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By:
BJG
When: 10 Sep 12 11:58
Rory McIlroy has given the clearest indication yet that he will opt to represent Great Britain at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games.
Golf will make it's first appearance as an Olympic sport since 1904 in Rio and there has been much speculation on which team the current world number one will play - should he qualify.
McIlroy is eligible to represent both Ireland and Great Britain at the Olympics and while he has played for Ireland in World Cups, under the auspices of the 32-county Golf Union of Ireland, it appears he will opt for Great Britain in Rio.
"What makes it such an awful position to be in is I have grown up my whole life playing for Ireland under the Golfing Union of Ireland umbrella," McIlroy told the Daily Mail.
"But the fact is, I’ve always felt more British than Irish. Maybe it was the way I was brought up, I don’t know, but I have always felt more of a connection with the UK than with Ireland.
"And so I have to weigh that up against the fact that I’ve always played for Ireland and so it is tough.
"Whatever I do, I know my decision is going to upset some people but I just hope the vast majority will understand," he added.
The top 15 golfers in the Official World Golf Ranking will qualify automatically for the Rio Olympics, regardless of which country they come from.
Then, 45 more players will be selected based on their world ranking, but only if their country does not already have two players competing in the tournament.
By:
db1974
When: 10 Sep 12 12:55
Good luck to him

Funny, I don't remember the same furore when Sonia decided to become an Australian citizen so she could run in the Commonwealth Games
By:
reb
When: 10 Sep 12 13:40
Despite the best efforts of the marketeers of the over-hyped modern Ryder Cup competition, Golf is not a team sport.  Rory McIlroy, like most professionals, plays for himself.
By:
richters
When: 10 Sep 12 13:48
bjg were have you quoted this piece i have never heard mcilroy make such comments?
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 10 Sep 12 13:48
IMHO its a bit two-faced, by this guy, to even consider playing for any other country other than his country of birth  beggars belief..........nasty bit of stuff.........holly you were lucky .........
By:
never give up
When: 10 Sep 12 13:56

Sep 10, 2012 -- 1:48PM, richters wrote:


bjg were have you quoted this piece i have never heard mcilroy make such comments?


sporting life.com

By:
RodneyHutchingsJNR
When: 10 Sep 12 14:05
Sonia was only following the foundation that was laid in 1978 by Co. Monaghan`s Finbar McGuigan
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 10 Sep 12 14:14
McIlroy feels more British than Irish

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/golf/2012/0910/1224323820435.html


Rory McIlroy of Northern Ireland walks across the practice green during the third round of the BMW Championship at Crooked Stick Golf Club on September 8th, 2012 in Carmel, Indiana. Photograph: Scott Halleran/Getty Images

Golf: Rory McIlroy has ended any debate about his national allegiance by declaring that: “I’ve always felt more British than Irish.” The 23 year old from Northern Ireland, who claimed a second successive FedEx title by winning the BMW International Championship at Crooked Stick golf course yesterday, made his comments in an exclusive interview in the Daily Mail.

The issue about who McIlroy would play for in the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro – golf will be admitted to the Games for the first time – appears to have been resolved unequivocally with the world number one opting for Britain.

He continued: “What makes it such an awful position to be in is I have grown up my whole life playing for Ireland under the Golfing Union of Ireland umbrella. But the fact is I have always felt more British than Irish. Maybe it is the way I was brought up, I don’t know, but I have always felt more of a connection with the UK than with Ireland.

“And so I have to weigh that up against the fact that I have always played for Ireland and so it is tough. Whatever I do, I know my decision is going to upset some people but I hope the vast majority will understand.”

McIlroy had previously been circumspect when questioned about which country he would play for in the Olympics and had stated on a number of occasions that he considered himself to be Northern Irish. His comments are likely to provoke a strong reaction and at face value appear curiously timed.

The Rio Games are not for another four years and he was under no pressure to declare any allegiance one way or another. His decision to categorically state a preference at this point is likely to disappoint many of his supporters in Ireland.
By:
RodneyHutchingsJNR
When: 10 Sep 12 14:23
Finbar also insisted that all his children were born north of the border,as well,in St John of God`s Hospital,Newry
By:
richters
When: 10 Sep 12 14:27
i must say i am quite surprised by this statement from mcilroy.....ozy will be creaming his pants at this....
By:
GANT007
When: 10 Sep 12 14:29
Good luck to the lad whatever he decides.
By:
vinnie_roe
When: 10 Sep 12 14:44
If that is how he feels, he should not be playing for Ireland in the world cup. Pod is far more popular in this country.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 10 Sep 12 14:45
I always thought he was more British than Irish, so i think he's right Wink
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 10 Sep 12 14:45
I always thought he was more British than Irish, so i think he's right Wink
By:
richters
When: 10 Sep 12 14:50
and how did you think that rocket if you dont mind me asking?
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 15:04
He is just like you Richters; more British that Irish Love
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 10 Sep 12 15:09
Just don't like his attitude richters !
By:
mrtopnotch
When: 10 Sep 12 15:11
He has played all his amateur career for Ireland (its all one like the rugby)
even his professional career "i have grown up my whole life playing for Ireland under the Golfing Union of Ireland"

Ireland really need him because we don't win many medals at the Olympics, I am personnally gutted.

