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dinglemick
20 Jun 13 20:00
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I had no bet so not talking through my pocket , but watched this horse on the machine drift from 2.12 to 2.38 on the off and watched young dawson give an exhibition on how to " stop one " from stall one .... anyone agree ????
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Report listoweldude • June 20, 2013 8:19 PM BST
Thought he was trying myself mick was just a brutal ride..id say a ban on the way too the way he barged through at the end
Report dj876 • June 20, 2013 9:26 PM BST
I have watched this replay back a few times.The 2 most important parts of this race were the start, Edith Cowan coming out of stall 1 gets a fair barge of Collingwood(2)(Katie Walsh)and the filly runs very keenly for the next couple of furlongs.

The part of the race I found suspicious is a furlong and a half from home,Ray Dawson has her on the wide outside,has a clear run home and switches her back inside Dansili Duel(Tinkler colours).

BSp was 2.24 so not that big a drifter but you would have expected her to be shorter under a mandatory 5lb penalty given the manner of her recent c+d win.
Report The Gotchee • June 20, 2013 10:33 PM BST
He just gave the horse a poor ride, its that simple. Thats why he is a 7lb claimer and Kevin Manning is a multiple classic winning jockey.
Report wildmanfromborneo • June 20, 2013 11:01 PM BST
The reason for the late drift on Edith Cowan was the avalanche of late money for Teoranta,nothing sinister.
Report workrider • June 20, 2013 11:13 PM BST
were you there by any chance WILDMAN ..?...I backed bolgers first winner @ 7/4 i thought she looked really well in the paddock there was a mountain of money for it right at the off , she had a slight cut on her hind leg when she got back in so did well to win as readily as she did ..I also backed FLY  THE FLAG who i also thought looked really well .,My impression is this fellow has a mind of his own and needs more than c/pieces his head went straight up when put under pressure....Thats the reason i ask . if you were and got a chance to looked at him what was your impression...?
Report wildmanfromborneo • June 20, 2013 11:23 PM BST
No sadly just watched it on television.

A point you have been making here for a long while is the importance of looking at the horses in the paddock,its vital and one of the best reasons for going to the races.
Report workrider • June 21, 2013 12:55 PM BST
I believe that the preparade and paddock are the most important places for any serious punter , You can learn so much just from watching a horse , and how it reacts to its surroundings on that given day ....
Report Ozymandius • June 21, 2013 1:00 PM BST
You shouldn't really have a serious bet on a horse without being there on the day and seeing it for yourself.
Report workrider • June 21, 2013 1:06 PM BST
I think that's the first time i'eve ever agreed with you OZY....
Report RicksonG • June 22, 2013 12:19 PM BST
''You shouldn't really have a serious bet on a horse without being there on the day and seeing it for yourself. ''

Is this a joke? google for zeljko ranogajec, the guy hasn't been racing in about 15 years apart from a cpl of days out at the melbourne cup, alan woods always claimed he hadn't been to the track in circa 20 years.
Report wildmanfromborneo • June 22, 2013 1:55 PM BST
Ozymandius read that somewhere thought it sounded knowledgeable so regurgitated on here.

Looking at horses in the parade ring is only an advantage if you know what to look out for.Workrider is a judge of a horse so would be useful to Rickson G who relies on the work of others.
Report Kelly • June 22, 2013 2:20 PM BST
If we all adhered to "being there on the day " there would be no serious off course betting , which there is and always has been .

Regarding putting your money down , paddock inspection obviously helps if you know horses , but weight of money to me is of more significance .  Know I have backed very few drifters which have won , compared with hardeners who have . Follow the money has nearly always worked for me .
Report workrider • June 22, 2013 2:48 PM BST
Another gem alright Kelly , I was told that as a kid and have found it to be mostly a truism .....Was there a piece years ago in either the ld h/cap book called FOLLOW THE MONEY....?
Report RicksonG • June 22, 2013 4:37 PM BST
Hi Wildmanfromborneo!
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