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23 Mar 13
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General price at the moment, this is probably close to value before you take the Fletcher injury which looked v serious tonight, he's the only man that score for them and even with him playing they could still go down. At the moment i have them rated worse than Wigan and just a little ahead of Villa. They could not beat a poor side with 10 men in Norwich at the weekend and looked hopeless at times, previous match they drew 2-2 with Fulham. At the moment bar Reading i would not bet them against anyone and that is before you take the Fletcher injury into consideration. 7/2 worth a bet they're going to be very close to going down esp if he's out for any length, sure to be trading shorter soon.
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I was thinking that also last weekend when they failed to beat 10 man Norwich (AT HOME). I didnt check the price though. Good bet.
Sorry i knew they were at home v Norwich, just worded what i trying to say poorly. I thought it was a shocking performance last weekend from them and if you look at the important stats from that game which imo are shots and corners it was 15 v 9 in terms of shots and 6 v 9 in Norwich's favour in terms of corners despite Norwich playing with 10 men for more than an hour. If United can start the ball rolling next weekend this will go very close.
trust me its a good bet, I watch them every week. now lost fletcher too.
Just been lookin at this too, crackin bet imo, into around 11/4 now and thats still value, could and prob will lose their next 4 games and will be trading a hell of a lot shorter
Fletcher out, Cattermole out, horrible run of fixtures left, not looking good
Fletcher out, Cattermole out, horrible run of fixtures left, not looking good
This will be less than 2/1 by the end of next weekend, Man Utd at home and then Chelsea away are the next 2 fixtures
If United do the biz his weekend, they won't get anything away to Chelsea and Newcastle for me should win too. The only thing i will say when you look at their squad they should be better than they are but the way they've played this season has been pathetic and they nearly deserve to go down. Cattermole for me makes no difference he's just work horse, Sessegnon is capable of being so much better,he'll be the man that will keep them up if they are to stay up imo. Anyway as you lads said United win this weekend to get the ball rolling and the fun started.
that stocking Johnson was embarrassing against Norwich, skying balls into the stand that were simple crosses to make...
Another cracking Rocket thread following on from the Wooden Spoon at 25s near miss.
ozy that should read another cracking rocket GUESS........
ozy sorry to stray from the subject but it looks like toutfingers has ditched you in favour of his new bumchum kingrat........hes hanging on his every word on the clonmel and cincinatti threads......it looks serious from where im sitting?
we have an open relationship, richters. that's how the university-educated liberal elite like to roll.
be better off if oneill had stayed.a new man will bring impetus.
Not sure what to make of the Di Canio appointment, don,t think its one for the pc brigade anyway
Di Canio seems to wear his heart on his sleeve, but he is doing ok. Sunderland won again today, so this bet by Rocket looks shaky. In fact to me it always seemed a bit of a dodgy bet, as enen as far back as March 23rd, it did look as though QPR.,(to my cost), were going south, with Reading so you were backing Sunderland to get that third relegation spot. Well in this situation anything can happen, and usually does. So in fairness rocket you didn't do the homework here. Out to 28 on here now. This third spot looks to be between Wigan and Villa now. Sunderland for 'relegation backers' need a small miracle, I will not be on my knees praying for that miracle though as I have a Laddies 7/1 Villa voucher from early August. I hope Wigan don't do their annual houdini act in 2013.........
this was looking great before they appointed the apparent motivational genius di canio
it was doomed from day one when it was tipped up by the guess merchant op.......
Bloody Martin O'Neill anyway, that's the 2nd time in as many seasons that O'Neill/Sunderland has done me.
I backed them to go down last season at 12/1, which was looking good until they sacked Steve Bruce and brought in Martin O'Neill, who then led the club to 13 points from their next 6 games, including beating Man City 1-0 on New Years Day.
Then this season he gets himself sacked when looking good for the drop and the new man saves them
The win at Newcastle was the key match in the end. If they had lost that they would have been mired in it down the relegation. As it turns out, they didn't, got great momentum from it and the rest is history
Roll on next year
I backed them to go down last season at 12/1, which was looking good until they sacked Steve Bruce and brought in Martin O'Neill, who then led the club to 13 points from their next 6 games, including beating Man City 1-0 on New Years Day.
Then this season he gets himself sacked when looking good for the drop and the new man saves them
The win at Newcastle was the key match in the end. If they had lost that they would have been mired in it down the relegation. As it turns out, they didn't, got great momentum from it and the rest is history
Roll on next year
They're safe now, more chance of my missus going down and that's saying something!
