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25 Jun 13
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Can one of the answers be Soldier Of Fortune please? 
Q1.Heroics stimulate this triple winner
Q2.Rage against the dying of the light
Q3.Youngest ever National winners winner
Q4.This boy has gone to war
Q5.Workrider
Q6.Vincent OBrien was runner up
Q7.This winner was cheered in Wagga Wagga
Q8.Weld placed a wager slowly.
Q9.The best of times the worst of times can yield two winners and the homonyms can find a controversial favourite that finished last.
Q10.Horatio Luro
Q11.Sole 5 time winner
Q12.After Orby
Q13.Father once son four times.
Q14.She won the Oaks and her father had a connection with the homonym from Q9.
Q15.Vintner
Q16.Western Cannons
Q17.Arthur connects this winner and runner up.
Q18.Name the first and second that were owned by a wife and husband.
Q19.Who did John Oxx run in place of the frightened Sea The Stars
Q20.Sad mad bad
Q21.What relation is this years winning trainer to the winning trainer from 1962 and 1965.
Usual mixture
19 horses,3 jockeys,2 trainers,1 owner and 1 other
Q2.Rage against the dying of the light
Q3.Youngest ever National winners winner
Q4.This boy has gone to war
Q5.Workrider
Q6.Vincent OBrien was runner up
Q7.This winner was cheered in Wagga Wagga
Q8.Weld placed a wager slowly.
Q9.The best of times the worst of times can yield two winners and the homonyms can find a controversial favourite that finished last.
Q10.Horatio Luro
Q11.Sole 5 time winner
Q12.After Orby
Q13.Father once son four times.
Q14.She won the Oaks and her father had a connection with the homonym from Q9.
Q15.Vintner
Q16.Western Cannons
Q17.Arthur connects this winner and runner up.
Q18.Name the first and second that were owned by a wife and husband.
Q19.Who did John Oxx run in place of the frightened Sea The Stars
Q20.Sad mad bad
Q21.What relation is this years winning trainer to the winning trainer from 1962 and 1965.
Usual mixture
19 horses,3 jockeys,2 trainers,1 owner and 1 other
I presume 21 is 63 & 65 wildman?, Grandson, and obviously you fancy Sugar Boy on Saturday?.
Mourayan correct
Jimmy and Pat Eddery correct
Steel Pulse correct
Grandson correct and I do fancy Sugar Boy,the last four quizzes I have done on a specific race I have tipped the winner so here's hoping the trend continues.
Jimmy and Pat Eddery correct
Steel Pulse correct
Grandson correct and I do fancy Sugar Boy,the last four quizzes I have done on a specific race I have tipped the winner so here's hoping the trend continues.
Steel Pulses trainer Scobie Breasely came from Wagga Wagga
Garney Bougure although a fellow Australian came from some place with a more mundane name.
Garney Bougure although a fellow Australian came from some place with a more mundane name.
Sir Michael Stoute correct its an anagram
Nijinsky not my answer but a correct one all the same for the obvious reasons.
Nijinsky not my answer but a correct one all the same for the obvious reasons.
I rushed this and it shows.
Lester Piggott although not my answer is correct as he rode five winners.
Lester Piggott although not my answer is correct as he rode five winners.
I am putting a special clue for some of the forumites that would like to answer a question but can't,I have the foul mouthed Vulgarians in mind.
Qxx.Geriatric fellatio.
Qxx.Geriatric fellatio.
Santa Claus correct as he was the second horse to do the Derby double.
8. Grey Swallow ...... wager slowly a great anagram Wildman
Soldieroffortune behaving like a gentleman for reasons that will emerge later.
2. Dylan Thomas
6. Shareef dancer (caerleon second)
10. El Gran Senor
14. salsabil
20. celtic swing
6. Shareef dancer (caerleon second)
10. El Gran Senor
14. salsabil
20. celtic swing
New and impressive runner.
Dylan Thomas correct as that line is a famous quote from the Welsh poet
El Gran Señor correct as he was named in honour of Horstio Luro
Celtic Swing correct that was the headline of the Racing Post when Celtic Swing ducked the Epsom Derby and went for the French equivalent( was a mile and a half race at the time )
Although Vincent OBrien trained many horses to be second the answer was not trained by him.
