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tony57
20 Jun 13 09:48
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I,d appreciate some of the lads opinions on whether the bad ride this one got lto is something to forget and just go with..i hate backing unlucky horses co,s its usually a bookies bonanza..but this was a dreadful ride and the horse should of won..says something that hughes stays on the horse when he could of rode the queens runner who has a progressive profile..needless to say its a tough race to pick a place horse never mind the winner but I,d like others thoughts on the race...good luck all
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Report JayTrumpOldTomDubbl June 20, 2013 10:02 AM BST
fwiw; Tony, Hughsie in his column last Sat., didn't say a lot about Wentworth, just that he needed the run at Goodwood, and is a big lazy type of horse, and said if you don't travel you wont win a Britannia. So he must feel he will travel well, and have a decent shout.
Tony I fancy Alive Alive Oh, from T Stacks stable in the 2nd race, as she was very impressive last time out. She has beaten Ballydoyle's Magical Dream 6l. Now the same Magical Dream got to within 3 lengths+hd., of Sky Lantern in a biggie late last yr., so this is form of a very high standard. Classic form really. This was 3.75 on here earlier but all gone now. Shortening all the while.
Report JayTrumpOldTomDubbl June 20, 2013 10:09 AM BST
I think we have a NR in that 2nd race as JP Spencers mount seems to be out, and most likely a factor in the price movement of Alive, Alive Oh................
Report tony57 June 20, 2013 10:13 AM BST
thanks jay..i,ll have alook at stacks...I was disappointed with the ride wentworth got lto and if hughes thinks the horse is a bit lazy then I expect a different approach here in what is a tough race..thanks for that jay..
Report oufies pal June 20, 2013 10:15 AM BST
Yep Tony not R Hughes finest hour at  Goodwood worrying thing about that race though winner well beaten twice since also close up fourth also beaten twice (admittedly at listed class). Probably a well handicapped animal though and doubt about second fav running because of fast going. Hard one to call but ill stick with the old adage   "if in doubt best  stay out " ..Good luck if you punt him.
Report tony57 June 20, 2013 10:16 AM BST
jay just watched alive lto at navan..impressive..just took 5/2
Report tony57 June 20, 2013 10:19 AM BST
thanks oufies, your spot on if in doubt...I just like the horse..but I,ll wait till nearer the race but im more likely to leave it...but I,ll decide later..that stat you just gave me about the winner is a cracker..thanks..
Report Deplasterer June 20, 2013 10:52 AM BST
Alive Oh for me as well today, could have been supplemented for the oaks but decided to wait for this & as already said, very impressive LTO, tend to steer clear of the cavalry charges but gl with wentworth.
Report Deplasterer June 20, 2013 11:23 AM BST
Wentworth scratched.
Report Deplasterer June 20, 2013 11:27 AM BST
Racenews ‏@RacenewsService 10m
Wentworth DOES run in today's Britannia Handicap at #RoyalAscot today. #AdminError

Does run.
Report Anaglogs Daughter June 20, 2013 1:15 PM BST
Alve Alive Oh a non-runner

