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Don't really see the benefit of sending the man to jail for 3 years
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Now lets have some bankers, politicians and contractors go to prison for defrauding an entire nation?
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Don't think its a matter to really "Discuss" Suitangi,a sorry episode for the man in question and a miserable Christmas for himself and family.
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Paddy power closed my account because i won a few grand but they let this bloke turn over 10 million, I think this is the forum to discuss chief
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Surely there should be some onus on the bookmakers to question a customers source of income when punting escalates to the levels involved here. At the very least they should be considering money laundering and fraudulent means
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The only questions raised by the bookmaker whilst this bloke was in action were related to the limits and making sure he could get as much on as he wanted
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Your circumstances are an entirely different matter and maybe better if you highlighted your above one in your opening post.
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This is an incredible (but true) story.
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The following six months he lost the run of himself, the court heard, and was involved in sporadic, random and worldwide bets, including betting €40,000 on the outcome of a match involving the Norwegian women's soccer team.
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lapsy pa dishing out the forum rules
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"that he still lives in an ordinary, modest house;"
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Surely they could of seen by looking at the address linked to his account that he couldnt afford to be wagering the amounts he was betting in?
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I,m not dishing out anything, you put a piece up asking to discuss the misery of a mans case with only a later addition of why you maybe wanted discussed. Belt away.
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The misery of a thief/ the 1.7 million gain for an online bookmaker, think it is an appropriate place to discuss personally. I guess we'll see by the amount of posts it achieves....
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An Post also need to answer how it took them 14 months to notice 1.4 million missing. For a start does anyone ever count the 50k bundles of 50's for missing plier fulls
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Was this a misprint lads ?? "When the account was examined, it was found that over the period of time, it had a turnover of €10m, with €8.3m in winnings and €1.7m in losses" ............ Surely the other way round , 8.3million in losses ???
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Think it means total staked 10m, total returns 8.3m, total losses 1.7m.
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Mick,I presume they mean 8.3m collected/returned to his account (including the stakes) of a total of 10m bet Mick.
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thanks tolmi ....sorry that makes sense now ...for a split second i thought it read that he was up 6.6million !!!!!!! ....stupid me :) ............ i m an even bigger muppet to think that Powers would lay someone who would be winning like that off them !!! ...
so powers win 1 .7 million of a fella who probably was normally betting in 20 s and 50 s and all of a sudden starts punting in thousands and didn t suspect anything themselves .... yeah right ted !!! |
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thanks dj876 and i totally agree with your sentiments towards powers
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How could someone get 40k on a womens soccer match in Norway??
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This is a horrible story. How many others are losing stolen money to bookmakers? Look forward to reading about it in the racing papers over the next few days.
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id say you could get a damn sight more than 40k on in asia
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If by some stretch of the imagination he had "clicked" and got ahead would the story have been different ? Would he have put the money back ( and how ) and would his account have been closed ? And what about the spoutings we see occasionally from "responsible" gambling operators ? And any other bookies involved ?
Knew about a similar case ( inflation wise probably similar figures ) way back , fellow I knew well , all bets for cash though in same bookies I frequented . He knocked his employer for over 100k in those days ( semi- d £2500 in Belfast in those days ) over a period ( undefined ) -- not sure of time scale . Worst punter I ever saw . Clueless . Supposedly jumped from a cliff , no body ever found . Put the bookie concerned on his feet from what I knew , finished up with quite a few offices from modest beginnings . But things have changed nowadays , and there is a paper trail , and there are computers , and I know someone( intelligent) who helped set up computer programs for the bookies a while ago etc . Cant believe some lights did not flash . Interesting to see any fallout from this story . |
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he should have gambled in bigger stakes hundreds of millions,wouldn't have got jailed then,like the corrupt politicians,judges,bankers etc,persecute the small man and throw away the key,indulge the corrupt s **** that did the real damage to society,this guy inflicted the damage on his employer and his family,a prison sentence serves no purpose.
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ffs 5cum
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The lights flashed alright Kelly, and trips to the Aviva, the Curragh and Punchestown followed. Shame on them.
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Often wondered about these sporting junkets , Hardly , never been on one financed by a bookie . Do they only take along the mug punters ? One other guy I knew was also a useless punter , lost lots to a prominent bookie , he always got Christmas cards and hampers etc . Eventually emigrated to South Africa where apparently the only bookies are on course ( or used to be in those days 35 years ago ) , so he couldn't gamble . Fair play to him wising up .
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I'd imagine Paddies are taking legal advice and being told by said legal eagles to keep their heads down.
The wrongs of this case are obvious for all to see but if they admit culpability it could open the floodgates for cases all over the shop. The fact that we can only dream of getting 40K(if we had it) on any event is irrelevant and has been dealt with on Joe Duffy in the past. I can't get anything worthwhile with any online bookie coz I will only take top price, and any kid starting with a blank canvas will find themselves in the same position after 3 months regardless of their balance sheet. |
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has attended courses at addiction centres, wants to become an addiction counsellor and has co-operated fully with gardaÃ................does it not sicken ye when these guys who have just made **** of their lives all off a sudden think they have the ability to help everyone else..
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Does anyone remember a case of a shop employee fiddling the books to do something similar? Vaguely recall it being a Chinese fella, working in Centra on Pearse St - could be wrong though. The sums weren't the same, but I remember being shocked by the number of bets he was averaging a day. Tried googling it there but can't find anything.
Really think gambling addiction is such a disease in this country, too much of the "oh he is a great fella for a bet" attitude, much like the drinking. But as they say, you can only drink so much... |
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There's something wrong about a situation where An Post are defrauded out of 1.75m euros, the man who took the money goes to jail, and Paddy Power walk away with all the cash.
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Confirms my long held view that the PP outfit are the absolute dregs.
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Well said Vubiant.It could be strongly argued by their non action in alerting authorities at the time of AN Post manager going on tilt they agravated the situation.Corporate responsibility how are you.
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They knew he didn't have a clue. A successful gambler will specialise in one or two sports, and his stakes will not vary greatly. This guy was chasing losses by going big on short price bets, and in a multitude of sports.
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This is too important to let it slip down the page.
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Amazing that there has been no comment from the kings of pr themselves - no pictures of scantily clad girls running around the post office - case is an absolute disgrace and it's outrageous that the powers that be (excuse the pun) aren't taking Powers to task on this - oh but of course they can't becuase they're stuck in their back pocket - shocking stuff
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They will probably announce another 2000 mythical jobs to be created by 2016 to keep the pressure of their backs!!
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just shows the parasites that pp are..not a comment.and they kept tking the money.i know a few people who got money and its now lost to the big bookies in ireland..lots of wining and dining etc..poor fcukers now penniless..
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