Salsabil won the Epsom Oaks alright but her daddy was Saddlers Wells who has no connection with Q9.
Dylan Thomas correct as that line is a famous quote from the Welsh poet
El Gran Señor correct as he was named in honour of Horstio Luro
Celtic Swing correct that was the headline of the Racing Post when Celtic Swing ducked the Epsom Derby and went for the French equivalent( was a mile and a half race at the time )
Although Vincent OBrien trained many horses to be second the answer was not trained by him.
Salsabil won the Epsom Oaks alright but her daddy was Saddlers Wells who has no connection with Q9.
Rosy Mari wildman.
Sometimes taking a good long look in the mirror can be an unpleasant experience and change is the only way forward.
Sometimes taking a good long look in the mirror can be an unpleasant experience and change is the only way forward.
balanchine so for the oaks winner!
and sir ivor for the vincent o brien second
and sir ivor for the vincent o brien second
Balanchine is correct,she was sired by Storm Bird and there is your clue for Q9.
The answer to Q6 was not trained by Vincent OBrien.
The answer to Q6 was not trained by Vincent OBrien.
Scores
Soldieroffortune 6
Silvergreaser. 5
Victors. 4
The Gotchee. 2
Soldieroffortune 6
Silvergreaser. 5
Victors. 4
The Gotchee. 2
q9- the line is from tale of two cities - Zagreb is one city not sure the other could also have been some link with Dickens Hill second to Troy?. Storm Birds dam is South Ocean so some connection with Cape Blanco?!
You have cracked Q9.
Zagreb is correct
The connection is Storm Bird.
A Tale Of Two Cities now find the homonym.
Zagreb is correct
The connection is Storm Bird.
A Tale Of Two Cities now find the homonym.
Is clue 5, workrider, generously sycophantic in nature?
Q5 is easy enough The Gotchee is close to the answer.
I would consider George McGrath a serious rider,he was stable jockey to Seamus McGrath and Vincent OBrien put him up on a few.
This lad is deceased was from Kildare and was a genuine workrider.
This lad is deceased was from Kildare and was a genuine workrider.
And he also has the claim to fame wildman of having ridden the great stallion Sadlers Wells to victory in the Irish 2000 guineas with Pat deciding to pick the 4th horse Capture Him ahead of Sadlers.
He also rode Gregorian to win the Irish Champion Stakes for Vincent OBrien.
Silver surely you can get the Workrider question as he is an Irish Derby winner.
Silver surely you can get the Workrider question as he is an Irish Derby winner.
Liam Ward was a multiple Irish Champion jockey who rode the great Nijinsky to victory in the Irish Derby.
He got the mount on Nijinsky because he had a deal with Vincent OBrien that he rode all his horses in Ireland,it was a wonder to me that this arrangement survived the debacle of 1968 when Ward replaced Piggott on the mercurial Sir Ivor leaving Lester free to ride Ribero,Lester knew that Sir Ivor didnt really stay and he used that to make it a rest of stamina resulting in him beating Sir Ivor the 1/3 favourite.
He got the mount on Nijinsky because he had a deal with Vincent OBrien that he rode all his horses in Ireland,it was a wonder to me that this arrangement survived the debacle of 1968 when Ward replaced Piggott on the mercurial Sir Ivor leaving Lester free to ride Ribero,Lester knew that Sir Ivor didnt really stay and he used that to make it a rest of stamina resulting in him beating Sir Ivor the 1/3 favourite.
A few clues for the unanswered
Q4.This boy has gone to war
Thomas Moore is the clue here
Q5.Workrider
We have established who he is not but he rode an Irish Derby winner when he was effectively a workrider,he was from Kildare and is deceased.
Q6.Vincent OBrien was runner up.
This is a horse that finished runner up in the Irish Derby he wasn't trained by Vincent but was named after him.
Q9.The best of times the worst of times can yield two winners and the homonym can find a controversial favourite that finished last.
