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db1974
11 Oct 11 21:35
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According to this site below, here's the top 20 (plus relevant others) rankings using Uefa coefficient

we are currently ranked http://www.world-results.net/uefa/ranking.html#2011

01 Spain
02 Netherlands
03 Germany
04 Italy
05 England
06 Russia
07 Portugal
08 Croatia
09 Greece
10 Sweden (automatically qualifier as best runner-up)
11 France
12 Denmark
13 Serbia
14 Ukraine
15 Ireland
16 Bosnia and Herzegovina
17 Slovakia
18 Czech Republic
19 Turkey
20 Switzerland
33 Montenegro
38 Estonia

So by my reckoning, with 4 teams below us in the rankings, we are guaranteed a seeding for the playoffs and therefore a match against one of the 4 teams in bold below us on the list above
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Report curlywatt October 11, 2011 9:43 PM BST
yes you are spot on, muppets on rte couldn't even do their homework on this, oh my do they piis me off
Report thefly10 October 11, 2011 9:45 PM BST
Ole ole ole ole ole Top team, top teaaam!!!Laugh
Report yort October 11, 2011 9:48 PM BST
that sounds pretty perfect.....Turkey would be a nightmare though
Report curlywatt October 11, 2011 9:51 PM BST
what everyone's preference as to who we draw ?
Report Dan Chipowski October 11, 2011 9:52 PM BST
I'd hope for Estonia to be honest, although as bad as we are I wouldn't fear any of them.
Report db1974 October 11, 2011 9:57 PM BST
FT: France 1-1 Bosnia so Bosnia confirmed as the last playoff team. They are seeded too.

I'd be happy with anyone bar Turkey

Ironically we'll be the team that the 4 low seeds will want to get.
Report vinnie_roe October 11, 2011 9:58 PM BST
RTE are pathetic. I'm praying for France to get an equaliser, and we are already top seeds.
Report Wallflower October 11, 2011 9:58 PM BST
Thanks db - was wondering where the rankings were. UEFA site only up to 7th SeptemberShocked
Report keen leader October 11, 2011 10:07 PM BST
so if we can get one of 4 from czech, turkey, monten, or estonia...assuming czechs have not passed out bosnia in the rankings.

estonia and monten are the weakest, as weak as us and importantly a bit like armenia tonight, never been in a real qualifying do or die match before and likely to freeze.

i watched a good bit of turkey/germany on friday and there game tonight, they are not a good team, it would be a borefest and of course the trip to hell as well, they are like us under pressure from the fans, the players are not as good as the previou vintage.

now the team to avoid is czech, forget about the bull that they are ageing, they were excellent last month in a friendly against belarus, simply didnt try against spain, saved themsevles for tonight and pummelled a fair lithuanian outfit. they are most definitely the in form lower seed(if they remain a lower seed).

i would make rep about 6/4 to overcome czech, 11/10 overcome turkey, 5/6 to beat monten, 8/13 to defeat estonia.
Report keen leader October 11, 2011 10:07 PM BST
so if we can get one of 4 from czech, turkey, monten, or estonia...assuming czechs have not passed out bosnia in the rankings.

estonia and monten are the weakest, as weak as us and importantly a bit like armenia tonight, never been in a real qualifying do or die match before and likely to freeze.

i watched a good bit of turkey/germany on friday and there game tonight, they are not a good team, it would be a borefest and of course the trip to hell as well, they are like us under pressure from the fans, the players are not as good as the previou vintage.

now the team to avoid is czech, forget about the bull that they are ageing, they were excellent last month in a friendly against belarus, simply didnt try against spain, saved themsevles for tonight and pummelled a fair lithuanian outfit. they are most definitely the in form lower seed(if they remain a lower seed).

i would make rep about 6/4 to overcome czech, 11/10 overcome turkey, 5/6 to beat monten, 8/13 to defeat estonia.
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner October 11, 2011 10:12 PM BST
confirmed to be seeded, another roller-coaster on its way
Report db1974 October 11, 2011 10:12 PM BST
Lithuania can't be that fair - they lost to Liechtenstein in the Qualifiers
Report Temlett October 11, 2011 10:16 PM BST
Where has it been confirmed?
Report neill d October 11, 2011 10:20 PM BST
well done db, the lads in that sports department in Montrose are an absolute **** joke, excuse the language, but it is true. Whether this has been confirmed or not, I don't know, but you'd think one of their researchers would know the rules. db certainly seems to have more of an idea than the info transmetted to the boys on the telly.

