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Rocketfingers
19 Aug 12 20:40
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I hope we get this but can't see it being done, GAA would need to improve their grounds to fit international sports criteria that is laid down by the various govt bodies including the IOC, IRB, FIFA, UEFA etc etc. The GAA need to do them up first, They'll be the landlords, you don't rent some place without making sure it's safe and fit for the purpose it is required for. Will Croker ever be finished? Will their stadia have proper sightlines for the spectators? Will the bumpkin towns where their stadia are be modernised with proper rail links and road infrastructure.  The GAA blew our hopes of hosting the Euro's before let hope we all work together to make sure they get this right and hopefully FG leans on them hard too to stop putting off the vote.

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By:
KIMBLE
When: 20 Aug 12 16:17
why no ravenhill, seems strange
By:
squigs
When: 21 Aug 12 11:30
Why don't Rugby rely on their own stadia then?

Personally I couldn't see Tallaght stadium been fit for All Blacks v Australia.
By:
Kelly
When: 21 Aug 12 12:14
Ravenhill too small , Casement the only ground with decent capacity in the north , and its not in rugby heartland exactly .

Most of the GAA grounds would meet standards , certainly for matches up to quarters/ semis which presumably would be in Aviva / Croker .

Hopefully some progress will be made , rugby the only game we would be capable of staging on a world front ( outside of golf where our pitches are world class ) .
By:
Ozymandius
When: 21 Aug 12 12:56
Would be fantastic if we could get this.  It would be by far the largest sporting event we have hosted and could probably ever hope to host as a sole host.

What a buzz it would be.  International teams based all over the country, integrating with the community and the local rugby clubs.  Big economic boost, big boost for rugby.

RWC will be based in Japan in 2019, with some matches being played in Hong Kong and some in Singpore.  USA and Russia thought to be considering bidding in 2023. Tough competition to say the least.
By:
richters
When: 21 Aug 12 13:04
another moronic post by the rocket.....only for the gaa grounds mentioned this bid would be a non jigger....agree with ozy(for once) this would be a great boost for the country....
By:
GANT007
When: 21 Aug 12 14:27
This news must have made the bigoted Rocketfingers blood boil.........no shame in giving the professional boys a dig out with a few world class stadiums.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 21 Aug 12 14:37
High time the world tuned in to watch a game in these world class stadia Wink
By:
squigs
When: 21 Aug 12 16:57
It would be a great, I think all our sporting codes can come together and support what would be a brilliant tournament for Ireland.
By:
kavvie
When: 21 Aug 12 17:14
it would be great for a game of rugby to be played at the iconic fitzgerald stadium in killarney.im sure the rugby lads will be bowled over with the great gaa stadiums of ireland..croker the jewel in the crown(83000 capacity))fitzgerld(45000)limerick(45000)thurles the hallowed turf(50000)cork(40000)then the smaller ones...galway and mayo(both 30000)tullamore(25000)mullingar(20000).add in the aviva(45000) and (25000) and you have a fine range of stadia for any bid.added to a fine network of roads the irfu must have an outstanding chance of winning the bid.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 21 Aug 12 17:46
Great news, i never thought the GAA had it in them, i believe the vote just got through and that a number of the no votes went ballistic saying rugby was a foreign game. I heard this info from a high ranking GAA official i know but i will refuse to name. Well done the IRFU.
By:
jumper
When: 21 Aug 12 18:00
Would be great news if this could get off the ground. See the last one was held in NZ but they spread it around the country and had about 12 venues. That's not surprising as rugby is a religion for them. The tournament before that was a joint effort between France, Wales and Scotland and even before that the last one in this part of the world was shared between England, Scotland and Wales.

In the context of everything, is a more likely scenario to share a bid with say Scotland for example. Also, as it's rugby, it's all Ireland. Apart from Ravenhill, does the north have any other rugby grounds?

I thought Croke Park was finished. Excuse my ignorance, I've only been there twice. Or are we referring to the existing standing areas?

At least this feasibility study can assess if we are serious contenders.

Rocketfingers - is that true or just your exaggeration? Some of the GAA crowd are not still carping on about foreign games? All the media reported was that the GAA at the weekend game its blessing as it's in 'the national interest', which sounds very sensible.

