it out of them...i see a team getting ready.... and they fcuckin love it by...

Im a Dub, so ill be looking for a trade....Killkenny will win though..
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 7:35 PM BST
boyo
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 7:45 PM BST
Jesus knows....i love these two corner backs....
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 8:09 PM BST
Why the two umpires dont stand back.....ffs
Report Dan Chipowski July 13, 2013 8:09 PM BST
Deplorable standard of hurling in that first half. Waterford were well on top but made some bizarre positional switches.
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 8:10 PM BST
poor..yes...
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:01 PM BST
1.01  BUSTED....
Report BJG July 13, 2013 9:03 PM BST
Easy moneyCool but Jaysus how bad were the Waterford forwards - should have walked that

Good final whistle by the ref there too - hope Waterford can do it in Extra time! The amount of ball they just handed to kk was unreal
Report BJG July 13, 2013 9:04 PM BST
And on a side note what a performance from Kevin Moran! Was nearly a 1 man team
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 9:04 PM BST
Good final whistle?  Unheard of to blow in that situation. Spineless cheat of a ref,but im sure the neutrals wont agree!
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:05 PM BST
Abysmal stuff....What was Shefflin doing..could have kept the ball in hand with seconds left but chose to flick it inside to a Waterford man....shocking..
Report Dan Chipowski July 13, 2013 9:06 PM BST
Irish, with respect you're talking rubbish.

Watch it back, he was clearly blowing the whistle before it was apparent Ruth was getting the ball.

Agree with BJG, Waterford should have won easily.
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 9:06 PM BST
Kilkenny way off the pace and look finished. Waterford abysmal too.
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 9:07 PM BST
Nah be honest,the Kilkenny man was in the clear,and no way was he allowing the cats win it at that stage.
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:10 PM BST
Jaysus that was mighty close....he blew when he saw the man get ball to hand....dicey stuff ..
Report BJG July 13, 2013 9:11 PM BST
Ruth had nt got the ball i dont think wen the whistle blew - had it blown b4 it reached him i thought and could nt hear the 1st blow with the noise as he did the usual 3 blow finish ? Will see in the highlights anyway
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:12 PM BST
Shefflin hardly touched the ball....when he did they got an equaliser.
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:16 PM BST
Was thinking..he would never have blown in Nowlan park..madness really..


Some idiot has suspended 'qualify' market too.
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 9:17 PM BST
whys the market suspended?
Report charlatan July 13, 2013 9:19 PM BST
incompetence
Report Dan Chipowski July 13, 2013 9:19 PM BST
Waterford keeper must have backed Kilkenny, 3 straight puckouts over the line or to a KK man. Laugh
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 9:22 PM BST
Cry
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:23 PM BST
W T F...SQUARE BALL.....he was in before the first strike....unreal
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 9:24 PM BST
open the fu cking market to I green up ffs
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:24 PM BST
All monies should be returned...in running market not...
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 9:25 PM BST
Like I said,a spineless cheat. SQUARE BALL!
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:25 PM BST
Fcukin CATS gettin stitched up here...
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:31 PM BST
Makes me friggin laugh not.....

Training session for inter county...5,000...yes...

Hawkeye...fcukin plenty.....ticket prices fcukin plenty...

Umpires....2 pints od stout....
Report Dan Chipowski July 13, 2013 9:39 PM BST
Waterford management have a lot to answer for there. Why persist with the short puckouts? The one puckout he took properly he landed on the full forward line ffs.
Report peckerdunne July 13, 2013 9:40 PM BST
Cody knows...they will overcome a host of niggles and injuries...to continue on....fitness and mental capacity...awesome..
Report The Bhoys July 13, 2013 9:42 PM BST
Kilkenny wont win it
Report Dan Chipowski July 13, 2013 9:50 PM BST
They were there for the taking tonight. Waterford did all the hurling but just hadn't the forwards. If Mullane was playing they'd have won.

Sneaking suspicion tonight was the night to get KK after the massive effort last week etc, they've regressed a lot but the one or two class forwards like Power & Hogan are still something other teams don't have.
Report Irish_Celtic July 13, 2013 9:55 PM BST
Sure Waterford had 16 men on the field Cry
Report silvergreaser July 14, 2013 10:24 AM BST
16 men is an understatement refs hate Kilkenny for been successful if it was soccer you get the total opposite successful teams get the benefit?
Report GANT007 July 14, 2013 10:36 AM BST
It's the same in Racing Silvergreaser. Some people just hate winners.
Report Toto82 July 14, 2013 10:46 AM BST
Was 1.01 taken after Ruth's "point"?
Also how low were KK at 5 points up in the last 10 mins?
Report THEREFSAYS July 14, 2013 11:15 AM BST
I can't believe some of the comments made here regarding the refs and their hatred re Kilkenny. In the last 3 matches they played the stats will show Kilkenny scored 0-12 v Dublin's 0-4 from frees. It was 0-10 vs 0-04 in their favour v's Tipp and 1-06 vs 0-1 in favour of Kilkenny last night. Added to this he overruled the umpires to award the goal from the penalty (correct call). He consulted with the umpires regarding the square ball as he should do. However, the umpires obviously made the wrong call. As for the final whistle, I think we can agree that he had blown the whistle when Shane Fives was in possesion.
Report BJG July 14, 2013 11:41 AM BST
Toto82     Joined: 15 Jul 03
Replies: 902 14 Jul 13 10:46 
Was 1.01 taken after Ruth's "point"?
Also how low were KK at 5 points up in the last 10 mins?



