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CheltenhamRoar
20 Sep 12 15:45
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There's no way Mars is their best juvenile,if he is,i fear the worst for them next season.
Surely they have one or two at ballydoyle waiting to be unleashed...
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Report richters September 20, 2012 4:07 PM BST
WHY????a mars a day helps you work rest and play imo.....
Report GANT007 September 20, 2012 4:08 PM BST
Rumour has it that a Coolmore representative has been to Richard Hannon's to throw his eye over a few 2 yo's.
Report Rocketfingers September 20, 2012 4:17 PM BST
I heard a few rumours myself in regards to the 2 year old at coolmore, i ain't saying after i giving a going report but if anybody wants the info PM me. It came from a good friend and a good source who's a permit holder.
Report CheltenhamRoar September 20, 2012 4:23 PM BST
We already know rocket,Their useless,Well useless might be a bit harsh,But Coolmore demand the best,i doubt they have anything out of the ordinary for next season.
Report wildmanfromborneo September 20, 2012 4:32 PM BST
Rocketfingers is a cross between Billy Liar and the Bird ODonnell and is not to be taken seriously.
They will be producing a load of two year olds for Dundalk probably not much use but their only function is to win Joseph the jockeys championship.
Report richters September 20, 2012 4:36 PM BST
rocket the horse racing messiah......
Report Rocketfingers September 20, 2012 4:50 PM BST
richters i'm not and i never want to be but i hear things from my source the permit holder and he's ITK
Report slickster September 20, 2012 4:53 PM BST
Grin
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 4:57 PM BST
Deep Throat, the permit holder Cool
Report CheltenhamRoar September 20, 2012 5:28 PM BST
i still think Cristoforo colombo will be very useful on decent ground,Will probably win the Dewhurst if the ground is in his favour,imo
Report workrider September 20, 2012 5:36 PM BST
ozymandius , are you set to rockets horus....just wondering ....?
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:00 PM BST
sorry, you will have to repeat that question in english, please workrider.
Report pa lapsy September 20, 2012 6:24 PM BST
Workrider you surprise meLaugh
Report workrider September 20, 2012 6:24 PM BST
its ok ozymandius , i just thought with your education , qualifications etc etc , you would have spotted the two egyptian gods... SET ...HORUS...my mistake...
Report workrider September 20, 2012 6:29 PM BST
HE'S GONE TO GOOGLE IT NOW PA....Laugh
Report pa lapsy September 20, 2012 6:32 PM BST
Laugh Of course, not much of an education around these days indeed.
Look up isiris as your at itSillyWink
Report workrider September 20, 2012 6:35 PM BST
you could't buy it eh pa lapsy....Laugh
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:36 PM BST
Quite brilliant, Baldrick.

I still don't understand the sentence even with 'Set' and 'Corus' written with capital letters, please elaborate!
Report pa lapsy September 20, 2012 6:39 PM BST
Disappointed there,elementary classics,you have either got it or you haven,t.Cool
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:41 PM BST
Since when were Classics offered at Hedge Schools?
Report pa lapsy September 20, 2012 6:43 PM BST
Now,Now, not that old. Miaaawwwwowwwwwww.
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:44 PM BST
Save your miaoowing for the FF Ard Fheis Pa!
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:44 PM BST
Save your miaoowing for the FF Ard Fheis Pa!
Report workrider September 20, 2012 6:45 PM BST
they were 2  eygptain gods who were constantly at war with one another ...i.e. you and rocket ...hence the question ...are you SET to rockets HORUS...
Report silvergreaser September 20, 2012 6:45 PM BST
Surprise surprise another thread has turned into a slagging match, it seems some posters are like a red rag to a bull?.
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:46 PM BST
Conqueror of Set

Horus was told by his mother, Isis, to protect the people of Egypt from Set, the god of the desert, who had killed his father Osiris.[

Horus had many battles with Set, not only to avenge his father, but to choose the rightful ruler of Egypt. In these battles, Horus came to be associated with Lower Egypt (where Horus was worshipped), and became its patron.

One scene stated how Horus was on the verge of killing Set; but his mother (and Set's sister), Isis, stopped him. Isis injured Horus, but eventually healed him.

According to Papyrus Chester-Beatty I, Set is depicted as trying to prove his dominance by seducing Horus and then having intercourse with him. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently throws it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set. Horus then deliberately spreads his own semen on some lettuce, which was Set's favorite food. After Set had eaten the lettuce, they went to the gods to try to settle the argument over the rule of Egypt. The gods first listened to Set's claim of dominance over Horus, and call his semen forth, but it answered from the river, invalidating his claim. Then, the gods listened to Horus' claim of having dominated Set, and call his semen forth, and it answered from inside Set.[19][20]

However, Set still refused to relent, and the other gods were getting tired from over eighty years of fighting and challenges. Horus and Set challenged each other to a boat race, where they each raced in a boat made of stone. Horus and Set agreed, and the race started. But Horus had an edge: his boat was made of wood painted to resemble stone, rather than true stone. Set's boat, being made of heavy stone, sank, but Horus's did not. Horus then won the race, and Set stepped down and officially gave Horus the throne of Egypt.[18] But after the New Kingdom, Set still was considered Lord of the desert and its oases.[21]

This myth, along with others, could be seen as an explanation of how the two kingdoms of Egypt (Upper and Lower) came to be united. Horus was seen as the God of Lower Egypt, and Set as the God of Upper Egypt. In this myth, the respective Upper and Lower deities have a fight, through which Horus is the victor. However, some of Horus (representing Lower Egypt) enters into Set (Upper Egypt) thus explaining why Lower Egypt is dominant over Upper Egypt. Set's regions were then considered to be of the desert.
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:46 PM BST
Conqueror of Set

Horus was told by his mother, Isis, to protect the people of Egypt from Set, the god of the desert, who had killed his father Osiris.[

Horus had many battles with Set, not only to avenge his father, but to choose the rightful ruler of Egypt. In these battles, Horus came to be associated with Lower Egypt (where Horus was worshipped), and became its patron.

