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firstimevisor
10 Aug 12 10:15
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Just heard this fool declare on tv.."make no mistake about it,katie taylor is now THE biggest international star of this olympics in any sport"!!!
For god's sake man get a grip.

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By:
kavvie
When: 10 Aug 12 10:38
and what did he say wrong there?she is and if your irish(whick i doubt) be proud of her.she not usain bolt was on the front page of the financial times today..what does that tell you?
By:
firstimevisor
When: 10 Aug 12 10:58
quiet day in the stock market maybe! delighted she won and proud but no need to lose all sense of perspective here.Pistorius,Bolt,Phelps,Rudisha etc
By:
kavvie
When: 10 Aug 12 11:19
she would be joint most well known with usain bolt..fact.
By:
kavvie
When: 10 Aug 12 11:20
ny times today have an article..sports illustrated..the world is her oyster..
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 10 Aug 12 11:26
Seriously you think Katie Taylor would be as well known as Usain Bolt?

She did brilliant and fully deserved her gold medal after being at the top of her weight class for years. However womens boxing is a minority sport and while that does not take anything away from her remarkable achievement most will have never heard of any of the competitors in the discipline including Katie outside of Ireland.

Usain Bolt on the other hand is surely one of the biggest and best known sport stars on the planet who runs in the blue ribbon event and is the first man to win the 100m and 200m at consecutive Olympics. He is up there if not the biggest sporting superstar there is.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Aug 12 11:31
Kavvie on the wind up here.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Aug 12 11:40
Slightly off topic,but surely the best headline from yesterday was United States Manteo Mitchell in the 400m relay finishing his race to make sure they qualified for the final with a broken leg.
By:
kavvie
When: 10 Aug 12 11:51
i am a bit!!but i hate anyone demeaning her achievements
By:
Bassanio
When: 10 Aug 12 11:54
Comparisons with Usain Bolt re laughable but I assume they are said in jest. Bolt is up there with what Tiger Woods used to be and probably is close to still being.

One key example is that Katie did not appear on any news round up that I could see on ESPN last night, which means that it made no impression whatsoever in the States, or at least not enough to include in the programming schedule. She is a superstar and it is huge news here, in Britain and possibly a number of other countries. However many many countries simply would not care.
By:
richters
When: 10 Aug 12 11:57
what did mhartie say wrong please??????
By:
Bassanio
When: 10 Aug 12 12:02
They said last night that Rudisha's performance was one of the greatest seen on the track and it was. It was simply outstanding. However when asked would he transcend sport and the answer was an emphatic no. More people seemed interested in Bolt doing laps of honour than Rudisha getting presented with his medal.

Katie is currently huge in boxing circles and could be huge in the States if she turned pro. At the moment they don't care, or at least they care much less than they do about Manning making his debut, Howard transferring between teams or the Yankees winning the series. The world of boxing in general has really stood up and taken notice but it will be mostly within the confines of the sport and outside of Ireland and the UK, few people other than boxing fans will remember it.

Bolt is one of the biggest names in sport for the past 50 years and has probably been responsible for Track and Field beginning to get a little bit of coverage again after the drug scandals has destroyed it and relegated it to a level that the BBC red button would not even accommodate it.

Katie is a sensational athlete and has done the country proud, is a great ambassador for her sport and her country. She should be celebrated for everything she has achieved without ridiculous statements being used by media men that should really no much better.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Aug 12 12:06
Katie's fight would not have featured live or otherwise on the vast majority of tv networks worldwide.
By:
Bassanio
When: 10 Aug 12 12:07
The one comparison that would be valid is that Katie has almost single handedly brought Womens Boxing to the public consciousness and to the Olympics.

Bolt has similarly almost single handedly rescued a great sport and dragged it off its deathbed.

Both have done as much and more for their respective sports as they have for themselves.
By:
jumper
When: 10 Aug 12 12:15

Aug 10, 2012 -- 12:07PM, Bassanio wrote:


The one comparison that would be valid is that Katie has almost single handedly brought Womens Boxing to the public consciousness and to the Olympics. Bolt has similarly almost single handedly rescued a great sport and dragged it off its deathbed.Both have done as much and more for their respective sports as they have for themselves.


Excellent analysis, sums both up perfectly.

However, back to Marty. This time he's swept up in the emotion of all this but to be fair he is normally one of the poorer TV sports types, can't see him being around much longer and from what I hear big shake ups happening/soon to happen at RTE both in news and sports.

By:
squigs
When: 10 Aug 12 12:31
Of course Marty is swept up in sentiment. For all that coverage RTE need a good story and this is one. I will say though the NY Times article on Taylor is fantastic.

