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Vubiant
27 Oct 12 22:31
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I've always believed that 'champion jockey' is a meaningless term .
However the sport continues to make much of it every year and inevitably someone will end up having ridden more winners than everyone else over a specific period.
Jospeh O'Brien has performed most effectively from a tender age, withstood considerable pressure of expectation and probably endured an ascetic lifestyle as well to contain his weight.
Yes , he had an advantageous background but while that gave him the opportunity there was no guarantee that he would be able to exploit it unless he had the requisite talent , aptitude and application.
So to the industrious teenager  -I say 'well done lad'.
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Report workrider October 27, 2012 10:41 PM BST
i wonder is he the champion in the quickest time ever , from apprentice champion to senior champion that is...?
Report Anaglogs Daughter October 27, 2012 10:44 PM BST
To champion NH jockey next season?
Report BigRob1 October 27, 2012 10:54 PM BST
What price would anyone think is a fair price for him to ride a winner at cheltenham festival 2013?

l got a price off pp for it a while ago but did'nt think it was great.
Report workrider October 27, 2012 11:06 PM BST
can only see him riding in the bumper if anything ...so any price below 5/1 would be poor imo..cant see him been allowed go over the jumps tbh...
Report db1974 October 27, 2012 11:06 PM BST
10/1 - 12/1

If he wanted it he could probably get a fancied horse in the bumper
Report BigRob1 October 27, 2012 11:08 PM BST
10/1 was the price.


workrider what you mean cant see him being allowed go over the jumps?
Report db1974 October 27, 2012 11:11 PM BST
He has another 1-2 years on the Flat so he won't be allowed go NH while he can still have some semblance of a Flat career
Report wildmanfromborneo October 28, 2012 12:46 AM BST
Sullen had a treble today so not sure it's over.
Martin Quirke was champion jockey when he was an apprentice.
Report Vubiant October 28, 2012 1:14 AM BST
Both Smullen and O'Brien are on international duty next w/end and won't be riding at either of the 2 remaining flat meetings - so it's effectively ...over.......Fat Lady receiving standing ovation as we speak.
Report Arklearkle October 28, 2012 1:42 AM BST
Pity SYT is not qualified for the bumper. But to be fair he has done well and unless those concerned had confidence in him he would not have been put up on those animals.
Report silvergreaser October 28, 2012 8:33 AM GMT
Hate to be a killjoy guys but the sinister raising of the weights for maidens and conditions races just before the start of this years flat season, the type of races the majority of the Ballydoyle inmates contest was no coincidence, while it was not Josephs fault as darker forces were at work behind the scenes, but it does take the gloss off somewhat and questions once again the integrity of those who purport to regulate and run Irish racing.
Report Ozymandius October 28, 2012 9:31 AM GMT
Silvergreaser, DH Lawrence may have had you in mind when he said;

"But better die than live mechanically a life that is a repetition of repetitions"
Report silvergreaser October 28, 2012 9:39 AM GMT
Fair enough ozy you have a point, but somebody has to point out the truth, can't rely on the racing media to report on the truth, cue head in sand at the slightest hint of a controversial topic.
Report The Gotchee October 28, 2012 11:53 AM GMT
He is not a champion jockey. He is an average jockey who because of his privileged position managed to ride more winners than anyone else.  Champions are born not manufactured.
Report silvergreaser October 28, 2012 12:02 PM GMT
You're right gotchee there was a certain mechanical inevitability of how this seasons Irish flat season was going to pan out.
Report silvergreaser October 28, 2012 1:03 PM GMT
Of the eleven meetings scheduled in Ireland between now and the end of the flat season proper on Sun 4th, 9 are all jumps cards, talk about bringing the flat season to a close with barely a whimper?.

I'm sure if Aidan found out that Smullen was planning to fly home from the Breeders Cup to ride at Leopardstown on Sunday with a full book of rides, daddy would insure that Joseph would be accomodated with a good book of rides and flown home just as swiftly, even if its a pretty forlorn chance that Pat could wrestle the championship from under Josephs nose, there remains a possibility as long as there is enough races, but its probably not worth the effort as Joseph will probably end up with a better book of rides anyway.
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