Victor cracked this by recognising the opening line from A Tale Of Two Cities this got him the correct answer of Zagreb as a city so we were looking for another city this is a more ancient one and this winner certainly wasn't wooden.
The homonym is the second word and we have established from Q14 that Storm Bird is a connection.
Q11.Sole five time winner
Soldieroffortune answered Lester Piggott which was correct but not the one I had in mind,my answer is an owner who won the race five times.
Q4.This boy has gone to war
Thomas Moore is the clue here
Q5.Workrider
We have established who he is not but he rode an Irish Derby winner when he was effectively a workrider,he was from Kildare and is deceased.
Q6.Vincent OBrien was runner up.
This is a horse that finished runner up in the Irish Derby he wasn't trained by Vincent but was named after him.
Q9.The best of times the worst of times can yield two winners and the homonym can find a controversial favourite that finished last.
Victor cracked this by recognising the opening line from A Tale Of Two Cities this got him the correct answer of Zagreb as a city so we were looking for another city this is a more ancient one and this winner certainly wasn't wooden.
The homonym is the second word and we have established from Q14 that Storm Bird is a connection.
Q11.Sole five time winner
Soldieroffortune answered Lester Piggott which was correct but not the one I had in mind,my answer is an owner who won the race five times.
Excellent quiz as usual Wildman.......Q5....Willie Burke.
I'D say you are correct J.R...I found it hard not to get involved in that question....
J R Hartley weighs in with four quick correct answers.
The Minstrel boy to the war has gone is one of Moores melodies.
Scobie Breasley rode Santa Claus to win the Epsom Derby,Mickey Rogers took the risky decision of giving Willie Burke the ride at the Curragh,he was effectively a Workrider at the time although he had won the Irish 2000 Guineas on him he had hardly had a ride in public since,still alls well that ends well.
The ancient city of Troy is correct of wooden horse fame,Troy and Zagreb two Irish Derby winners named after cities.
The homonym in this clue is Tale so make that tail now find a favourite that finished last that had some problems with his tail,the connection with Storm Bird is he had his tail and mane cut by a disgruntled employee at end of his two year old career.
The present Aga Khan has won the Irish Derby five times.
The Minstrel boy to the war has gone is one of Moores melodies.
Scobie Breasley rode Santa Claus to win the Epsom Derby,Mickey Rogers took the risky decision of giving Willie Burke the ride at the Curragh,he was effectively a Workrider at the time although he had won the Irish 2000 Guineas on him he had hardly had a ride in public since,still alls well that ends well.
The ancient city of Troy is correct of wooden horse fame,Troy and Zagreb two Irish Derby winners named after cities.
The homonym in this clue is Tale so make that tail now find a favourite that finished last that had some problems with his tail,the connection with Storm Bird is he had his tail and mane cut by a disgruntled employee at end of his two year old career.
The present Aga Khan has won the Irish Derby five times.
Current Scores
Soldieroffortune 6
Silvergreaser. 5
Victors. 4
J R Hartley. 4
The Gotchee. 2
JayTrumpOldTom. 1
Some more clues
Q6.Vincent OBrien was runner up.
This is a horse that finished second to a record breaking winner,it was trained in England and owned by a former close ally of Vincent,he mischievously named the colt after Vincent.
Q9.This was a long clue with 3 answers with one remaining,the answer is a favourite who finished last,the homonym used was tale,the other clue was Storm Bird who was had his mane and tail cut by a disgruntled employee,this lads tail was the cause of his defeat.
Q10 Horatio Luro
This horse was named after this man.
Q15.Vintner
This is the new profession of a winning trainer and famous son.
Q16.Western Cannons
A horse and a cryptic clue,western can mean direction but it also can mean a type of film or TV programme,Cannon in this instance is a family name.
Q17.Arthur connects this winner and runner up.
The Arthur here is King Arthur and both horses were trained in Ballydoyle although with a thirty year gap
Q18.Name the one two that were owned by wife and husband
These were two horses trained in England that finished first and second,the winner was owned by the runner ups wife and both horses had the same second name.