DB, Di Canio was an inspired appointment alright, yeah looks no hope for this bet as Wigan in particular look brutal.
, Di Canio was an inspired appointment alright, yeah looks no hope for this bet as Wigan in particular look brutal.
I would not be surprised to see Wigan stay up i think they're an ok side, they have a game in hand over Villa, better goal difference and i think they can certainly take something from the West Brom and Swansea game and maybe Spurs too. It will probably come down to the Villa match at home for them, might have something on the 9/4 Villa to go down.
Sunderland bet is gone.
Sunderland bet is gone.
If you think it's "gone" you can currently lay them at 42 for e58 to be relegated.
There is only one thing certain in this life.
There is only one thing certain in this life.
And thats taxes reb, and more taxes..............
If Stoke hang on and win they have two very difficult fixtures after at home to Southampton and away to Spurs.
Genuinely think you are unlucky if the bet doesnt come in. Watching last night was one of the worst games of football i have ever seen. 2 truly terrible teams who are completely dependent on set pieces to score. Neither showed any ability to create an opening of any sort. Desperate stuff
If anything was confirmed last night, its how bad McClean and Walters are as creative players.
If anything was confirmed last night, its how bad McClean and Walters are as creative players.
I think Wigan win tonight, i think they're a decent side against a michu less Swansea, it's not a game to get involved in (Certainly not in the match market) but imo as juicy as the Swans price looks i think they're not that near a value bet when you adjust for motivation and Michu.
Something unrelated about the bet and touching on Joe's point but would you be wise in the head forking out £500 to go to watch that Stoke side or even Sunderland. I know as a supporter it's thick and thin but that kind of football Stoke have played for 6 or 7 seasons under Pulis would really test you.
Something unrelated about the bet and touching on Joe's point but would you be wise in the head forking out £500 to go to watch that Stoke side or even Sunderland. I know as a supporter it's thick and thin but that kind of football Stoke have played for 6 or 7 seasons under Pulis would really test you.
goal difference could save sunderland.if wigan win tonight there will be 4 teams on 38 pts.sunderland have best g/d..it could be decisive sadly for us
After tonight's match Villa have to play Chelsea & Wigan have to play Arsenal before both teams play each other on the last day
The only realistic way I can see Sunderland to go down now is if one (or both) of Villa or Wigan beat one of the big guns this weekend and then that team loses to the other on the last day (eg Villa beat Chelsea and then lose to Wigan). Even then you would need Sunderland to get a max 2 points from their last 2 games or goal difference will keep them up.
The only realistic way I can see Sunderland to go down now is if one (or both) of Villa or Wigan beat one of the big guns this weekend and then that team loses to the other on the last day (eg Villa beat Chelsea and then lose to Wigan). Even then you would need Sunderland to get a max 2 points from their last 2 games or goal difference will keep them up.
db they play Southampton i'd have to fancy Southampton, Saints are a very decent side i make them 8th best side in the prem which may sound daft given their psoition. Then away to Spurs, i think 2 points would be a decent return and it will keep them up because of the GD, i think Norwich are in serious trouble they must win on Saturday and i'm not sure they will, Newcastle as poor as they are should beat QPR at the weekend. I think Wigan good enough to stay up, they're a better side compared to that Norwich for sure.
when you were out of the top flight as long as Stoke were, im sure the fans arent too pushed. Now that they re an established club in the PL, perhaps some of them would probably like a new more creative approach. In the 4 or 5 years they ve been back up I dont remember them having much relegation worries so fair play to Pulis for that
I think that is exactly what happened with them, i agree Pulis has done his job, i can see this being his last season in charge unless he is willing to change his style. Saying that they easily go down the following season if a new manager comes in, he'll need new players if they want to play a more attractive style.
Wigan have to get 3 points tonight. If they do I think they will survive as I would expect them to beat Aston Villa on the last day. If Wigan do win tonight I think Newcastle have a big problem.
Wigan were brutal...........surely gone this time, no more houdini escapes, bet is surely gone rocket..........
Surely, i would not totally write off Wigan from surviving but to lose tonight was massive Jay. They had a lot out although so did Swansea but Wigan were missing from the back and i think it showed. Feel sorry for them as i think when they play they're decent enough and i would still think they're better than a few sides a little higher up.
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