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The Gotchee
04 Jun 13 22:21
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why so much press for a minority sport?

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By:
richters
When: 04 Jun 13 22:48
d4 psyhophants imo
By:
GANT007
When: 04 Jun 13 22:53
Huge interest in Rugby across the country.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 04 Jun 13 23:32
When i lived in Dublin i could not believe how big rugby was it was on a par with Cardiff or close to it. Back home it's less so but compared to when i was growing up it's grown but a long way behind what it is in the east cost. It still gets mote coverage than it should but that's because of the Dublin media. I would say Soccer is the most played sport in Dublin, and probably Rugby is the number 2 if you count the tag rugby stuff.
By:
GANT007
When: 04 Jun 13 23:39
Soccer is big in Dublin and Rugby in certain areas. But across the entire country Rugby is clearly the 2nd most popular sport and growing.
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 00:42
Tradition , quality , memorable moments / tours . A la Ryder Cup .

Not sure where Ireland rate in world terms in rugby at momemnt , but its a lot higher than we rate in soccer . And its been like that for quite a while . So interest is partly status related too .
By:
neill d
When: 05 Jun 13 00:54
Spurious argument Kelly as it is a far shallower pool. Rugby benefits from A) The international element, not a global game so small countries like Wales, New Zealand and Ireland can thrive and B) The fact that they play compete in a major tournament every spring with games against England and France for the chance to win something tangible(relating back to point A). C) The stars nearly all play at home.

Irish Rugby is extremely well managed and marketed, but it is more of a spectator sport than a participatory one for most. The game (and it is a fine game) also benefits from the support of the Upper echelons of our society that run the media.
By:
neill d
When: 05 Jun 13 00:57
I don't like it being compared to soccer because much as we're told the Soccer lads are overpaid/fall over too easily/ don't take any hits/behave disgracefully/ are typically uneducated therefore not as articulate in interview, they have to attain a much higher standard of excellence in their chosen sport to bring success than their Rugby counterparts.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 05 Jun 13 08:13
Yes totally agree Neill, it's a bit like saying we're number 1 at hurling in the world or in the top 2 of gaelic football. If you add in the tag rugby part of the sport it may well be the 2nd most played sport in Ireland but i can't see it passing out soccer though.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 10:09
Lions Tour is the biggest sporting event of the year 2013.
By:
richters
When: 05 Jun 13 10:44
just u kid yourself into beleiving that....lol......good lad ozy........
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 10:48
8 Irish on starting line up today , including late replacement Rory Best . Only one notable Irish missing , Paul O'Connell .  But hey thats who Rory throws best to .....?
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 10:49
No Olympics, No World Cup, No European Championship, No Ryder Cup, No Rugby  World Cup.  Its not exactly a year of huge events.
By:
db1974
When: 05 Jun 13 10:51
In terms of non-annual sporting events it probably is the biggest really, although there isn't much competition to be fair.

Confederations Cup next best maybe.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 10:51
I suppose you think the Ulster GAA Championship is bigger, Richters?
By:
kavvie
When: 05 Jun 13 10:51
oz biggest event in sport in ireland for 2013 is the all ireland football final,followed closely by the hurling final.nothing comes close.except maybe the semi final involving dublin.
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 10:51
The anomaly about rugby interest (on here at least ) is that the amounts bet on it are paltry compared with other recognised international sports .  Only conclusion I can reach is that rugby followers dont need the money as much as other sports followers !
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 11:03
Rocketfingers , implications of your earlier post is that soccer is the most played sport in ireland , followed by rugby .  I assume you dont drive about the country much , everywhere I drive in Ireland I see superb GAA grounds , often in small hamlets . Can count the soccer grounds on the fingers of one hand .

And the GAA own all their grounds , they do not have the begging bowl out for subsidies etc , other than what they are entitled to for the community service rendered .
By:
kavvie
When: 05 Jun 13 11:04
rocket has this illusion kelly.you wont change him.
By:
richters
When: 05 Jun 13 11:25
Rocketfingers , implications of your earlier post is that soccer is the most played sport in ireland , followed by rugby .  I assume you dont drive about the country much

NAIL ON HEAD,KELLY......
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 12:00
Cian Healy looks like he wont be playing again this tour .  Hope his injury is not as bad as it looks .
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 05 Jun 13 12:01
Rugby wouldn't be in the top ten of participation sports in Ireland yet the hapless Rocketfingers thinks it is second to soccer.

