Just backed long run e/w for the gold cup....

Hills going 10/1 in the morning wr, for small money thought I suspect

GL

Is workrider another forum alias for Keen leader?

AS everyone on here knows ozy , Keen leader is different gravy to me when it comes to putting up bets on here...

Long Run-17 runs in total and never out of the first three.The ground drying out probably wouldn't be in his favour tho-looks to have lost some of his pace he had when winning the Feltam looks a dour stayer now.

I think they are only going £25 max kiddo 112

correct workrider barring accidents it really shouldnt be out of the 3......and given he hasnt been out of the 3 in his career i think bar hurrican fly  long run to place is the bet of the week......cant wait for ozys cheltenham write up....oh yes i forgot he hasnt got an opinion he leaches everyone elses.......

Still £25 e/w at 10s better than a kick in the ass

dj876 thats a valid point re the ground , i'm hoping it'll be no worse than good , Cant see them letting it get any faster .....Richters , poor ozy is whats known as a waster down here in Dublin ..All MOUTH AND NO IMPUT....

is this offer available online or just in shops?

Online too, from 9am

mobile and shops

Why are so many punters going on about Long run needing soft ground
TOTESPORT CHELTENHAM GOLD CUP CHASE GRADE 1
(Class 1) (5yo+) (3m2f110y) 3m2½f Good 22 fences
£285,050.00, £106,950.00, £53,550.00, £26,700.00, £13,400.00, £6,700.00

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«    1          Long Run (FR) 7/2F     6    11-10     Nicky Henderson    179    *    *    »
Mr S Waley-Cohen
          
 
«    2    7      Denman (IRE) 8/1    11    11-10     Paul Nicholls    179    *    *    »
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«    3    4      Kauto Star (FR) 5/1    11    11-10 t    Paul Nicholls    174    *    *    »
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          HE WON THE GOLD CUP ON GOOD GROUND,,HIS PRICE AT THE MIN ON BETFAIR IS 9.2 GET ON
 

i got 9.4 earlier frank ....... lump on lads before the price plummets....

ok thanks, good offer

its a joke frank i heard similar rantings on here about hurricane fly not wanting good either after him winning on good in 2011....absolute nonsense.......

I've backed him also a few weeks back think the cheek pieces will also help

Yes Frank that was two years ago,you don't think Long Run has lost some of his speed since then and is now more suited by a sterner test of stamina??

ITS all about value dj long run is only a 8 year old  ..9.2 is a great price ..keep the faith m8

Richters, even your messiah Wildman(read HF Thread) believes HF is more effective on soft ground. I see HF has gone from your nap of the meeting to your place bet of the festival,losing confidence??

Long run is a completely different horse since his novice days and even when he won the GC,anyone that can't see that hasn't been watching much racing.

read the thread again ffs....my best bet of the meeting bar the fly is long run to place........ffs man can ye not read.......to busy typing nonsense about soft ground and 2 horses that have won arguably the 2 biggest races of the festival on good in previous years....ffs dont let anyone hear ye...........go and contribute on scumfingers silly moronic threads that would suit ye better....you seem to be of the same attention span to him.......

richters • February 17, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
"nap of the meeting imo....ruby wont be so far off the pace this time.......no mistakes this year...."

No point in debating anything with you,not much between the ears.No knowledge of racing,should stick to your inciteful provisional comments

whats your point....can you not read.........you are contradicting yourself with your copy and paste

How are my contradicting yourself??,that is a quote from you,give me strength.

contradicting myself even

READ:ok and read slow.... i think bar hurrican fly  long run to place is the bet of the week....meaning hurricane fly win is my bet of the week.......

richters appears to be correct in this instance, i suspect u may have misread his posts dj, thats just based on a quick skim mind you.

Yes ozy -It's hard to read his pigeon english.
apologies but he is still clueless

well thankyou sir ozy........i take it all back.....lol....

calm down, richters, I have your back here

remeber you advice to scp dj.....advising him to back sound investment the nicholls horse ew.....yip 1st post on the thread.........yip 4/9 fav....yip ew......and have the neck to call me clueless...........your making this stuff up as ye go along ffs........hf  and long run wont want good ground....did ye ever hear the equal.....your in the process of being laughed out of this forum......

