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He may be a poor referee but the point is to get their point across they play the racism card,this elevation of a particular group to untouchable status is having disastrous results for them they are going around like Victorian spinsters being offended all the time.
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Well we don't what was said so you can't make a comment saying that he's played the race card. I'm sure someone will break it in the next few days. To be fair i can't remember too many Black players falsely accusing another player of being racist. Black do have a history of being racially abused and discriminated against Wildman.
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They are not discriminated in football.
The comical element of this was the statement thatvClattenburg used inappropriate language to two players but as one was white it doesn't matter. |
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Are you sure about that, How many black players have you seen manage a club in the EPL or in any league for that matter?
The rumour i heard is that Clattenburg said something like "Well you won't be winning today" to Mata, interesting what else he said but the first thing is a stupid thing to say, why say it if he said it? |
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Is Chris Hughton not black enough for you,Terry Connor was a big success at Wolves think Paul Ince and John Barnes were just failures.
There is a distinct lack of English managers now is that discrimination. |
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Rumour going around that an Asian gambling crowd had huge stakes on a Man Utd victory and fingers are been pointed at the referee.
It doesn't just happen in Italian football, ffs they raise the weights in Irish racing to accomodate one individual at a whim. corruption is all around us!. |
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Terry Connor didn't win a single EPL game in 14 matches as caretaker manager of Wolves IIRC.
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Well done Silvergreaser you managed to get your OBrien obsession on this thread.
Was that referee in financial trouble before? I am sure Rocketfingers will be able to update us on this Asian market slant. |
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wildman I never shirk from the truth, only I'm not allowed tell it?
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I am not doubting you but I think you are wrong about the OBriens and feel it is eating away at you which is a pity as your racing analysis when you do it is generally top class.
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It was never about the O'Briens, it was the integrity of the people that run Irish racing that has always galled me, imo they're stinking.
If ever an investigative journalist fancied a story look no further than the people who run Irish racing, "best seller". |
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Certainly the Brosnan Coolmore connection worth looking at,you only have to look at the shenanigans in the Irish National stud to realise the potential for villainy.
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Thats it wildman the Brosnan influence was like an all consuming cloak, as long as a certain conglomerate were satisfied, and they were accomodated in spades, shush!.
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Borneo, I think I will swerve this discussion. You know my views. I will agree with you that the race card is being overplayed at the moment. However, I think you lack appreciation of and sensitivity towards the core issue. Let us not enter a debate on the subject again.
On a tangential note, Paul Ryan the US VP candidate is a Tipperary man (grandfather or great grandfather, can't remember). Where does he hail from and is bunting being prepared? He may well be the main candidate in the next election if the Republicans don't succeed this time. |
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There was an excellent article in last weeks Sunday Times (21-Oct-12) along a similar vein to the OP. Basically the journalist was asking why racial chants/abuse etc are given so much prominence over other abuse from the terraces. All across Europe people are calling for Serbia to be sanctioned and/or banned for the racial abuse meted out to England's U21 black players. While I agree that sanctions should be imposed why are other incidents of abuse from the terraces being tolerated/accepted by the football community. A few days after the Serbia match, Leeds fans spent most of the match taunting the Sheffield Wednesday manager Dave Jones over allegations of child abuse which occurred almost 13 years previously, charges where he was completely exonerated by the trial judge (at least one of the victims has subsequently been found to have completely fabricated their claim against Jones). One Leeds fan then punched the Sheffield Wednesday goalkeeper just after Leeds equalised. At the end of the match Leeds players then went over to the Leeds fans to applaud them for their support! At the same match, Wednesday fans sang several songs about former Leeds fan, Jimmy Saville. Yet there has not been one call for sanctions against either club for these incidents.
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The title of this thread is at best inappropriate.
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Agreed.
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Ozymandius that is a genuine response and one I admire,it is possible to vehemently disagree with someone yet respect them.
With a name like Ryan he had to have Tipp connections but I have yet to hear where he allegedly hails from,they now go back so far it is nearly meaningless.I don't live far from Moneygall which I always thought was in Tipperary but when Obama came to town those Offaly lads nicked our town,with Reagan hailing from Ballyporeen it is only a matter of time we will be changing Tipperary from being the home of hurling to the home of American presidents. Db1974 the Leeds fans were chanting pro Saville songs one was "Jimmy Savile is Leeds he can shag who he wants" unpleasant stuff but tribalism and hard to eliminate. The Icchantika why is the title inappropriate ? |
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Kilkenny are trying to do an Offaly and muscle in on your glory, Borneo.
Read more: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-The-Paul-Ryan-American-dream----fleeing-famine-in-Ireland-to-Vice-Presidential-ticket--166091386.html#ixzz2AmXpFKrM “It goes back five generations to the potato famine.” "James Ryan came over and settled in Rock County." The elder Ryan brother went on to explain that their family most likely hail from County Tipperary, but there is a possibility they hail from Kilkenny. |
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It's got like a redress board loads of claimants.
