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Definitely. Might not suit the trappa style tho
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possibly, hi zip
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If Lionel Messi and Diego Maradona had a child together, Trap wouldn't pick him if he hadn't already played in the qualifiers an didn't fit into the system!
I'll be amazed if someone makes the squad who hasn't already played for the team in the qualifiers |
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He is a Northern Ireland international. He should play for his country of birth.
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A lot can happen between here and June - Will depend on if there are any bad injury cases for him to get in though
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the kid could be playing for Barcelona and trap still wouldnt pick him.
Instead he will pick the mediocre duff, mcGeady , or Hunt coz he says it would be unfair not to he looks really good this lad though, doesnt he |
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he looked good today. trouble with trap is no one can tell him what to do, it has to be his idea and his way. maybe he is a bit set in his ways in his old age, a bit like our own wildman
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what was steve bruce thinking leaving him off the team,the lad could have saved his job.
note to gotchee he is playing for the country of his birth |
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We have to find some way of convincing Trapp it is his idea
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The chap has already played for Northern Ireland. The last time I looked at a map Derry was in Northern Ireland. He was happy enough to play for the North when he was with Derry CIty. It shouldn't be allowed.
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Neil Lennon played for the country of his birth but as soon as he signed for Celtic the windsor park faithful showed their true colours.So tell me Gotchee why would any player from a catholic/nationalist back round ever want to play for Northern Ireland and run the risk of the same abuse handed to Lennon and his family?
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You would have to ask Mc Clean why he initially chose to play for Northern Ireland even after Lennon was subjected to sectarian abuse. The only reason Mc Clean has chosen to opt for the Republic is because Ireland are in the European Championship finals, it is a simple as that. I think it is bad form and disrespectful to the I.F.A. who spotted his talent and gave him the opportunity to play for his country of birth. If Northern Ireland were playing in the European Champs and Republic were not, do you honestly think he would have declared for the Republic. Furthermore Neil Lennon fuels alot of controvercy himself. His recent comments about Rangers financial difficulties were ill advised to say the least.
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he has an Irish passport , not an British one
anybody from the nationalist community born on the Ireland of Ireland is IRISH not british END OF STORY |
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So what is the reason for all the other Northern born players deciding to declare for the Republic pre euro qualification?
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They are declaring for the Republic because they are the better team, it is as simple as that. It is a career decision and nothing got to do with being a nationalist or the passport they hold.
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I think Neil Lennon would very much disagree with your last point there Gotchee
Its fair to say that after what happened to Neil Lennon and the deplorable way he has been treated ( death threats FFS !! ) Catholics who play for the North know that its just not worth the hassle given the level of bigotry and hatred they will likely encounter This North -South problem we have here is somewhat unique in world football because of the special historical, social, and cultural circumstances. its not purely about football, there are so many other things to consider . So if a player born in Ulster wishes to play for the republic thats his choice and his right. |
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Pat Jennings and Gerry Armstrong who played at the height of the troubles were proud to play for the North. No one has explained why Mc Clean Duffy, Gibson, Ferguson changed their allegiances. I doubt if it is for the cultural circumstances.
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that was 30 years ago, things have changed since then, although the troubles are over,the bigotry and hatred from Rangers fans in the North is much much worse than it ever was , that's essentially why they dont want to play for Northern Ireland, as they know they will never be accepted.
How could anybody who's a catholic want to play for the North when they will just be made to feel uncomfortable, and unwelcome from their own supporters. the situation with Lennon has set a huge precedent, nobody wants to put themselves in his shoes again |
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Jennings and Armstrong had no choice Gotchee, it doesn't mean the secterenisim was not there, look at Anton Rogan. They also obviously played in a better NI team.