Sarcasm my friend-obviously went over your head!

Hopefully the ground will be good next week and we will see who is right but if you can't see that LR has lost a lot of his pace since that race and HF is a far more effective horse with give on that ground -Well then there is very little hope for you,stick to you mug bets at Meydan ,GL.

owkay fanks dj.......as long as l.rs does what hes done in every race hes ever run i will be proven right.....fanks again and sorry for making a KOC K ota ye dj.....and gl at cheltenham

I never said LR won't place on Friday week,I just said he'd be more effective with a bit off cut.As for HF as long as the ground is good -I would be very surprised if he wins,what piece of form this year makes you think he is back to his 2011 form??

dj what line of granduoets form do ye think is good enough to beat hf....imo hf would beat ror 9/10 times...last year being the one exception......hf was champion in 2011 and 3rd last year after a well below par run coupled with a terrible effort in the saddle.....so this years prep runs in ireland are irrelevant to me.....the form im interested in is c&d.......and with the stable in bullish mood i cannot see a repeat of last years debacle.......grandouet has undoubted claims but the lack of a recent run is a worry i  must say......good luck anyway dj.....

Being honest,Nicky Henderson's lack of comment on Grandouet is worrying.There is rain forecast in Cheltenham over the next few days,in which case I wouldn't be against HF(Has to be good to soft or better to lay)Gl.

My opinion is Long Run is a plodding pig, he won the Gold Cup because better horses took each other on too far out and he simply outstayed them. That is not to say he cannot win again this year but i will be disguisted if there is not at least one better than him, namely Sir Des Champs and Bobs Worth.

ive been notcting up small bets on cape tribulation at nice prices for the gc, had him last year in chelt and aintree at 20/1 each time.  if pn or nh trained him, he would only be around 8/1 this year.  I love long run and I love the fact he has never fallen, but at the prices I am happy with the 33/1 Im got with laddies.

Ha!  H1lls took all of 10e e/w at 10/1...not worth rolling out of the scratcher for

hills. chancers. only got 11.49 ew on at 10-1.

See what i mean , a , p.r. stunt as usual by them ....Glad to see this thread is now back on a racing topic ....Premier i would have thought along those lines re l/run , but having watched the k/george over and over i must admit I've changed my mind ...He showed tremendous courage to fight his way back into it , having looked beaten at the last after making a terrible error he clawed his way back and won going way in the end ...In last years race he got the mother of all rides , Young waley cohen got him into a barging match from 5 out , Never did he move to the outside at any stage , insisting on going between horse .Which in the end cost him the race , allowing a'p to get a run at him at the last , He should have kicked on at the top of the hill and used his stamina ...I hope that given a good ride he'll be there or there abouts....

Wonky he beat a non stayer in the King George.  He is a slow boat but slow boats can win the Gold Cup.  Would be amazed if he beat the two at the top of the market especially with the clown riding him.

That's the downside alright littleman, but he pays the bills ....so is entitled to ride him , D O' REGAN has never won the gold cup yet this clown has.....

2013 d o regan

Wonky id say i would have won on Long Run that year.  Gold cup is the worst of the top races at the festival.  Much better race if it was over 3 Miles.  The extra 1/4 mile gives the plodders a chance.  Some of the winners and placed horses over the past few years have been poor enough horses.

   good man newmanix ..actually he's the ideal type of jockey for cape....

I agree fully littleman , The reason its over that distance is to make sure a real stayer only wins it ....That's why a horse of ONE MANS caliber never won it ...Its a championship race over the CLASSIC national hunt distance ....

i think the application of head gear is unnecessary and could backfire .too much of a risk imo.

Its c/pieces  not blinkers or a hood so wouldn't be put off by that....

imagine an Hernando winning the GC

LR is a cert for a place imo,Not so sure about his chances of winning it though,

i just keep been swayed to First Lieutenant and the genius of Mouse Morris having his horses 100% Spot on for the only races that matter,
The man does it time and time again and think FL will be next on his list.

