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By:
Rocketfingers
When: 03 Apr 13 14:33
I'm not doubting this story but there are a few things that seem odd to me, first Boyles to take 10k? And what the guy said in the Star today that in the rough areas of Dublin he can get 10k on if he wears a track suit. His 10k bet was a Double Bayern Munich to beat Chelsea and Ulster +8 points. I've no idea of the Rugby bet but his football bet was probably unlucky and i know some serious players who were on Munich. Looking at past records for the match Boyles were no bigger than 4/5 for the match, he has 5/6 down as the price on the docket.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 03 Apr 13 14:44
You just don't understand gambling at all.

How did the Post Office man get on,how did Factory John get on,serial losers can get what they like on because they are serial losers.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 03 Apr 13 14:44
You just don't understand gambling at all.

How did the Post Office man get on,how did Factory John get on,serial losers can get what they like on because they are serial losers.
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Gone!
When: 03 Apr 13 15:55
No bookie would refuse 10k on a champions league final. 5/6 was freely available for a few days before the match. Looking at the way the price moved and the way the match played out it is hard to argue with that bet. Wouldn't know much about the rugby side of things but i would have thought that it would be easier to find an edge in a lesser profile match.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 03 Apr 13 16:17
Ya true, champions league final sure i can see that and of course a double books would love to see that sort of bet coming, but in the Star he talked iirc about prem matches i'd have thought they'd not take 10k over the counter from someone who is meant to be a shrewdie, i've never tried tbh but considering a bookmaker knocked me back for 75 each way on Sweeney tunes the other day i find it difficult to understand how you could get that on a high street bookmaker. In regards to the price i have bookmakers who were 5/6 and even bigger but Boyles look like they were never bigger than 4/5, that could be wrong maybe if they went up and then came back down in price. Ah look i'm sure it's right but i would be amazed if a bookmaker is taking 10k over the counter from a 'winning customer' even if he's wearing a tracksuit.
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Gone!
When: 03 Apr 13 17:08
When it comes to football betting, especially prem/champions league, I don't think it matters if your a considered shrewdie or not. Because of the strength of these markets, any bookie will lay you what you want as long as 'the price is there' I'd be very surprised if anyone could give an example of how they were refused a cash bet in a shop on match odds in a high profile game. (unless its an independant and its significantly arbing)
Just looking at the game in question, Chelsea 1st 11 included Bosingwa, Kalou and Bertrand! No JT or Torres. 20 Bayern corners to Chelsea's 1. even tho it was beat, 5/6 looked a steal
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 03 Apr 13 17:22
Oh as i said Bayern looked a serious for that match that day and were extremely well punted and the lad was unlucky with that one. Ah you raise good points to be fair goal in regards to the high profile matches although i would question getting that money down on a prem match but i never tried that kind of amount or even close to it tbh, if i do i'll be telling you all about it Happy.
By:
joe9000
When: 03 Apr 13 23:51
all looks v suspect. he writes a blog for boyles, therefore is on their payroll, meaning he shudn't be able to bet with them by rights
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 04 Apr 13 00:00
As far as I'm aware MD was offered to take part in a similar type of Documentary before he left for sunnier climes but declined the offer
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 04 Apr 13 00:14
PMSL the biggest pile of 5hite I have seen in a long time. Wafting bundles of 50s around in B0yles ffs Laugh
Its like the Veitch book........complete make believe.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 04 Apr 13 00:41
I think so to Diamond Joe, as i said i can't be sure but i don't think Boyles ever went 5/6 but regardless €10k on a avg prem game i have my doubt if they'd take it. It just smells to me and now that someone says he writes blogs for Spoils i smell a rat as well. Also why would you carry that sort of money around with you when you? It's a massive security risk when you could get it down on the net not to mention he's cycling around with on a bike wearing a tracksuit lol. Bloody hell my wee office is better than his set up as well.
By:
never give up
When: 04 Apr 13 00:49

Apr 4, 2013 -- 12:00AM, snap crackle and pop wrote:


As far as I'm aware MD was offered to take part in a similar type of Documentary before he left for sunnier climes but declined the offer


LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

that is funny snap.well done

By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 04 Apr 13 00:55
What's funny about it?
By:
never give up
When: 04 Apr 13 00:57
why would "he" decline the offer ?
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 04 Apr 13 01:01
Camera shy
By:
never give up
When: 04 Apr 13 01:04
ok Laugh
By:
Kerrygold
When: 04 Apr 13 07:36
champs lg final with spoils they would take a million or 2 no problem
By:
kavvie
When: 04 Apr 13 09:00
actually boyles have cleaned up their act lately and have overtaken pp in every way.easy enough get a lumpy bet with them now.
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 04 Apr 13 21:57
e50 each way on a 9/2 in a 14 runner handicap at Dundalk had the cashier asking the manager "will we ring head office" in Boyles last week...
By:
suitangi
When: 05 Apr 13 14:36
Slightly posher version of this gentleman!!.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3I-F5ctHfA
By:
richters
When: 05 Apr 13 22:45
just seen this documentary....its a spoof.....is that scumfingers starring in it with fantasy island bets.......
By:
Eddie Batt
When: 06 Apr 13 00:10
His main mistake was presuming his poker ability would transfer to sports betting.Not a very likeable person.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 06 Apr 13 00:21
What were soe of his sports bets Eddie?
By:
Eddie Batt
When: 06 Apr 13 00:46
?
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 06 Apr 13 01:18
Do you remember what his bets were Eddie?
By:
Gone!
When: 06 Apr 13 01:23
Just watched on Skyplus (slightly intoxicated) and found in enjoyable.
For the record i've never met the guy but anyone who gets to that level at that age deserves some respect.
The training without the shirt on was unnecessary but maybe the filmmaker was trying to suggest that these guys are like athletes or something but i found it cringeworthy.
He clearly used his relationship with **** to stage the bet placements, as any shop worker who was confronted with a film crew and those size of bets would surely freak out. Having said that, anyone who believes that a bookie wouldn't accept bets of that size in games of that nature are simply delusional.
I wish he had of done more of a post mortem on the champions league/heineken cup final bets as surely he can't believe he had a 10% edge on those games.
I enjoyed the line 'chasing money that he never should have had in the first place'.
I agree with his Dad that more than 3% of gamblers are problem gamblers.
Overall for me it proves how hard it is to live the 'supposed dream' but it won't stop me trying
By:
kincsem
When: 06 Apr 13 02:55
Hendon Mob list of his results
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=77323

I've played poker against him, but only in a €350 buy-in tournament.
Anyone who plays poker would recognise the guys in the Las Vegas house.
By:
paddletoe
When: 06 Apr 13 11:57
Opened my first boyles online account less than a month ago. Tried to have £500 on a division one gaelic match this week. It was refused or rather restricted to a maximum allowed of £30.
Next day a total resstriction was placed on my account. I could not do a bet at any stakes.
By:
paddletoe
When: 06 Apr 13 12:06
I do believe a bookmaker would take 10 grand and more on a champion leagues final. The price for that event would be pretty much established so there was no edge for the punter no matter who they back. For these big events where the bookmaker has as much information as the punter the betting market will be equivalent to the bookmaker going 10/11 on the toss of a coin.

Different story altogether in a market where the punter might be better informed than the bookie.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 06 Apr 13 12:08
Joke that is Paddletoe absolute joke.
By:
paddletoe
When: 06 Apr 13 12:47
The message i received was that i was unable to do any bets due to "risk control".

Its always interesting when you use the same online bookmaker for a small period of time to find out what markets they are strong on and which they are weak on especially in running and what is their comfort level with losing money.
By:
Gone!
When: 12 Apr 13 20:49
On the late late tonight apparently
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Apr 13 21:38
the poker player or john boyle!?!?
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 12 Apr 13 23:09
why the hell wasn't he laying Bayern off on Betfair????
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Apr 13 23:21
as a gambler for a long time i think hes a fraud..he won 180000 one night but still only made 100000 that year?..some of the figs just dont add up.
By:
Mordin.
When: 12 Apr 13 23:28
He was making money on Poker for a while, why did he start backing heavy on horses, football etc on other peoples tips. Also his big bet on Leitrim to beat Fermanagh when half Fermanagh team walked out. I presume he meant London as Fermanagh played them after the Ulster championship defeat by Derry. This fella is a not a professional gambler. Doesnt have the discipline.
By:
big_dunc
When: 12 Apr 13 23:55
I have a few friends who play poker and I don't doubt that he did well out of that for a while. I remember reading his **** blog where he said he had 10s of thousands on the best line available on a Super Rugby handicap. I knew he was full of sh!t after that.
By:
mitch leary
When: 13 Apr 13 08:47
got off to a lucky start.
no discipline.
typical mug punter afterwards.
lost it all back and probably more.
probably plenty of stories like this out there.
theres a generation of young gamblers out there now who think they can make it pay. if they kept records of their bets they might cop on a bit. gambling has become very acceptable.
i dont really go into betting shops that much anymore. i preferred when they were smoky dingy holes and there were a few more characters around. There used to be a bit of an aura about a bookies shop. not anymore.
By:
workrider
When: 13 Apr 13 09:09
Gosh mitch , you have me pining for the old days now.....
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