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19 Dec 12 14:51
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A former post office manager has been sentenced to four years in prison after stealing €1.75m.
Wexford Circuit Court heard 37-year-old Tony O'Reilly from Hackettstown Road, Carlow town, took the money over a 14-month period to feed his gambling habit.
It included putting a bet of €40,000 on a game involving the Norwegian women's soccer team.
O'Reilly pleaded guilty to 14 charges of theft and falsifying accounts when he was branch manager of the post office in Gorey, Co Wexford in 2010 and 2011.
The incidents only came to light in June of last year when a regional audit was being done.
Wexford Circuit Court heard O'Reilly had developed a chronic gambling problem.
He had an account called Tony 10 with Paddy Power bookmakers.
When the account was examined, it was found that over the period of time, it had a turnover of €10m, with €8.3m in winnings and €1.7m in losses.
Detective Ian Hayes of Gorey Garda Station had told the court that O'Reilly said the theft started at the post office by sometimes taking a bag of coins from a larger bag, which then was not checked.
If it was a bag of €2 coins, he would replace it with a bag of 2c coins so as not to highlight the weight difference.
In April 2010, O'Reilly had taken around €8,000, which increased over the months to €60,000 and by the end of the year he had taken €290,000.
At that stage, to cover himself during an audit, he brought an accountable receipt for €97,538 into the toilet with him at work and changed it to €397,538, thus concealing the misappropriation.
The following six months he lost the run of himself, the court heard, and was involved in sporadic, random and worldwide bets, including betting €40,000 on the outcome of a match involving the Norwegian women's soccer team.
His method of taking money out of the post office included removing €50 notes with a pliers from the middle of a bundle of notes containing €50,000.
Gardaí said O'Reilly, who is married and has a two-year-old child and lives in Carlow, co-operated at all times with them.
He joined An Post in 1998, and worked for a time in Tallaght before returning to Carlow.
In 2009 was appointed manager in Gorey. He was known as "The Golden Child" in An Post because he was so young when appointed manager.
His defence counsel said O’Reilly did not benefit at all from the money; that he still lives in an ordinary, modest house; and that Paddy Power bookmakers had viewed him as a highly valued customer, even bringing him on all expenses trips to the Europa League Final in Dublin and the Irish Derby race meeting.
He also said alarm bells should have gone off with the bookmakers.
The court heard O'Reilly has given up gambling completely, has attended courses at addiction centres, wants to become an addiction counsellor and has co-operated fully with gardaí.
This morning Judge Pauline Codd said O'Reilly had the pattern of somebody out of control, and as he said himself, had lost the run of himself.
She said he had engaged in a serious breach of trust over a significant period of time and his theft was deliberate and systematic.
She also said he had disappeared for 11 days after the theft was discovered.
In mitigating factors, she said he had no previous convictions, came from a respectful family, what he did was totally out of character, he was in the throes of a gambling addiction, accepts fully and sincerely regrets his actions and has taken significant steps at addiction counselling.
She added he was at a low risk of reoffending and he assisted the gardaí fully after his return and pleaded guilty, thus saving a lengthy garda investigation.
Each charge carried a maximum sentence of ten years.
She sentenced him to four years in prison but suspended the final year on condition that when he comes out of prison he attends further gambling addiction counselling.
Members of his family were in court and his wife broke down in tears when the sentence was being handed down.
The bookmakers Paddy Power has not yet commented on the case.