One scene stated how Horus was on the verge of killing Set; but his mother (and Set's sister), Isis, stopped him. Isis injured Horus, but eventually healed him.

According to Papyrus Chester-Beatty I, Set is depicted as trying to prove his dominance by seducing Horus and then having intercourse with him. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently throws it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set. Horus then deliberately spreads his own semen on some lettuce, which was Set's favorite food. After Set had eaten the lettuce, they went to the gods to try to settle the argument over the rule of Egypt. The gods first listened to Set's claim of dominance over Horus, and call his semen forth, but it answered from the river, invalidating his claim. Then, the gods listened to Horus' claim of having dominated Set, and call his semen forth, and it answered from inside Set.[19][20]

However, Set still refused to relent, and the other gods were getting tired from over eighty years of fighting and challenges. Horus and Set challenged each other to a boat race, where they each raced in a boat made of stone. Horus and Set agreed, and the race started. But Horus had an edge: his boat was made of wood painted to resemble stone, rather than true stone. Set's boat, being made of heavy stone, sank, but Horus's did not. Horus then won the race, and Set stepped down and officially gave Horus the throne of Egypt.[18] But after the New Kingdom, Set still was considered Lord of the desert and its oases.[21]

This myth, along with others, could be seen as an explanation of how the two kingdoms of Egypt (Upper and Lower) came to be united. Horus was seen as the God of Lower Egypt, and Set as the God of Upper Egypt. In this myth, the respective Upper and Lower deities have a fight, through which Horus is the victor. However, some of Horus (representing Lower Egypt) enters into Set (Upper Egypt) thus explaining why Lower Egypt is dominant over Upper Egypt. Set's regions were then considered to be of the desert.
Report pa lapsy September 20, 2012 6:47 PM BST
Apologies Cheltenhamroar.
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:48 PM BST
Pure filth, workrider!

I am certainly not at war with Rocket?  Have you me confused with someone else?
Report workrider September 20, 2012 6:48 PM BST
were ,were you today silvergreaser , when i needed you ...over on the listowel thread....re willies mullins and the running of his horses ..heading out soon so wont be here long ..i was compering willies stable to your beloved coolmore...
Report Ozymandius September 20, 2012 6:51 PM BST
Anyway, chapeau workrider.   A most learned reference, even if not quite relevant.  I am suitably humbled by your superior knowledge of the Classics.  Borneo will get great mileage out of this.
Report workrider September 20, 2012 6:54 PM BST
its only a myth after all ozymandius , dont take it to heart , it gets worse if you've ever read it ..what about the poor wife going all over eygpt collecting bits and pieces of her beloved husbands ..guess what piece she finds first ..and brings it back to life....Laugh
Report CheltenhamRoar October 9, 2012 6:26 PM BST
Haven't seen a 2 yo of there's as yet this season that screamed classic winner,Anyone else?
Report lapsy pa October 9, 2012 8:58 PM BST
No cheltenham,at 5 day he has over 1/2 the enteries for the Dewhurst and a 1/3 for the Middleham and more than likely is going to go winnerless,winds of change like a few are alluding to on here seems to be blowing over Ballydoyle.
Report kingrat October 10, 2012 1:05 AM BST
pa likes it up the bum
Report lapsy pa October 10, 2012 11:48 AM BST
Thought they would rear you better than that in Clonakilty,Shane.
Report CheltenhamRoar October 10, 2012 2:59 PM BST
Maybe one of his exposed ones will win the Dewhurst,Wouldn't be the first time an exposed horse has won said race.
Report olddesperado October 10, 2012 4:13 PM BST
That thing there very impressive, Derby possible surley
Report rubyisgodinthesaddle October 10, 2012 8:11 PM BST
While not the same obvious classic contenders there is serious depth in quality in the colt division, The fillys are terrible bunch.

The Ferryman
Battle of Merengo
Mars
Kingsbarns
Eye of the Storm
Finn McCool
Dei
Sir Walter Scott
The United States
Theatre

There is a serious bunch of unexposed potential classic winners, I would not fret if I was Coolmore, the breeding of the above are top notch, they are being handled very tamely, they know what they have got!!!. Forgive me but I will make a bold prediction that there is 3 Group 1 winners in there.
Report rubyisgodinthesaddle October 10, 2012 8:29 PM BST
I have another 5 on my list that are unraced and by the law of averages one is going to be top notch, all impeccably bred. They are being minded!!!!! not risked on paddy field ground
Report kingrat October 10, 2012 8:40 PM BST
great stuff,i'll put them in my note bookWink
Report CheltenhamRoar October 10, 2012 8:58 PM BST
Whatever happened "The United States"
Won nicely on debut in july,Form hasnt worked out too bad,
perhaps been kept for the breeders cup with a name like that?
Report rubyisgodinthesaddle October 12, 2012 12:26 PM BST
No surprise to be if the Galileo out of a danehill mare A league of nations hack up at the Curragh on SundayCool
Report steeringjobnap October 12, 2012 12:27 PM BST
As an aside - Camelot recovering successfully from colic treatment in Fethard last night.

They need a new hero badly.
Report CheltenhamRoar October 14, 2012 2:00 PM BST
Maybe next time for league of nations
Report rubyisgodinthesaddle October 14, 2012 2:09 PM BST
Yeah market said all.

He will win next time
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