I will never support him again and will never support a team with him playing i.e. Ryder Cup Europe!
Sad
By:
GANT007
When: 10 Sep 12 15:18
It's a funny one when you look at it.........Golf, GAA, Cricket and Rugby are all 32 county sports.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 15:20
Surprised at the surprise on here; he has made this obvious for years.

Did he have any choice growing up and playing under the GUI?  I assume it was the only practical way for him to compete.

Now that he has a choice to make, he has made it.  Lets take it on the chin like a grown up mature Nation rather than resort to pathetic hatrid of the individual.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 15:22
Some of our NI rugby players might face a similar quandry if asked to play for Team GB in the Rugby Sevens in the next Olympics.
By:
mrtopnotch
When: 10 Sep 12 15:25
I wont post any hatred, as I dont like that stuff, but I will never support him again  Cry
We are a small Island and need all our sporting heros , especially in the Olympics where we don't win too many medals

Naive I am ! I thought he might go for Ireland as we could do with him!
By:
db1974
When: 10 Sep 12 15:25
It would be arguably a lot more difficult for the rugby boys to opt for GB and then come back to play for Ireland a couple of months later
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 15:26
So you only supported him because you thought he was Irish?  What about his ability, his talent, his approach to the game, his personality etc?
By:
moneypenny
When: 10 Sep 12 15:32
He is irish as andy murray is scottish and ryan giggs is welsh.
Who he plays for in olympics is his own business.
Personally i couldnt give a fc *u* ck as any of the highly paid guys listed above being eligible to win olympic medals is a nonsense anyway
By:
Kelly
When: 10 Sep 12 16:05
Nearly everybody in the world regards Rory as Irish . Commentators are in the van in that regard .

Rory comes from a mixed marriage , went to school in an RC primary school ( I think ) , and then Sullivan Upper in Holywood ( logical  , few options in that regard without travel ) . His schooling /education was never I suspect top priority  regarding academic achievement, given that his passport said "golfer" from an early age  , and his career from about age 10 was about golf , including large support from a well known golf manufacturer / supplier to the golf trade . Plus friendship with DC and ultimate signing up with Chubby and co ( for a nice package ) .

That his uncle ( mothers brother) played gaelic for Armagh was probably not a high priority for anyone with a golf career in mind , physical sports like that and rugby would do nothing for your swing .

His dad more or less travels nowadays as part of the caravan as far as I see , dont think Rory's mother spends much time around the golf circuit . The curious aspect of this news is the timing , coming in the middle of a big tournament  , but cant say it surprises me , the younger people these days express opinions willy nilly as they are used to instant press , often at first hand  , and some of the athletes / golfers / twitter merchants have had cause to regret auto response which the internet has enabled . Few nowadays consult elders etc before committing to copy  , its part of the way the younger generation have grown up .

The real anomaly is the dilemma posed by conflicting jurisdictions straddling one small island .  As Rory points out , golf  in Ireland is organised on an island basis , and unlike sports such as soccer and athletics there is no "border"  . Likewise  rugby is Ireland based , although most of my northern rugby friends support Ulster as their "national team " . Might have had some validity years ago when nobody from Donegal , Cavan , or Monaghan played for Ulster ( no rugby there essentially) and all players were homegrown from the other 6 counties in Ulster . But nowadays when half the thrust in your team comes from the southern hemisphere and your best back is from Monaghan that loyalty tag has become increasingly spurious . They do enjoy supporting the boys in green also in huge fashion .

However golf in Ireland has always been conducted in an exemplary fashion regarding relationships between different traditions ( although clubs internally were not always even handed in regard to membership and respect for the "other guys" traditions  , but at macro level it was always for the greater good , and bite your tongue occasionally ). Rory is too young though to have experienced the path a lot of us have tread over the years , lucky for him in that regard , but exposure like that brings experience to those that have a mind to heed it , and it makes them more circumspect .

Holywood is not exactly a typical Northern Ireland outpost . Nor is Carryduff / Moneyreagh  where Rory lives now , the political and lifestyle forces in both those places do not represent "typical " Northern Ireland  scenarios ( lots will say thank goodness for that ). Rory is therefore the product of a polyglot society and will probably never assimilate the tribal distractions most of the rest of us residents grew up with , and through . Lucky in that regard .