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By:
db1974
When: 19 Dec 12 15:02
Don't really see the benefit of sending the man to jail for 3 years
By:
silvergreaser
When: 19 Dec 12 15:09
Now lets have some bankers, politicians and contractors go to prison for defrauding an entire nation?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Dec 12 15:35
Don't think its a matter to really "Discuss" Suitangi,a sorry episode for the man in question and a miserable Christmas for himself and family.
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 15:37
Paddy power closed my account because i won a few grand but they let this bloke turn over 10 million, I think this is the forum to discuss chief
By:
moneypenny
When: 19 Dec 12 15:39
Surely there should be some onus on the bookmakers to question a customers source of income when punting escalates to the levels involved here. At the very least they should be considering money laundering and fraudulent means
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 15:40
The only questions raised by the bookmaker whilst this bloke was in action were related to the limits and making sure he could get as much on as he wanted
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Dec 12 15:45
Your circumstances are an entirely different matter and maybe better if you highlighted your above one in your opening post.
By:
reb
When: 19 Dec 12 15:45
This is an incredible (but true) story.
By:
punchestown
When: 19 Dec 12 15:45
The following six months he lost the run of himself, the court heard, and was involved in sporadic, random and worldwide bets, including betting €40,000 on the outcome of a match involving the Norwegian women's soccer team. CrazyCrazy
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 15:47
lapsy pa dishing out the forum rules
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 15:50
"that he still lives in an ordinary, modest house;"
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 15:51
Surely they could of seen by looking at the address linked to his account that he couldnt afford to be wagering the amounts he was betting in?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Dec 12 15:51
I,m not dishing out anything, you put a piece up asking to discuss the misery of a mans case with only a later addition of why you maybe wanted discussed. Belt away.
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 15:53
The misery of a thief/ the 1.7 million gain for an online bookmaker, think it is an appropriate place to discuss personally. I guess we'll see by the amount of posts it achieves....
By:
moneypenny
When: 19 Dec 12 15:55
An Post also need to answer how it took them 14 months to notice 1.4 million missing. For a start does anyone ever count the 50k bundles of 50's for missing plier fullsGrin
By:
dinglemick
When: 19 Dec 12 16:39
Was this a misprint lads ??  "When the account was examined, it was found that over the period of time, it had a turnover of €10m, with €8.3m in winnings and €1.7m in losses" ............ Surely the other way round , 8.3million in losses ???
By:
Tolmi
When: 19 Dec 12 16:46
Think it means total staked 10m, total returns 8.3m, total losses 1.7m.
By:
dj876
When: 19 Dec 12 16:48
Mick,I presume they mean 8.3m collected/returned to his account (including the stakes) of a total of 10m bet Mick.

Personally I think a thread discussing PP actions or lack of actions would be a more suitable thread than discussing the personnel(family) involved.
By:
dinglemick
When: 19 Dec 12 16:52
thanks tolmi ....sorry that makes sense now ...for a split second i thought it read that he was up 6.6million !!!!!!! ....stupid me :) ............ i m an even bigger muppet to think that Powers would lay someone who would be winning like that off them !!! ...

so powers win 1 .7 million of a fella who probably was normally betting in 20 s and 50 s and all of a sudden starts punting in thousands and  didn t suspect anything themselves .... yeah right ted !!!
By:
dinglemick
When: 19 Dec 12 16:53
thanks dj876 and i totally agree with your sentiments towards powers
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 19 Dec 12 17:01
How could someone get 40k on a womens soccer match in Norway??

No matter how much you are losing
By:
hardlyuseless
When: 19 Dec 12 17:01
This is a horrible story. How many others are losing stolen money to bookmakers? Look forward to reading about it in the racing papers over the next few days.
By:
suitangi
When: 19 Dec 12 17:12
id say you could get a damn sight more than 40k on in asia
By:
Kelly
When: 19 Dec 12 17:30
If by some stretch of the imagination he had "clicked" and got ahead would the story have been different ?  Would he have put the money back ( and how ) and would his account have been closed ? And what about the spoutings we see occasionally from "responsible" gambling operators ? And any other bookies involved ?

Knew about a similar case ( inflation wise probably similar figures ) way back , fellow I knew well , all bets for cash though in same bookies I frequented . He knocked his employer for over 100k in those days ( semi- d £2500 in Belfast in those days ) over a period ( undefined ) -- not sure of time scale  .  Worst punter I ever saw . Clueless . Supposedly jumped from a cliff , no body ever found .  Put the bookie concerned on his feet from what I knew , finished up with quite a few offices from modest beginnings .