Whatever, fingers crossed. I suspect though that the Rugby world cup people may expect a joint bid looking at past scenarios.
By:
GANT007
When: 21 Aug 12 19:35
Jumper.........Rocketfingers is anti GAA and still bears the scars of the famous ban in his youth........Croke Park is finished.
Rocketfingers and a minority of diehards wil only pick the bad points out in this. Australia did it with a similar profile of stadiums.............I think we have a great chance of landing it.
The IRFU and GAA will do well financially out of this and work well together.
The stadiums will be fine as the crowds attending the Rugby will not need to be segregated.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 22 Aug 12 09:53
An idiotic poster,Rocketfingers berates the GAA and demands they improve their facilities so another competing organisation can use them,bad manners for a start.When you are asking a favour of someone it's a good idea to be polite,which is why the FAI failed in their bogus bid to host a football championship ,they went around with some FIFA delegates pretending Croke Park and Lansdowne Road were their own.
I will go along with Rocketfingers pretence about being from Sligo and put an example to him,if you were to be holding a party for Never Give Up,Tobywong ,Irish Guy and Sligored would it be alright to descend on Lisadell House and demand the use of it for your degenerate party,of course not,you could ask.
I have nothing against Rugby but it is a competing sport and the GAA should only accede to their request on the basis that it would be good for the country and it was a request not a demand.
By:
GANT007
When: 22 Aug 12 10:19
I think Rocketfingers use of the term bumpkin towns has let him down again........It appeared on a LOI discussion forum who were running down the Rugby world cup bid..........for someone like rocketfingers who lives 10 miles outside Sligo town it's a strange one........the usual diehards are terrified some stadiums will get a lick of paint and their stadiums get the usual couple of litres of roundup.
By:
jumper
When: 22 Aug 12 13:30

Aug 21, 2012 -- 7:35PM, GANT007 wrote:


Jumper.........Rocketfingers is anti GAA and still bears the scars of the famous ban in his youth........Croke Park is finished.Rocketfingers and a minority of diehards wil only pick the bad points out in this. Australia did it with a similar profile of stadiums.............I think we have a great chance of landing it.The IRFU and GAA will do well financially out of this and work well together.The stadiums will be fine as the crowds attending the Rugby will not need to be segregated.


Thanks for the explanation. I only pop in here periodically so do not always immediately understand the nuances around here. Each to their own but to be honest I only dip into GAA and rugby occasionally, preferring football (the beautiful game), racing, cycling and cricket above all other sports. However, if this was on my doorstep, I'd turn up. I'll add it to my potential bucket list.

It's certainly in both organisation's best interest financially and the wider benefits that large sporting tournaments can give to any area. Hell knows we'll need this and more to continue the way back to some sort of progress.

Back to my initial feelings, why would the international rugby authorities favour a sole Ireland bid over one from say that includes Scotland or Wales or even England, for that matter. Just looking at past Rugby World Cups based in this part of the world.

By:
Ozymandius
When: 22 Aug 12 14:37
Not sure Jumper.  A shared bid can help in getting the number of votes required, perhaps that is one of the reasons it has been successful in the past.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 17:22
Please don't the messenger lads.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 17:38
'shoot'
By:
Wallflower
When: 22 Aug 12 20:09
Rocket - if you concentrate on the actualities of this situation:

- The Rugby World Cup could be a great economic boost for Ireland
- This is only a possibility if GAA stadiums are used
- These stadiums need upgrading, well some of them at least


The IRFU are obviously needed to make this happen but they are not the the key player here in terms of making it a reality, it's the GAA. 'Nuff said.

And you know what? They'll come through as they always do. I don't believe anybody in the IRFU will be needling the GAA about the status of their grounds in fact I think they'll be working hand-in-hand to help get funds to bring some of the provincial grounds up to international standards for smaller capacity grounds.