Soldieroffortune 6
Silvergreaser. 5
Victors. 4
J R Hartley. 4
The Gotchee. 2
JayTrumpOldTom. 1
Some more clues
Q6.Vincent OBrien was runner up.
This is a horse that finished second to a record breaking winner,it was trained in England and owned by a former close ally of Vincent,he mischievously named the colt after Vincent.
Q9.This was a long clue with 3 answers with one remaining,the answer is a favourite who finished last,the homonym used was tale,the other clue was Storm Bird who was had his mane and tail cut by a disgruntled employee,this lads tail was the cause of his defeat.
Q10 Horatio Luro
This horse was named after this man.
Q15.Vintner
This is the new profession of a winning trainer and famous son.
Q16.Western Cannons
A horse and a cryptic clue,western can mean direction but it also can mean a type of film or TV programme,Cannon in this instance is a family name.
Q17.Arthur connects this winner and runner up.
The Arthur here is King Arthur and both horses were trained in Ballydoyle although with a thirty year gap
Q18.Name the one two that were owned by wife and husband
These were two horses trained in England that finished first and second,the winner was owned by the runner ups wife and both horses had the same second name.
Brilliant Silvergreaser Careleon wasn't the one I had in mind but it strangely fits the bill perfectly.
Camelot is the Aidan OBrien trained winner but the Vincent OBrien trained runner up I had in mind was before Caerleon.
Q10.Horatio Luro
Silvergreaser you originally answered Nijinsky which although again wasn't my answer but as he bred him was correct.
Horatio Luro trained Northern Dancer and Was called El Gran Señor
Three more correct answers from J R Hartley.
Camelot is the Aidan OBrien trained winner but the Vincent OBrien trained runner up I had in mind was before Caerleon.
Q10.Horatio Luro
Silvergreaser you originally answered Nijinsky which although again wasn't my answer but as he bred him was correct.
Horatio Luro trained Northern Dancer and Was called El Gran Señor
Three more correct answers from J R Hartley.
Linden Tree correct.
He was favourite for the 1971 race ,his tail got caught in the starting stalls so he didnt exit his stall for a bit,he was hopelessly left but vainly galloped after them.
He was favourite for the 1971 race ,his tail got caught in the starting stalls so he didnt exit his stall for a bit,he was hopelessly left but vainly galloped after them.
King Pellinore correct,he finished second to Grundy.
It's now a two horse race
J R Hartley 9
Silvergreaser 8
One question left
Q18.Name the one two that were owned by wife and husband
We have already established that the wife's horse won beating the husbands horse,both horse were trained in England but by different trainers and both horses had two word names with the second word being the same.
It's now a two horse race
J R Hartley 9
Silvergreaser 8
One question left
Q18.Name the one two that were owned by wife and husband
We have already established that the wife's horse won beating the husbands horse,both horse were trained in England but by different trainers and both horses had two word names with the second word being the same.
English Prince and Imperial Prince Col Hue Williams and his wife.
Correct Silvergreaser
First and second in the 1974 race and both bred by the Hue Williams as well as owned by them
Finally a result and it took a last minute goal for the Lilywhites to win.
Silvergreaser 10
J R Hartley. 9
Soldieroffortune 6
Victors. 4
The Gotchee. 2
JayTrumpOldTom. 1
First and second in the 1974 race and both bred by the Hue Williams as well as owned by them
Finally a result and it took a last minute goal for the Lilywhites to win.
Silvergreaser 10
J R Hartley. 9
Soldieroffortune 6
Victors. 4
The Gotchee. 2
JayTrumpOldTom. 1
Actually wildman Pat Eddery would have ridden English Prince only he was suspended so Saint Martin stepped into the breach.
I forgot about that,my recollection of those times were jockeys were never suspended,halcyon days.
I want to lodge an objection!....some very suspect scoring here.....
No fkn way Silver should be beating me imo.........absolutely disgraceful.
No fkn way Silver should be beating me imo......
...absolutely disgraceful.
Agree Hartly I think wildman gave me an extra 2 points for a question already answered.
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