But things have changed nowadays , and there is a paper trail , and there are computers , and I know someone( intelligent) who helped set up computer programs for the bookies a while ago etc . Cant believe some lights did not flash . Interesting to see any fallout from this story .
By:
Punting for Profit
When: 19 Dec 12 17:41
he should have gambled in bigger stakes hundreds of millions,wouldn't have got jailed then,like the corrupt politicians,judges,bankers etc,persecute the small man and throw away the key,indulge the corrupt s **** that did the real damage to society,this guy inflicted the damage on his employer and his family,a prison sentence serves no purpose.
By:
Punting for Profit
When: 19 Dec 12 17:41
ffs 5cum
By:
hardlyuseless
When: 19 Dec 12 17:48
The lights flashed alright Kelly, and trips to the Aviva, the Curragh and Punchestown followed. Shame on them.
By:
Kelly
When: 19 Dec 12 19:01
Often wondered about these sporting junkets , Hardly , never been on one financed by a bookie .  Do they only take along the mug punters ? One other guy I knew was also a useless punter  , lost lots to a prominent bookie , he always got Christmas cards and hampers etc . Eventually emigrated to South Africa where apparently the only bookies are on course ( or used to be in those days 35 years ago )  , so he couldn't gamble .  Fair play to him wising up .
By:
Cupwinkcook
When: 19 Dec 12 20:46
I'd imagine Paddies are taking legal advice and being told by said legal eagles to keep their heads down.

The wrongs of this case are obvious for all to see but if they admit culpability it could open the floodgates for cases all over the shop.

The fact that we can only dream of getting 40K(if we had it) on any event is irrelevant and has been dealt with on Joe Duffy in the past.

I can't get anything worthwhile with any online bookie coz I will only take top price, and any kid starting with a blank canvas will find themselves in the same position after 3 months regardless of their balance sheet.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 19 Dec 12 21:44
has attended courses at addiction centres, wants to become an addiction counsellor and has co-operated fully with gardaí................does it not sicken ye when these guys who have just made **** of their lives  all off a sudden think they have the ability to help everyone else..
By:
kiddo112
When: 19 Dec 12 22:13
Does anyone remember a case of a shop employee fiddling the books to do something similar? Vaguely recall it being a Chinese fella, working in Centra on Pearse St - could be wrong though. The sums weren't the same, but I remember being shocked by the number of bets he was averaging a day. Tried googling it there but can't find anything.

Really think gambling addiction is such a disease in this country, too much of the "oh he is a great fella for a bet" attitude, much like the drinking. But as they say, you can only drink so much...
By:
Blackwater
When: 20 Dec 12 20:29
There's something wrong about a situation where An Post are defrauded out of 1.75m euros, the man who took the money goes to jail, and Paddy Power walk away with all the cash.
By:
Vubiant
When: 20 Dec 12 20:41
Confirms my long held view that the PP outfit are the absolute dregs.
By:
vantastic54
When: 20 Dec 12 21:54
Well said Vubiant.It could be strongly argued by their non action in alerting authorities at the time of AN Post manager going on tilt they agravated the situation.Corporate responsibility how are you.
By:
kincsem
When: 20 Dec 12 22:10
They knew he didn't have a clue.  A successful gambler will specialise in one or two sports, and his stakes will not vary greatly.  This guy was chasing losses by going big on short price bets, and in a multitude of sports.
By:
hardlyuseless
When: 21 Dec 12 13:07
This is too important to let it slip down the page.
By:
Poohna
When: 21 Dec 12 13:13
Amazing that there has been no comment from the kings of pr themselves - no pictures of scantily clad girls running around the post office - case is an absolute disgrace and it's outrageous that the powers that be (excuse the pun) aren't taking Powers to task on this - oh but of course they can't becuase they're stuck in their back pocket - shocking stuff
By:
suitangi
When: 21 Dec 12 13:22
They will probably announce another 2000 mythical jobs to be created by 2016 to keep the pressure of their backs!!
By:
kavvie
When: 21 Dec 12 14:08
just shows the parasites that pp are..not a comment.and they kept tking the money.i know a few people who got money and its now lost to the big bookies in ireland..lots of wining and dining etc..poor fcukers now penniless..
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