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This could be a good game , Donegal have upped their all round game since last year ( thank goodness ) and there could be lots of good tussles throughout the field .
Cant find any betting on the match on here , am I missing something ( or are Betfair asleep ) ?
Cant find any betting on the match on here , am I missing something ( or are Betfair asleep ) ?
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Market is up, no money up yet tho
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I think Cork -1 are a great bet, they have the ability to more then match Donegal in the Physicality stakes and their running game from deep is not reliant on finding space behind the full back.
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Cork -1 in what will surely be a dour, tight, tuff,low scoring game ? remember this is Cork footballers
enjoy the ride, but hold onto something tight.......... |
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Kerry's best chance of beating them went when the weather was poor the day of the match.
With the 'Summer' we've had to date, I wouldn't be falling over myself to back Cork -1 on a wet, inclement afternoon at HQ. Karl Lacey shipping a heavy blow to the knee was arguably the turning point in last year's AL SF with the Dubs. They weren't that far away last year & have added the firepower up front [as Down supporters can atest to]. |
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Down have franked no ones form. They were unfit. Cork are the best team in the country.
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Unfit??
I find that a remarkable statement to make about a modern, IC SFC side. |
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cork -1 does seem like an unbelievably good bet..think it should be -3 or -4...the deciding factor should be corks ability to score from play around the 45..as a bet id put up cork to score from play first..donegal give up very few frees and cork should win the hop ball..usually be priced up around the 2-1 mark
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Unfit by championship standards, I thought a few of the backs didn't look physically up to it particularly how they finished the game, and yes they were absolutely awful against Mayo so I'm not sure I would want to use them as a marker for this Donegal side.
Donegal are a top 3 side with Dublin and Cork, I think Donegal and Dublin are tough to split but I think Cork are a good bit ahead. |
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my fear for cork would be that they have yet to be tested....they will never have met a team with the tenacity of donegal.....it will be a bitter battle to the end which i expect donegal to come thru by a point or 2.....they are technically better prepared than they were last year and this should stand to them in the last 10mins were they failed to capitalise last year....as a down man i can say we were fit enough but just havent got the players to defend at the top level....simple as that....
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I'd agree that the Down backs are light vs. a physically strong side such as Donegal/Cork/Dublin.
I don't believe they are "match" unfit though. Admittedly, the Mayo performance was absolutely scandalous for a beaten finalist from 2010 [even if Marty Clarke was particularly outstanding that year]. |
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As a Down man , I have to admit that the Down backs in particular cough up space to opposing forwards so easily it is embarrassing . All our good teams marked tight and knew how to defend . Current team needs someone on board who knows how to defend , and some better players . Not all down to the management , you cant get blood from a stone .
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I put up a few doubts I had about the Donegal win against Kerry on the other thread, but have been looking for reasons not to back Cork as well.
I know people are saying that Cork can score from distance which will be important against this Donegal defence. But it is one thing to score when under little or no pressure - another to do it in a very tight, AI semi-final when gettting hunted down by 2-3 Donegal men. Also, have Cork really been in a dogfight of late - Donegal have that's for sure. Donegal won't be as open at the back as Kildare were - and the goals that Cork got against Kildare will be unlikely to be had on Sunday. Also people say that if Donegal go down by 4-5 points early on, they will have to open up. But given their style, is it really likely that they will go behind by that early? I think the game will be won in the 2nd half. I see the draw HT/Cork FT double result is 14/1. I will definitely be having a nibble at that as I see there being very little in it in the first half. Also, the under 28.5pts could be a good starting point, with a view to getting on the overs if it falls to 22.5 or 23.5 after a very tight opening 20 minutes - will wait for the weather forecast for that. |
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Cork are in a dogfight every second day with Frank, so well used to that
 agree it should be low scoring, a few of Donegals games could have ended level so the draw is a big player, once Cork dont bolt......... |
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PODCAST of one hour "SQUARE BALL" GAA Show on 93.1 FM CORK from Tuesday with a preview Of Cork v Donegal
Exclusive interviews with Conor Counihan and Graham Canty and also 1992 All Ireland Man of the Match Manus Boyle of donegal scored 9 points when they beat the Dubs in an epic 1992 Final ! Also Cork hurling Club Blackrock stave off relegation,their Manager is Ray deleany,he talks live. Plus Brian Cody+_Declan ryan Link is below http://www.lifefm.ie/life/Content/On-Air/Tue%201800-1900.html |
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Dublin should be lively this weekend so lock up your daughters and some your wifes
as the North west are in town :) |
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It will be an intriguing tactical battle from the word go. I can see Cork putting either Murphy or even Aidan Walsh at the edge of the square and pump the ball high inside. Counihan will have to change his sides style of play if they are to beat this Donegal machine. McGuinness the master mind will have something new up his sleeve!