'The ground isn't really an issue for her' - Fozzy Stack in today's Racing Post Happy
Report Deplasterer June 20, 2013 1:16 PM BST
Sad
Report JayTrumpOldTomDubbl June 20, 2013 1:33 PM BST
They should obviously have watered, Stickels clueless, trusting the weather forecasters, when they have not exactly shone for the last decade. Huge error by Mr. Stickels and the ground must be like the road..........ruins ladies day, hope there are no injuries to the horses.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 20, 2013 1:47 PM BST
And if Stickels had have watered and then the forecast rain came on watered ground every1 would be calling him clueless for that too
Report tips June 20, 2013 2:40 PM BST
I would be worried about wentworth draw
Report tony57 June 20, 2013 4:31 PM BST
hughes again!..what the f..ck was he doing out the back?..gave the horse far too much to do..28 runners ffs..
Report kingrat June 20, 2013 4:34 PM BST
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Report by purpose June 20, 2013 4:43 PM BST
I thought he done well to get it placed.Drawn 30 seems an impossible trap to win from the way the race worked out with every runner going to the far side.If he stayed on his own up the standside i fear your place money would have gone for a burton.
Report brain dead jockeys June 21, 2013 12:34 AM BST
if hughes forgot about the draw, it prob would have won. shocking ride.
Report Deplasterer June 21, 2013 12:10 PM BST
His ride in the last race was worse!Crazy
Report JayTrumpOldTomDubbl June 21, 2013 1:10 PM BST
Wentworth has a close relative running in the first at Ascot 2day. Has achieved a Racing Post Rating of 105, (Timeform 108), after her last win. Her winning time for that race has only been bettered by Cuais Ghaire, 1m.10.26 against 1m.9.30. Takes on lots of maiden winners who all have to step to beat her. One or two might just do that, but today I'm with the proven form of Sandiva...........
Report huddys July 3, 2013 9:25 PM BST
Down to run at haydock on saturday over a furlong extra if im not mistaken,time to get our money back tony.
Report BJG July 3, 2013 11:25 PM BST
Not many seem to have noticed the finish of Fehaydi in the same race- understandable given the uproar over the ride on Wentworth but he could offer some ew value if turnin up against him on Sat! Finished absolutely full of runnin if u see the replay, is actually behind Wentworth 2f out, switched in to follow him thru, then went to go out and had to cut back in, ran up a dead end and had to be snatched up and absolutely ate ground home under very light handling as chance had gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTTtOi-31jk

Yellow colours at the back!


Defo a race in him off his current mark but dunno if he is intended or nt - needs a few to come out too, will play ew if turnin up
Report Dan Chipowski July 3, 2013 11:50 PM BST
Hugh Taylor gave Fehaydi in his Ascot eyecatchers spot on ATR, and did actually point out that he'd rather back him going up in trip rather than over a mile again.
Report BJG July 4, 2013 11:43 AM BST
CORAL CHALLENGE (Handicap) 2.40 Sandown.
NO. DRAW    HORSE    AGE    WGT    TRAINER RTF%    JOCKEY    OR    TS    RPR
12     06-020    Prince Of Johanne17 p      7    9-10    Tom Tate    Graham Lee     100    96    111
25     609205    Es Que Love15      4    9-9    Mark Johnston66    Olivier Peslier     99    104    109
33     30-110    Directorship17      7    9-9    Patrick Chamings75    George Baker     99    89    110
47     750-40    Fury17 hb      5    9-8    William Haggas73    Joseph O'Brien     98    100    109
51     1-1156    Windhoek16    3    9-5    Mark Johnston66    Ryan Moore     104    98    118
611     369-01    Asatir10 v      4    9-5    Saeed bin Suroor56    Mickael Barzalona     95    93    110
717     9-4611    Roserrow21      4    9-5    Andrew Balding59    Jimmy Fortune     95    102    112
89     756331    Gaul Wood6 6xp      4    9-3    Tom Dascombe50    Declan Bates5     93    109    109
96    9-1006    St Moritz32      7    9-2    David O´Meara50    Daniel Tudhope     92    86    110
108     15-22    Danchai21 p    4    9-2    William Haggas73    William Buick     92    99    112
114    1-1172    Rockalong10      4    9-0    Luca Cumani60    Jamie Spencer     90    107    111
1213     0-5104    Bronze Prince44      6    9-0    Michael Attwater    Luke Morris     90    91    109
1315    90001    Capaill Liath14 p      5    9-0    Kevin Ryan50    Paul Hanagan     90    101    109
1416     611-34    Wentworth16      3    8-13    Richard Hannon70    Richard Hughes     98    107    116
1514     220-55    Trader Jack21      4    8-12    Roger Charlton60    James Doyle     88    107    114
1610     0-3622    Tigers Tale30 v      4    8-11    Roger Teal33    Frankie Dettori     87    106    112
1712    500331    Postscript14      5    8-11    David Simcock59     87    100    110
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