Oh and surprise, surprise, the FAI is a non-factor, not in a position to make any contribution whatsoever.....not having a "go", just calling it as it actually is. Unfortunately for them they'll lose out once again, when you can't get on the property ladder in any significant way after a hundred years it can get increasingly difficultMischief
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 20:34
Wallflower lads, if people like rugby they'll play it nothing the GAA can do about it, that's the point i was making, Wallflower the FAI own the Aviva, not sure why you're bringing them into. The GAA were 1 vote from becoming a laughing stock in this country by not allowing Rugby to use grounds that never see full houses these days. Salthill? Has that ever had a full house, no.
By:
richters
When: 22 Aug 12 20:47
salthill,r u serious rocket....the last connaught final played there mayo v galway....FULL HOUSE.....i was at it 2010 i think.....As would any connaught final be full in pearse stadium....
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 22 Aug 12 20:49
The Aviva is owned by the IRFU and FAI, 50/50
By:
Ozymandius
When: 22 Aug 12 20:51
The IRFU are obviously needed to make this happen but they are not the the key player here in terms of making it a reality, it's the GAA. 'Nuff said.

Cry  In that case we had best send the local Monsignor, Martin 'kneecaps' McGuinness and Paddy McGinty's goat over to the IRB to formally present the bid.  With a handful of freckled majorettes throwing a few shapes for decoration purposes.  Shure the Rose Bowl Pasadena has nothing on Semple Stadium.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 20:58
Not full that day, Pearce stadium can be difficult to get in and out of, that day parked the car nearly outside the ground. Obviously a good crowd not near capacity either. So many people come on here and don't do the simple thing, check your opinion before i always do this and so do all the bet posters i notice on these forums. takes 5 minutes, don't be lazy lads.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 21:01
LaughLaughLaugh Ozy
By:
richters
When: 22 Aug 12 21:02
rocket i was at the match and it was a full house...it was the day conor mortimer wore the rip michael jackson tshirt,the year before that castlebar was a full house aswell...
By:
richters
When: 22 Aug 12 21:04
typical nonsense from ozy.....ye wudnt say that to mcguinnesses face would ye?
By:
Ozymandius
When: 22 Aug 12 21:07
Sorry, is he a hero of yours?
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 21:16
I was at it, not a full house i know the man who had the "Full house" signs in his car for that day, he was full sure they'd be putting them up, but he had to keep them in the boot of the Mazda. That's how i know it was not a full house, look at it on Youtube clearly crush barriers are visible. Was a decent enough game that.
By:
richters
When: 22 Aug 12 21:41
its worse your gettin rocket ye know that....lol
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Aug 12 21:56
Ozy 20.51 What the feck would you know about "throwing shapes"LaughWink,next thing you will be telling us we will all be langerated on de gatt during it.Laugh
By:
GANT007
When: 22 Aug 12 22:24
Lets hope the IRFU can bag this and I'm sure the FAI will give a dig out in some way.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 22:36
I believe the FAI agreed not to schedule any home internationals or domestic cup finals for the dates concerned in their stadia.
By:
GANT007
When: 22 Aug 12 22:52
FAI only have a share in 1 real and the anchor tenants will have first call on it.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 22 Aug 12 23:04
They own it, like Premier and Ozy says above, Gant i know in your bigoted you hate to see them being so progressive.
By:
GANT007
When: 22 Aug 12 23:14
It's a 50/50 ground share split......we all know that.
To be fair I don't know too much about the FAI......They are led by John Delaney and have 160 staff on the books in abbottstown....it's a big operation.
By:
Wallflower
When: 23 Aug 12 13:02
The simple point being the FAI are not required to bring this to Ireland, they are not contributing. The IRFU are obviously, as are the GAA. I hope (but not sure) the country will gain economically, rugby will gain and the GAA will gain, financially at least.

The GAA are to be commended for once again coming to the nations' aid - I'm sure most will agree - even though it could potentially have a long-term negative impact if some players are lost to rugby.

The GAA has its faults, but anyone taking potshots at them over this is on very thin ice.


(I'm a member (and former player) of both a local GAA and Soccer club)
By:
kingrat
When: 23 Aug 12 13:15
the bid is doable as long as the fai are not involved cos they would fck up a cup of coffeeLaugh
By:
Tolmi
When: 23 Aug 12 13:24
The "GAA blew our hopes of hosting the Euro's" gives a great insight into the mindset of the OP.
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