Been from the North Wicklow area and having met her a few times, from my own experience she is a unaffected individual who has worked so hard to get this far and even in this nation of begrudgers I struggle to find how anyone could have a bad word to say about her. A model sportsperson.
By:
bobbybocala
When: 10 Aug 12 12:50
kavvie's post at 11.19 is brilliant.....the ghoul was being serious......no doubt about it......had to backtrack when everybody else said he was on a wind up.....which he wasnt.....womens boxing is about as popular as......TG4......ok she won a gold medal in a nonsense sport.....but shes hardly usain bolt ffs......there was 11 in the division.....one fight to win a medal.....its like what the other nations said about the irish at the olympics......they won 5 medals....4 for scrapping and 1 for riding.....
By:
kavvie
When: 10 Aug 12 12:55
thats my joke bobby!!..your the guy who was riduculing katie from the start.im sure your surprised to see her the headline on all the papers and news bulletins in ireland and much of britain..
By:
lustrumm
When: 10 Aug 12 13:00
Have to agree with OP here. Had to switch off all forms of communication and read a book last night as could take any more of it. soem beauties I did hear. It actually ruined what had been a great performance for me

1. The above from Marty Morriseey
2. Jimmy "The Maggot" Mageee  "She is now the face of the Olympics. Err I think Jessica Ennis might have a bit to say about that
3. Bill O Herlihy (who I actually had a bit of respect for before he made an ass of himself here) calling for a Bank Holiday no less to celebrate.
4. Soem guy that used to spar with her on the Radio this morning "The greatest Athlete in History" surpassing Jesse Owens, Ed Moses, Carl Lewis, Michael Johson et al all in 1 Olympics in a 1st time Sport

Jaysus H

I am now reduced to watching the mes boxing on mute as I cannot listen to Jimmy the Maggott any longer and am thankful for SKY and the ability to watch proper coverage on BBC of the other Sports. RTE can have their "National Holiday" I'll stay in the real world
By:
lustrumm
When: 10 Aug 12 13:03
Oh yeah and one last beauty from Jimmy the Maggott

"Ireland Lives the Dream"

I actually had to check my bank account online after that one to see if someone had put a grand into it. Like some clown in Twitter said yesterday "The recession is over"

By the holy grace of God it is
By:
dj876
When: 10 Aug 12 13:06
Kenneth looking fairly tired,fell off the wagon last nite I'd saySurprised
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 10 Aug 12 13:09
Calling kavvie a ghoul is just wrong,he didn't backtrack he qualified.
There is something about Katie Taylor that is so winsome,she is unaffected unassuming and so pretty,she is also cool as a mountain stream ,
I watched the fight in a pub where tears flowed freely,the medal ceremony brought more tears(not mine)but she was calm as you like.Her interviews showed her character ,polite unassuming and when pressed on the bad behaviour of her Russian opponent  refused to criticise.
We are probably going over the top but so what,the bit I don't like is the arrival of a few vultures,the reptilian Max Clifford wheeled out by RTE openly touting for business.Taylors personality and character will mean she will be sought after she is a PRs dream,mind you we had a PRs dream before,pretty intelligent Fluent Irish speaker now whatever happened to her.
By:
reb
When: 10 Aug 12 13:18
I wonder what Brian Cody makes of it all.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 10 Aug 12 13:30
I thought nobody could eclipse Magee for sheer unadulterated, shameless hyberbole, but that comment from Morrissey has just shot him to favouritism in the race for the hyperbole Gold Medal, but I've a feeling Magee could regain the initiative if one or two of our male boxers win today.

Wildman, was there any need for O'Herlihy to press Katie on the Russians pre and post fight comments when she and her father were been interviewed last night live from London?, put the girl in an awkward spot, you got the feeling it was the last thing she wanted to talk about, he even reminded her of all the money she can make now ffs?, there is a time and a place for everything.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 10 Aug 12 13:55
I agree but I thought she answered with grace kind of showed up the questioner.
By:
jumper
When: 10 Aug 12 14:08

Aug 10, 2012 -- 1:30PM, silvergreaser wrote:


I thought nobody could eclipse Magee for sheer unadulterated, shameless hyberbole, but that comment from Morrissey has just shot him to favouritism in the race for the hyperbole Gold Medal, but I've a feeling Magee could regain the initiative if one or two of our male boxers win today. Wildman, was there any need for O'Herlihy to press Katie on the Russians pre and post fight comments when she and her father were been interviewed last night live from London?, put the girl in an awkward spot, you got the feeling it was the last thing she wanted to talk about, he even reminded her of all the money she can make now ffs?, there is a time and a place for everything.


Nice again to see someone so genuine and unassuming get to the top despite having to train still at home even after she first became world champ. yes, O'Herlihy is embarrassing. nothing usual there. Another one who won't be around much longer either, thanks be to god (As Katie would say!!)