The situation has improved though McCourt and McGinn both play for the North and they are not going to receive the abuse Lennon receives. The situation can not be allowed to continue, as a southerner I want us to get the best players but neither should I or others be ignorant of the long term damage to the game both sides of the border this can do. The North will continue to suffer a flight of talent and players born in the Republic unable to get a game anywhere. I would rather an All Ireland team and would consider it a magnificent step forward but a minority of intolerance would never accept it and suits at the IFA and FAI would be out of jobs so it won't happen. |
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bardo
Joined: 08 Mar 05 Replies: 1143 04 Feb 12 21:10 the kid could be playing for Barcelona and trap still wouldnt pick him. Instead he will pick the mediocre duff, mcGeady , or Hunt coz he says it would be unfair not to he looks really good this lad though, doesnt he Nothing like a bit of perspective in threads like this. A lad who has played a handful of first team games in England after being signed for a couple of hundred grand should be picked ahead of McGeady and Duff, who have both been transferred for eight figure sums in their careers, with the latter arguably in the top 5 players to have played for his country. |
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McGeady has been playing for Ireland for the last 8 years.. since 2004 he has scored 2 times in 46 games.
How many times do you see him try and do a bit of trickery, he beats the first man, then he usually loses the ball and falls over. Duff is injured half the time, he is nearly 33, his best days are over coz he's lost a few yaers of pace. Hunt is usually brought on late as a sub.Goood player but often just runs around the pitch like a lunatic. Roy Keane was another lad who played a handful of games for forest in 1991 after coming over from Cork ,and he turned out all right didnt he. McClean deserves his chance , we know all about what the others can do. |
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should clearly be in the squad but knowing Trapp, no chance
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When Stephen Hunt does his ankle in May would Trapp replace him with Mcclean then ? It will certainly be an interesting few months as Mcclean further proves his quality. Whatever happens there are quite a few young Irish players coming through and potentially Ireland have one of their best squads to pick from over the next decade.
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Amazing how people that cant say a good word about the League of Ireland suddenly cream themselves when players like Mcclean,Coleman,Houlihan,Doyle etc suddenly move to Britain as if these guys became amazing players overnight.
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If you eat a cream cake in a bowl of sh1te it will taste like sh1te
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The thing is there are guys in that current Ireland team who would be more suited to the LOI, i.e. Hunt, Whelan, Andrews, Kelly , McShane
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The younger guys can only improve by playing against better opposition week in week out. If they look great every week in LOI then it is not a test for them. Better for them to struggle in the English game and find a way to get better against quality opponents then cruise through the game in Ireland. Better for the LOI clubs to be looked upon as feeder clubs getting decent transfer fees plus add ons for further transfers. This will only improve the standard of LOI , just as good for the money to go to them as say Plymouth or Southend.
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The gotchee makes some very valid points but im im afraid he is p1ssing in the wind trying to enlighten morons like zipifried and bardo.I am proud to say i am a Northern Ireland supporter and as long as whoever wears the jersey is proud to wear it and gives 100% on the pitch then i couldnt care less if they are catholic, protestant,hindu,muslim or jehovahs witness.
As for Neil Lennon,i doubt if his own ma likes him! |
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very nice of you inside info,im sure you are genuine etc.but theres a bigoted crowd following ni and any catholic playing for them lately have been booed?..you ok but sadly the vast majority of the crowd arnt!!
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good for you insideinfo, but its fair to say you would not be representative of the avg ni supporter..................the gotchee is talking sh$te by the way
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got to go not even squad 1st 11
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good again tonite. he clearly is a team player, put in some good crosses on the left
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Regardless of the side issues,the simple facts are that if he continues to play as well as he has then surely he must be given a chance.
Would be ideal to blood him in one of the upcoming friendlies to show what he has to offer. |
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Not in squad, a total ****ing joke
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Makes you wonder does trap watch any football himself ?
Surely someone close to him must have noticed McClean's performances to date ? |
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Too exciting and too much flair for Trapp-just wants players who'll do what they're told,and no he watches fook all football.
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I honestly don't understand Trap, his record is good for Ireland but come on how he left James McClean out is just sad.
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Baffling decsion nt to include him!
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There's no fool like an old fool.
Very strange decision indeed and looks like it's a done deal now as to what our squad will be for the Euros. |