As richters says; 'it will be a bitter battle to the end' but I expect Cork to come out on top by a couple of points. At the end of the day scores win matches and I just think Cork have more firepower than the Ulster champions, Walsh, Goold, Sheehan, Kerrigan, O'Neill, O'Connor, Kelly, Goulding whereas Donegal rely heavily on one or two eg. Murphy and McFadden. They cant afford their duo to have an off day. Should be a cracker. |
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Cork will destroy Donegal. Cork -1 is the bet of the year. Not only will the beat Donegal they will win the all Ireland. Donegal enjoy your day out in Dublin
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see it as a trading match, cork will have purple patches and sleepy time
draw is a player, particularly as Donegal lost the plot against Kerry when they went 5 points up |
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Counihan saying all the right things:-
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2012/0823/334661-counihan-mistake-may-decide-semi-final/ Weather pivotal this Sunday. |
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so counihan is opting for paddy kelly!at centre half foward?that to me is a message to mcguinness.this kid is top class,left or right and very quick,hello mr lacy
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I think at 12.5 or 13 on here the draw is grey value, should be able to green up late on
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Great value
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I'm with you willy
have punted Donegal & the draw with a view to trading not ideal that I'll be in croker with the poor phone coverage Cork have been heavily backed in the last few days and struggling to see why |
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I fancied Donegal strongly at the odds to beat Kerry. I thought that game was a very good match up for Donegal against a Kerry side with a lot of miles in their legs and without players to score from distance. Donegals improvement is based on a superb fitness abd physicality. However, they lack real pace and struggled a lot in ulster when a very poor Down and Tyrone teams exploited this weakness early in their games with them while they were fresh.
If conditions are good i will be backing Cork in todays game. If its a bad day i see that playing to Donegals advantage and wont be having a bet. |
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looking back over the last 4 years form...2009 cork beat in all ireland final by kerry after beating donegal rather easily in the quarter finals.....2010....cork win all ireland narrowly beating an average down team a game which down should have won....down had previously beat donegal aet in the prelims.donegal go out tamely to armagh in qualifiers....2011.....donegal are ulster champions under new management and run all ireland champions dublin close in semi final......cork beaten in all ireland qf by an average mayo team who later capitulated against kerry.......2012...donegal and cork both win provincial championships rather easily......to me donegal have played in tougher games and against better opposition..derry,tyrone,down,kerry......corks win agains kildare was impressive but we have to remember kildare were previously beaten by a poor meath team.....donegal were unlucky last year against dublin and are a far superior side to that this year where as i feel that the cork team which defeated down in 2010 is relatively the same......donegal have beaten cork in the league also in ballybofey this year 1-7 - 0-10.....to summarise i think donegal should have the mental and physical edge over cork and expect them topull away by 2 points in the last 10minutes......
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Best bet here is under 29.5 pts in my opinion.Can't see more than one goal with the game getting more bogged down as the winning line is in sight.
Donegal 1-10 Cork 0-12. |
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Ref in that minor match was a disgrace.
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The ref was awful but at least the better team won.........That Meath minor team was not fancied to do anything at the start of the year.....There u go.
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Mayo played beautiful football in first half , looked home and hosed . Disappeared in the second half , did not score for 26 minute spell ( most of half ) . Draw would have been a fairer result as several Mayo players required attention off the field and I suspect it upset their rhythm .
Agree the ref was over officious , hardly a bad tackle and he was handing out yellows like confetti . Plus he missed a couple of calls favouring Meath . |
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I don't agree that the better team won..... I think thats stretching it a fair bit. Meath won with huge assistance from the Referee, and from a linesman who should never again be allowed run a line. The most blatant of pushes, I've ever seen right beside the linesman, and he saw nothing.
The hurling ref last sunday in the KilkennyvTipp game forget the rule book,the referee in the u21 game last night failed to give a free,probably a penalty to Galway early in the game when Galway were ahead, and this failure helped KK to stay in close touch and imho had a huge bearing on the result. I am fearful for this Cork v Donegal game as this ref has been poor too often in the past. Time the GAA got their act together and got a few decent referee's properly trained, as there is too much at stake now. |
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Pen decision was crucial to the outcome and quite frankly suspicious. A truly awful call from the ref. I'm glad the Sunday Game crew went to town on him, hope his family are rightfully ashamed of him.
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Ah,maybe thats a bit strong pre-fat, its just the GAA Hierarchy that need to wake up. They just need to train up a few refs to a proper standard, even if they are professional full-time at the reffing for the summer,so be it..........
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Who is this ref a lot of easy frees to Donegal.
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Yeah Arkle,i don,t trust him an inch,Cork having the play and not a lot to show for it.
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Cork are gone
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Donegal just different class here. Fitness coming to the fore in the 2nd half.
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I am from Cork but will not go to a football game for the very reason you are looking at live on TV. Infuriating watching them and Counihan getting exposed for the moderate tactician he is.
Not to take from Donegal however who are playing superbly and deserving winners |
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Lust I agree Donegal are deserving winners but Cork are playing absolute Sh...
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 not over yet |