Was about 4.5k matched on kk at 1.01 - was a bit matched on Waterford at 1000 too i saw in the graph after so some1 was sweatin a bit late on
Report Irish_Celtic July 14, 2013 12:03 PM BST
Kilkenny got more frees?? Ever think that might be because they were fouled a hell of a lot more maybe?
They were quite happy to give Kilkenny a point from penalty until the players caused uproar.and rightly so.
As far as the square ball goes the Waterford forward could have been charged rent he was waiting in the square so long.Ok the umpires must take a lot of blame,but  the ref was inept if he didn't see it or didn't want to see it.

Everybody loves too see the underdog win,but its not the refrees job to level the playing field.Terrible performance from Owens and hopefully we see no more from him for the rest of the championship.
Report by purpose July 14, 2013 1:35 PM BST
BJG
I presume the 4.5k macthed at 1.01 was lost as the market was on 70mins for sure was it not?
Report BJG July 14, 2013 1:41 PM BST
Yup 70 mins market so lost
Report The Bhoys July 14, 2013 1:43 PM BST
anyone fancy meath to cover 8.5 in handicap v the dubs?
Report BJG July 14, 2013 1:48 PM BST
Not me anyway - think its gonna b a massive beating for em
Report Ozymandius July 14, 2013 1:55 PM BST
Anyone else on the TIE in the cricket?  Come on!!!
Report Ozymandius July 14, 2013 1:59 PM BST
5001/ atm, shirley worth a few quid
Report dj876 July 14, 2013 2:03 PM BST
ozy you're incorrect it's 12.0
Report BJG July 14, 2013 2:03 PM BST
Good start by Meath!
Report BJG July 14, 2013 2:04 PM BST
Ozymandius     14 Jul 13 13:55 
Anyone else on the TIE in the cricket?  Come on!!!
Ozymandius     14 Jul 13 13:59 
5001/ atm, shirley worth a few quid





http://www.betfair.com/exchange/cricket/market?id=1.109216931


Wrong market Ozy, its 12 Silly
Report Ozymandius July 14, 2013 2:05 PM BST
BlushIs 'The Draw' different to 'The Tie' dj?
Report dj876 July 14, 2013 2:05 PM BST
I suggest Sir that you read your Betfair Rules Book and educate yourself on the difference between a tied match and a drawn match.
Report Ozymandius July 14, 2013 2:06 PM BST
Cry I need rain!
Report Ozymandius July 14, 2013 2:06 PM BST
I was thinking it was too good to be true!
Report Ozymandius July 14, 2013 2:09 PM BST
Should be 1000/1 shirley?
Report dj876 July 14, 2013 2:10 PM BST
Yup it's a value lay.

http://thebetfairtrader.blogspot.ie/2007/09/betfair-cricket-tie-rule-beyond-belief.html
Report dj876 July 14, 2013 2:14 PM BST
The massive difference lately on betting on handicaps in GAA is that the favourites no longer ease up when they have the game won because of the intense competition for places.-A pleasing development because they were markets I used to ignore.
Report The Bhoys July 14, 2013 2:39 PM BST
jesus I cant believe I didn't stick with meath plus 8.5 bet Cry
Report dj876 July 14, 2013 2:41 PM BST
Dublin are rattled but a long way to go,Free taking the difference.
Mount Ventoux starting now,Daniel Martin @ 34,has to have a chance
Report peckerdunne July 14, 2013 2:44 PM BST
tie.....LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report peckerdunne July 14, 2013 2:44 PM BST
draw...LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report dj876 July 14, 2013 2:50 PM BST
The guy made a mistake,big deal.I doubt he lost much at 500/1 .Ban the Smileys Campaign.
Report peckerdunne July 14, 2013 2:51 PM BST
cool...one should not bet if they dont know the rules,simple.
Report peckerdunne July 14, 2013 2:53 PM BST
or one should not bet if one does not know the rules,simple...Wink
Report peckerdunne July 14, 2013 2:54 PM BST
And they are not rules anyway,they are laws....Wink
Report The Bhoys July 14, 2013 3:16 PM BST
cud we not get cluxkton to do nets for Ireland soccer team? hes fu cking brilliant plus can hit a free kick
Report BJG July 14, 2013 4:41 PM BST
Absolutely ridiculous red card that! Ref has had a shocker but i wont complain! We mite win now!
Report pa lapsy July 14, 2013 4:44 PM BST
He was rubbin the front off his head and twas a slight slap on the back off the helmet,close game without being a classic.
Report BJG July 14, 2013 4:53 PM BST
Ball hit him on the forehead, thats why he went down Silly
Report pa lapsy July 14, 2013 5:16 PM BST
I hope the sliothar is all right, looking like Limerick now.
Report Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods July 14, 2013 6:13 PM BST
Poor decision from the ref, ruined the game really. Cork will need to improve, without Horgan, to trouble KK - but that's not impossible.

All to play for really. All Ireland medals are up for grabs!
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