By:
silvergreaser
When: 10 Aug 12 15:01
Watching the Russian and Thai fight and Magee spends half of it talking about Paddy Barnes.
By:
erris1
When: 10 Aug 12 23:53
really admire katie and all the work shes put in but the reaction has been ridiculous..like it or not she is competing in a minority sport..she scraped through the final that was probably closer than even the judges scored it..if shed won the 800 m or some major track event  i could understand the adulation but i cannot believe some of the comments..are people living in the real world..the amount of people ive heard saying shes the greatest Irish sportsperson ever..the major news agencies reporting her success see it as a novelty event..id still put sonia way ahead of her in terms of olympic achievement..
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 11 Aug 12 00:36
TBH I think Katies father and Katie herself looked terribly embarrassed with the 5hite coming out of O'Herlihy et al last night when being interviewed. D'Father was throwing his eyes away every time some hyperbole was spouted

She seems a very down to earth, humble athlete who loves her sport (What more can you ask)

Who cares whether she is bigger than anyone else. For One moment she was on top of her world (Only one that matters) and gave most of us a reason to smile and maybe aspire to better things Happy
By:
Vubiant
When: 11 Aug 12 01:40
I confidently expect to hear later today that Katie , having completed an ascent of K2, has brokered a ceasefire in Syria , initiated peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, turned down proposals of marriage from Usain Bolt and Tiger Woods and been appointed personal secretary to Ban Ki Moon.

Fluent Garlic speaker !!!LaughLaughLaugh
By:
workrider
When: 11 Aug 12 08:03
very well put diamond , katie is simply someone who loves doing what she does , the rest is a bonus...a lovely young woman and a great credit to her country....
By:
Giant Strides
When: 11 Aug 12 08:46
erris1
10 Aug 12 23:53
..........id still put sonia way ahead of her in terms of olympic achievement..


Goes without saying that erris. Sonia was in another league.
Jessica Ennis appears to have flown under our medias radar over the past week.

I'm delighted for Taylor because she's worked hard to get to where's she's at and her humility is refreshing and endearing, but the level of hyperbole attached to her achievements is embarrassing.
It's exactly why we are not taken seriously as a nation!
By:
freddiek
When: 11 Aug 12 09:37
Sonia was a great athlete in her own right but when the pressure was on in Olympics, we know what happened. She choked big-time in Atlanta. 4 years earlier she ran a bad tactical race and cost herself a medal

the pressure was not the same in Sydney and she got a silver, still a fine achievement

Katie has delivered the gold with the massive pressure and spotlight that has been on her over the past couple of years even
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 11 Aug 12 09:47
To be fair Vubiant, Katie can't do much about the 5hite peddled in what passes for media in this country.
As workride said above, she herself has done nothing wrong and is a massive credit to her country.
By:
GANT007
When: 11 Aug 12 10:04
Fair comment Diamond Joe.
By:
richters
When: 11 Aug 12 11:25
1 gets the distinct feeling of sour grapes here from the usual culprits ozy ozy ozy and vubiant......
By:
erris1
When: 11 Aug 12 12:03
four years earlier she chocked??! we all know 2 if not 3 of the medalists were doping at the time..she deserved a medal for that..her silver medal is a far more meritorious achievement than katies gold..she was competing in a world class event..katie is in a minority sport..she was 1-12 to win the final and with different judges it could have gone to a countback to compare that with what sonia faced is laughable..I do admire katie  greatly for what she achieved and she does appear to be a down to earth girl but have you seen the newspapers over the last two days??ridiculous
By:
jumper
When: 11 Aug 12 12:08
Not surprising the media goes overboard, it is pandering to what it perceives to be a national appetite. We really do need some more sporting role models in this country though and good news, is good news for a change.

Some elements of RTE though(Magee/Morrissey/O'Herlihy) would be the televisual equivalent of the tabloid press. They now look as if they are from another age, the mostly younger reporters coming up behind them must cringe at some of their comments. Like I said before, clear out is needed at RTE. Can't happen quick enough.

Katie, a big credit to all but for me Sonia edges it if it's an analysis between both sports.

You just feel with Katie that if you stopped her in the street next week, she'd be no different. This world would be a better place if we had more people like that around us.
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 11 Aug 12 12:48
we all know 2 if not 3 of the medalists were doping at the time..

Not our Sonia though Mischief
By:
Vubiant
When: 11 Aug 12 13:20
To clarify for the dim-witted , my comments were not directed at Ms. Taylor but were aimed at the total lack of perspective displayed by a slavering media.
Why would I exhibit 'sour grapes'? My life is not affected in any fundamental way whether the Irish team win twenty medals or zero.
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