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So Paul Ryan hails from a family who did a runner when times were tough. Not the best genes for a US President I would have thought!
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That statement would apply to all Irish emigrants,'twas the tough times caused them all to leave.
Anyone else think Chelsea are mad pursuing this,it seems to me like a fit of pique.If it is found to be a fabrication they will surely face severe sanctions,if it is found to be true and Clattenborg is kicked out of refereeing it will only show the contrast of treatment between him and Terry,it is an absolute no win situation for them.Also their assailing of the referee after the match is a bad precedent he almost seems to have been under siege in his changing room. |
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Because it is a racial slur and has no place in modern society. Stick to conversing with your fellow 66 year olds.
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^ The icchantika didn,t you once refer to the people of Cork as "pigs", hypocrisy and two facedness of the highest order in my opinion.
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A bit ageist too has that a place in modern society.
It is not a racial slur as given people special protection is an inverted form of racism,if we are all equal then no need for special rules for favoured groups. |
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.....are you a racist wildmanfromborneo?.....
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It depends on your definition,if by racist you mean thinking your race superior to another then no but if you mean having preferences for races then yes.
It is a term now so devalued that it is just a term of abuse aimed at groups you don't like.The modern trend is globalisation this is market led for this to succeed you must crush any nationalism ergo all nationalists are racists this is why the European Union are trying to eliminate all differences,our currency is gone our system of weights and measures gone and if we had restored our language they would be gunning for that as well. I admire the British as a race,unpopular here I know but heck that's just how I feel,I don't admire the French and don't like them,is that criminal behaviour it's just a viewpoint but one the thought police would try to stop me from having. |
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sometimes i feel our friend feel the need to please everyone , its amazing if you analyze something like politics .....left wingers have a need to embrace everyone , welcoming all and sundry into their countries , right wingers , are people who have shall we say , the locals at heart ....yet every human being has the same emotions , some fear hate , others violence , human emotions ,how it can destroy lives , a left winger might hate a right winger , yet is unable to see his hatred , but he is able to see hatred in others ....there is racism in every nation under the sun , its not just a white thing ,have a little look at a certain dictator in africa ....yet none of our left wing friend ever mention mr magabe ....his hatred of the white race is legendary ..yet not a words of disapproval has been aired on here by our left wing friends....a man who has starved and killed many of his own people ...yet silence ...but wait a minute , ozy , the icch , etc find the use of a few ill chosen words by someone , and hey presto they become ,well , hurt is that only word that springs to mind ..they come on here all guns blazing to defend a black person who allegedly wornged by a few words...says it all really...forget about those been tormented by starvation by one of their own ...
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I am not defending anyone. Wildman has some clearly racist views, and the title of this thread is pretty disgusting to anyone with half a brain.
I did indeed brand Cork people that pa lapsy in a moment of levity, some years ago now. You clearly took it to heart as you felt the need to report me, for which I received my only ever betfair forum warning- a pig... and a grass!! |
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There was no levity whatsoever,and of course i did take it to heart,you weren,t reported by me however,the moderater probably deemed your comments rightly unacceptable.
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Well comsider us even then. I am hugely offended by your awful punctuation. I won't report you though.
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hello!so pp pa is the forum's snitch.......a bitter little man
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comsider?
Alanis Morrissette would have loved that one! |
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All the intolerance on this thread come from the liberals,the chief culprit being the Icchantika,they just can't stand differing opinions.
The Icchantika has the usual array of insults anyone that disagrees with him are morons or retards,he also managed to repeat a previous insult by calling the patently decent Pa Lapsy a pig and a grass and then followed it up in Thegalwayman like fashion by complaining in his superior way about punctuation. |
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Never called anyone a moron, and would certainly never all anyone a retard, but then again I am not the sort of man who regards a different race as a different species. You're a racist and spouting nonsense about liberal agendas does nothing to change that. I have no further comment to make on your prejudices.
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You certainly called me both a moron and a retard but I don't mind,anyone that disagrees with you has half a brain.
I didn't intend the opening post to be insulting and I was using the lingo of conservationists without meaning it in a bad way,I think you well understood what I meant but chose like all liberals to misinterpret to stifle opposition and this constant calling everyone racist if they dare question the modern day tyranny. Two polish young lads were murdered in a brutal fashion in Dublin a screwdriver was driven through their skulls,a member of a race industry quango stated he hoped it wasn't a race crime as if that would make it worse. |
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The icchantika,you,re unreal,you are still giving the holier than thou attitude.Woe betide anyone whose wording isn,t to your liking and you think its acceptable to call your own people from a different part of the country pigs.Quite sickening actually and the height of hypocrisy.
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The fall-out from the game reffed by Mark Clattenburg is going to be very interesting, with his linesmen supporting him to the hilt.I agree with wildman in that its all gone too far, not only in football, but in society in general.Mark Clattenburg is contemplating legal action, and and that would be a very interesting situation for Chelski FC.
Lapsy pa keep posting ignore the venom. Most on here know, and understand your a decent guy. |