I agree cheltenhamroar , I bet he is burning the ear off Michael this very minute  to let him run ..Few better than Mouse at getting one ready for a big day....

Workrider,Make no mistake,Mouse knows he's a GC Horse,if it's up to Mouse there'd be Zero chance of him lining up in the Ryanair,

i just hope Mr O'Leary lets him take his chance in the GC,Are we any closer to knowing which race he'll take his chance in?

With Davy taking the mount on SDC,i take it Bryan Cooper would be in for a very exciting ride were he to take his chance in the GC,Although a certain Mr McCoy would be available...

I cannot for the life of me see why long run is a certainty for a place,in fact i would have thought he may well finish out with the washing. He has no line of form ever that would make anybody fancy him. I could give 10 reasons why he wont win,and cant think of any why he will.

jimeen,C'mon don't be silly,He's a 2 time King George winner as well as a previous GC winner.Has never Fallen and has never finished out of the first 3 in 24 lifetime starts,

what have u been smoking?

Long run was the top 4yo in france when Waley Cohen splashed out the huge fee, so he has plenty miles on the clock now. He would have been at his peak of his powers the year of his sun alliance chase where he was slaughtered by weapons amnesty. The gold cup he won was against two old stagers way past there best,he managed to get beat last year in one of the worst renewals ever. He has first time cheekpieces,worst rider in the race,and is up against some top newcomers to the scene. Scrambling home against captain chris is hardly earth shattering form,and also silvianaco conti has a verdict over him as well this year. He actually got beat by kauto star in the king george when that horse was rising 12 years of age. What do you think bobs worth, sir des champs and co will do to him?

Fair points jimeen,i just think its a bit harsh in the way u dismiss his chances out of hand as if he's never won a decent race,
He is a very consistent horse at the highest level if nothing else,i wont be backing him to win but i do respect his chances.

I'm not an acquaintance of Mouse Morris but I spoke to him last week at Thurles and for what its worth I said I thought First L.. had a great squeak in the Gold Cup, he said without a blink "will you tell them that, staying is all he does"

He may have won decent races,but has been lucky to face either below average or veteran fields. If he cant contain synchronised and co,he will surely struggle this year. I dont think anybody will argue that this years is a much better race. I think he has no chance myself,but thats the game,doctors differ and patients die.

You could well be right jimeen,and i find it hard to disagree with u re last years renewal,Sync was no world beater,and the Giant Bolster is bang average,Well not that long until we find out,im happy to side with First Lieutenant,If he's allowed take his chance that is!!

Surely wherever First Lieutenant finishes Bobs Worth will be in front of him.

You'd think that Tolmi,But were talking about Mouse Morris here,i very much doubt he was anywhere near 100% fit in the Hennessy.

At Cheltenham you can be assured he will be.

I watched last years Sun Alliance again over the weekend and I thought that the extra trip would suit Bobs Worth even more.

How could i have missed that , He ONLY beat KAUTO AND DENMAN when winning his gold cup ...As jimmen rightly says lads he only beat rubbish....

to be fair workrider....me thinks that kauto and denman wer well past ther sell bye dates by then mate....

Maybe they were scp...Kauto went on to have a cracker of a year after ....

no reply from scp/mag

denman went on to aintree where he went off 5/4 fav and was beaten 25 lts by nacarat and kauto went on to win 2 of his next 4 starts and pulled up the other twice times....as i said before....both past their sell bye dates by then me thinks....case closed mates...!!

TIPPING LINE CLOSED ALSO

md special on aw friday....as has become standard procedure last few weeks....patience now decalec me mate...!!

WUD RATHER BUILD SAND CASTLES THAN BET HORSES ON THAT SURFACE UNLESS U KNOW SOMETHING FORGET IT AND ANY1 TIPPING THEM ON HERE FORGET THAT ALSO

southwell (tues and wed) wolver (thurs) and lingers (friday).....will be watching dem a lot closer than chelt nxt week and that iz for sure...