Most of us true Irish golfers feel equally at home in Waterville , Killarney , Ballybunion , Muskerry , Rosses Point , Royal Dublin , Portmarnock , Royal Co Down , Belvoir , Malone , Portrush , Castlerock , Murvagh , etc , and cheered as hard for James and  Harry and  Christy and Padraig as we did for Fred and Darren and Graeme and Rory . Any subsidiary flag or emblem is of little interest to most of us , they are all "our own " and owe a lot of their success to the Golfing Union of Ireland ( the oldest golfing union in the world ) .

Anyway the Olympics has become a lobsided setup , the ideals of Baron Du Coubertin have become slightly clouded with the passage of time and the commercialism that now comes with high profile competitors .

The flag flingers in our midst have become an annoyance to me , flinging tricolours or Ulster or union flags at successful winners leaves me cold , but governments are at it too , todays stuff emphasises that , and some have dialled into sporting success as a means of distraction from the real problems that confront us as a society and from the daily conduct of affairs associated with our positions as educated and relatively wealthy / organised societies in world terms . David C high tailed it quickly here when early in the Olympics the realisation that promoting "Team GB " was disenfranchising a small but worthy element of the UK , unfortunately for him our first and second were both on holidays and the game was apparent by default . Civil servant black mark ?

Congratulations Rory , coming of age , sometimes news is better dispensed when you want to air it , rather than in answering directly the media , who always have an agenda for self generation .  Mid tournament is for concentrating on golf ( ref Tiger ) , 100% of the effort has to be on course , anything else is a distraction to be dealt with at your pleasure . The media are largely dependent on people like you , but it cuts both ways .
By:
kingrat
When: 10 Sep 12 16:56
its mcilroy's right if he wants to declare for the brits.soccer players from the 6 counties with an nationlist tradition can declare for the ROI if thats the way they feel.personally i dont give a rat's arse .ffs whats the problem?
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 10 Sep 12 17:04
It is his choice. It would be tortuous later on if he was playing for Ireland but wanted to play for England or GB it's like a woman in a mans body...No point denying it any moreHappy
By:
erris1
When: 10 Sep 12 17:15
in my opinion it doesnt really matter..golf should not be classed as an Olympic sport..think its a disgrace that it and rugby sevens are being brought in..just making a mockery of the whole movement along with tennis and soccer
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 10 Sep 12 17:23
Soccer has a long stading tradition as an olympic sport.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 17:33
Nearly everybody in the world regards Rory as Irish

Everyone except himself it would appear.
By:
richters
When: 10 Sep 12 17:37
as kelly states this is only small talk at this stage,i will await until he finally declares until i vent my anger upon him.....
By:
moneypenny
When: 10 Sep 12 17:47
If they want to bring golf into the olympics why not keep it for the amateurs.
By:
moneypenny
When: 10 Sep 12 17:51
When the time comes it wouldnt surprise me if a lot of the top professionals give it a swerve anyway, given the date will be just before the USPGA and the cash cow that is the Fedex Cup playoffs
By:
Kelly
When: 10 Sep 12 18:05
Ozy , think Rory is reported as regarding himself as Northern Irish . With the unfortunate history of the poxy arrangement involved in dividing a natural land mass into 2 seperate entities with divided loyalties and jurisdiction  , nobody is going to win long term . Thats the reality .

That embedded within the northern part of the "arrangement" there is a substantial body of opinion favouring a view south ( once upon a time certainly ) and no one can truly win , most just have to get on with it the best they can .

Rory has a British passport I think , probably entitled also to an Irish passport subject to whatever rules exist ( not familiar with them ) , both subject to the greater "good" of being European and seamless movement available .

Rory has I suspect little in common with anyone English , Welsh , or Scottish , compared with most of those he has grown up with . Some of them Northern Irish , and ( golfers mainly ) fully paid up members with Irish credentials ( and passports ) . The affiliation with the GB and I thing is just one of the products of our divided loyalty society .
By:
workrider
When: 10 Sep 12 18:12
just as a aside , i have a cousin who played for ireland at rugby from the north , he never sang the national anthem , dont think he ever really felt he was irish either , ....but when the whistle went , he fought for every ball as if his life depended on it...
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 18:49
Common enough workrider.  Big Davy Tweed of Garvaghy Rod infamy was rumoured to wear the Red Hand of Ulster jersey under his Irish jersey so that the Green jersey wouldn't touch his skin Shocked

If I recall correctly they played the Rose of Tralee at the Rugby World Cup instead of our anthem just to placate him!  'Ireland's Call' was born from the debacle.
By:
richters
When: 10 Sep 12 18:56
ozy the individual you refer to was never on the garvaghy road in his life sir........
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Sep 12 19:00
was he not famously pictured to the fore in some fracas or other, richters?
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