The IRFU deserve great credit as their far thinking as made the Irish teams competitive in Europe( that's an understatement) but the game itself is in trouble,the bulk of the players and the injuries that follow are a problem.The referee is the most important person on the pitch and few are clear on the rules,the worst of these is Tony Ward who cannot seem to follow the basic rules.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 12:08
what would be the 10 participation sports ahead of it Borneo?
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 12:24
Rugby obviously IS in the top 10 participation sports in the country .

Where it rates statistics wise is open to debate , no doubt some people will be able to answer that one .  But rugby punches above its playing membership weight , simple because we are good at it , province and national wise .  Plus there is no "split" island wise . 

The rugby lads are doing a good job , twas not always thus even in recent memory where the national organisation was second class .  Well organised now , particularly since professionalism came on board , sensible arrangements and playing structures .  The only caveat I have re the playing of rugby is the number of injuries inherent in the game , with 15 big guys physically involved on both sides .  Not much opportunity any longer for the wee will of the wisp players . And 18 stone multiplied by 10 mph meeting equivalent is a lot of momentum conversion .
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 05 Jun 13 12:27
Where would Ozymandius and Kelly place Rugby.

Do either agree with Rocketfingers that Rugby is second only to soccer.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 12:29
Rugby wouldn't be in the top ten of participation sports in Ireland

Kindly list the top 10 sports ahead of it in terms of participation.  Or retract the statement and admit to trademark bluff and bluster for dramatic effect.
By:
freddiek
When: 05 Jun 13 12:32
an event that means little or nothing to most irish people. Thats not a criticism, nothing against it, but its just a fact
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 12:34
Ball park 4th , wildman .

Gaelic football , soccer , golf , all would be ahead of rugby in participant terms .  Hurling unfortunately restricted essentially to about 8 counties out of 32  , most of us live in counties not up to the mark in skill terms to play hurling . Thats not hurlings fault , too difficult for most kids unless they live in a country parish , space and time to be able to puck a ball about , no good for conurbations where increasingly most of us live .
By:
richters
When: 05 Jun 13 12:34
correct and right freddiek
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 05 Jun 13 12:35
You are a typical non betting nervous ninny which makes you a perfect partner for Rocketfingers who similarly doesn't bet and is afraid of his shadow.

Gaelic Football
Hurling
Soccer
Golf
Horse riding
Fishing
Cycling
Swimming
Athletics
Walking


Cricket doesn't make it but it deserves to
By:
freddiek
When: 05 Jun 13 12:35
Ross O'Carroll-Kelly types, im sure they re very excited about it
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 05 Jun 13 12:37
Kelly at least you have the courage of your convictions but can't agree with you,no way is it fourth or anywhere near that.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 12:40
Cry
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 12:40
Guarantee you more people play golf than hurling , wildman .  There are more than 400 clubs in Ireland , each with up to ( and beyond) 1000 playing members , not to mention the casual non members and the kids not old enough for membership .

10% at least of the population play golf , hurling nowhere near that ( unfortunately) .
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 05 Jun 13 12:44
Ozymandius stumped yet again.

My list is not supposed to be in order its just ten sports that have more participants than Rugby
By:
Ozymandius
When: 05 Jun 13 12:55
Its too pathetic a list to even bother responding to...
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 13:01
Just to nail my colours to the mast , in terms of spectating my list of enjoyable sports available to most of us in order of spectating preference is

Hurling --the best field game anywhere in the world.
Golf -- skilful , world wide , and exciting  , TV based obviously .
Horse racing --grew up on it , particularly National Hunt  , and we Irish are among the best in the world at it .
Gaelic football --used to be higher rated with me , but hand pass ruining it ( still , but not so bad this year so far ).
Rugby --again because we are good at it , relatively speaking , but poor playing conditions sometimes ruin it as a game .
Cricket --brilliant game , well run , now with variety instead of 5 day game interest  , suffers in Ireland largely based on historical connotations and weather .

Soccer , athletics also are of interest , but only the top echelon worth watching . Occasional .

Not a big fan of boxing or basketball  , and all swimmers look the same do they not ?

Fishing is a pastime , not a sport .
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Jun 13 13:10
Oh I forgot Wimbledon , ( as against tennis ) . Wimbledon , because it is played on a proper surface , makes great viewing . And it is great for betting .
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 05 Jun 13 13:17
Soccer the most participated sport "by far" in Ireland 100% correct according to the sports council of Ireland report.

Ooops

http://www.irishsportscouncil.ie/Research/The_Irish_Sports_Monitor/Irish_Sports_Monitor_2007.pdf

It will be interesting to read the come backs i welcome all comments

Cool
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 05 Jun 13 13:24
That wasn't questioned but your placing of Rugby second was.

Do you still maintain Rugby is second in participation terms?
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