YES WE HAVE SOME1 LIKE THAT IN THE LOCAL BAR, WANTS TO WATCH THESE RACES HAVING BET SOME 8/13 OR 2/5 POKE OR MAYBE BOTH IN A DBL, THIS GUY WORKED ALL HIS LIFE EARLY RETIREMENT RENTS A FEW HOUSES HAS A NICE PENSION CANT SEE PAST THE X OR KNOWS WHAT REAL RACING IS AND THE BOOKIES LOVE HIM

ok....i rarely if ever bet odds on shots on the aw...i dont rent any houses either mate to be honest....the one thing the both us have in common is that we both took early retirement me thinks...!!

HOPE YOUR DOING BETTER THAN HIM AND I MEAN THAT IF IT WORKS FOR YOU WELL DONE DONT WANT TO SEE ANY1 LOSE WELL NEARLY ANY1

i will have a far greater edge on those 4 meetings nxt week compared to chelt...so will jst watch chelt replayz of it in the evening me thinks....

Waley-Cohen feels Long Run heads into Friday's Betfred Cheltenham Gold Cup a better horse than the one who finished third last year.
On that occasion he found Synchronised and The Giant Bolster too good but warmed up for this year's renewal by landing the William Hill King George VI Chase at Kempton.

The jockey told Channel Four Racing: "He goes into the race in really good form. He's a horse I've got to grow up with and know really well. With a week to go we're there with a really live contender.

The Giant Bolster probably best fits the category of "genuine plodder"

Great value to be had EW over 3.25 miles of the undulating track.

He traded 1.33 I/R in the win market last year.

If he did somehow win however, I wouldn't blame Rodi Greene for having mixed feelings about such a situation...

If Long Run wins the gold cup I'll give the game up

well i tell u,the fitting of check pieces is a big mistake and is going to buzz him early.lay him for a place

11/2 now wr.......i must say wr your post during the week re the cheltenham ticket shows your character........a credit to ye workrider.......not a fantasising non bettor like the pin headed guessmerchant scumfingers......anyway im hoping this place bets lands for us 2mora.....

Thanks richters , my 3 a/p bets today are as follows Dalkali , Long Run ,  Ballycasey...I'm having a great Cheltenham thank God  22/1 25/1 10/1 winners so far.If any of these win it'll be the icing on the cake ......

Rain f/cast before the big race will help Long run but i do fear Bobs worth. outside of backing Long run PP had a bet the other day a reverse f/cast 11/1 on both of them. should be a great race. WELL done WR on your bets.

Wonky aftertiming! Whats new

The difference between me and you littleman is I can PROVE my bets , unlike yourself...

WR . FAIR PLAY YOU HAVE HAD DECENT WEEK SO FAR  MY YANKEE OUR CONOR/AT FISHERS CROSS/BOBS WORTH /ALDERWOOD  .

ILL RING U WEN HOME MON  SEE IF YOU FANCY THURS FRI @AINTREE

Ballycasey N/R

ok norn ...looking at my a/post bets ballycasey out is a huge loss for me ...I've been backing this lad a/p since willie told me he thought it had a right chance .........

any sign of dj?....lol......

you have a nice yankee going norn i hope it clicks for you.
good luck with alderwood.

very well done norn

Norn hasn't rang yet ....Group 4 calling at his house right now .......Well done mate....

Norn hasn't rang yet ....Group 4 calling at his house right now .......Well done mate....

Well done norn.

n1 norn  hope you took the best prices,

and again dj....ta

Again ground was stipulated as it had to be good-this was 2 weeks before the race.Please do check my contributions dickie


dj876 • March 5, 2013 10:32 PM GMT
Long Run-17 runs in total and never out of the first three.The ground drying out probably wouldn't be in his favour tho-looks to have lost some of his pace he had when winning the Feltam looks a dour stayer now

can you stipulate ground conditions to betfair when you lay these beasts?did you get a refund?

Richters the guy has Every angle covered ffs........Thought you'd enjoy the smiley dj , ah damn it , heres another one for good measure....

The point you are missing is that you tried to belittle both my and workriders opinions on the said races but this is par for the course for you on here.....i could go on.....

good on ya wonky.......yer really showin yer colours now.......when the wildklan sees this he'll find it hard to defend ya.......