Are these people even interested in sport?, whether we are seeded are not is probably the crucial factor in deciding whether we qualify.
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner October 11, 2011 10:22 PM BST
2205 The FAI have confirmed via Twitter that Ireland will be seeded for the play-off draw.
Report anfeild October 11, 2011 10:25 PM BST
How would you expect rte to know. Sure they where reporting the spanish and other game in the group as finished when there was ten minutes left. Rte are a shambles.
Report yort October 11, 2011 10:27 PM BST
They couldnt even agree whether the seeded teams play their home leg last or whether its a draw to see who plays at home first.......Not that i know but its not my job to know, i pay 160 odd quid a year for them to tell me. The research team must be absolutely under resourced or completley incompetent
Report neill d October 11, 2011 10:30 PM BST
Plenty of lads here could research an international soccer match on their own, these guys have either very little interest or are just a bit thick.
Report anfeild October 11, 2011 10:32 PM BST
They just don't bother doing any research. Giles does not know any player outside the premership. At least Dunphy for all his faults does actually watch some football.
Report neill d October 11, 2011 10:33 PM BST
Remember the 1'oclock news bulletin where the guy called John Higgins Alex 'Hurricane' Higgin's son, Jesus Christ, Ron Burgundy wouldn't do that, how in the name of God do they get through the interview phase? It must be either blackmail, nepotism, bribery or a very swanky address.
Report neill d October 11, 2011 10:35 PM BST
That is true anfeild, Gilesy has lost his gra for football it seems to me, needs to be paid to watch games now, but surely someone should be in his ear with the info.
Report yort October 11, 2011 10:39 PM BST
theyre not the only culprits....Newstalk sports bulletin read out by some lass in the afternoon on Saturday:

"Irelands hopes of reaching a world cup semi final were dealt a severe blow today after suffering defeat to Wales"

Down but not quite out eh? Maybe there were two wales players wearing no 7 jerseys and George hamiltons on the case
Report neill d October 11, 2011 10:45 PM BST
Laugh, that is more poor use of language, but yeah, those with a passing interest would have been looking forward to the second leg.
Report anfeild October 11, 2011 10:51 PM BST
SEEDED: Portugal, Croatia, Ireland, Czech Rep.

UNSEEDED: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Turkey., Estonia, Montenegro

Hope to get Estonia. Turkey the obvious one to avoid. Big advantage getting seeded.
Report db1974 October 11, 2011 10:54 PM BST
That goal by France really cost Bosnia there. They went from automatic qualification to 2nd-seed in the playoffs.

They are useful enough too, wouldn't like to get them at all.
Report shlotter October 12, 2011 12:30 AM BST
I fancy our chances against anyone except the Turks. No doubt if we get the Turks again, they will try pulling the same stunts as they did last time out...
Report shlotter October 12, 2011 12:31 AM BST
We should really leave Gilesey alone...Leave him to his coddle in peace!
Report curlywatt October 12, 2011 12:56 AM BST
well looking at who is seeded, would france not have been seeded if they had not got a result ? then who us or the Czech Republic ? czech jumped above bosnia with their win i am guessing, did they jump above us also ?
Report curlywatt October 12, 2011 1:10 AM BST
7th seed Croatia
11th seed Portugal 
13th seed Ireland
15th seed Czech Republic
18th seed Turkey   
19th seed Bosnia and Herzegovina 
35th seed Montenegro
37th seed Estonia 

come on rte ts not rocket science
Report Rocketfingers October 12, 2011 1:55 AM BST
Dunphy is a grade A clown, keeps on harping on about how Coleman should be playing and he has a point but you would think Coleman is a god that way he goes on about him, Coleman if you have watched his games this season has played quite poorly. Still even Coleman playing poorly is better than McGeady even if he is a right back.

By the way Dunphy was fuming tonight, looks like he had beet Armenia.
Report shlotter October 12, 2011 7:02 AM BST
you think McGeady went to Russia just for money ;)
Report ReimerpYsatnaf October 12, 2011 9:45 AM BST
How do you know Dunphy was fuming if you where at the game and only got back at 1.39 according to your post on the Armenia thread? MischiefDevilSilly


Anyhow i would not fancy Ireland against any of them bar Estonia.
Report Rocketfingers October 12, 2011 11:16 AM BST
Lol premier you never heard of sky+?
Report BJG October 12, 2011 1:47 PM BST
Can beat Montenegro or Estonia

Cant beat Bosnia or Turkey


In my opinion Cool
Report benny_ROBS_roy October 12, 2011 2:06 PM BST
can beat all 4
Report punchestown October 12, 2011 2:15 PM BST
Would prefer Estonia,Montenegro,Turkey  in that order and least Bosnia.
Report BJG October 12, 2011 2:21 PM BST
Assuming Doyle + Keane Out


---------------Given

Coleman---Dunne---St Ledger----O Shea

Duff---McCarthy---Andrews---Walters

-------------Long----Cox


Subs:
Keeper
O Dea
Kelly
Whelan
Best
Mcgeady
Hunt

Get it sorted Trap Cool
Report BJG October 12, 2011 2:21 PM BST
Im sure i've forgotten 1 or 2

Fahey maybe
Report zipifried October 12, 2011 2:52 PM BST
Duff is useless , no chance Trap will bring in Mccarthy, coleman or Fahey. It will be same team with Long strangely overlooked again. The only team we  can beat over 2 legs is Estonia. This seems like the worst team in decades but we are ranked 15th ??? and will probably qualify  and get embarrassed in finals but who cares as long a we get there.
Report punchestown October 12, 2011 3:12 PM BST
BJG,Whelan would have to have a broken leg for Trapp to drop him.
Report TheMust October 12, 2011 6:44 PM BST
Duff is useless bLaughLaughLaugh

Due you even know how many players are on the pitch?
Report db1974 October 13, 2011 12:14 PM BST
Estonia
Report vinnie_roe October 13, 2011 12:38 PM BST
we are now 2/5 to qualify Happy
Report punchestown October 13, 2011 1:51 PM BST
1/3 with hill$
Report neill d October 13, 2011 2:19 PM BST
Class, makes the summer
Report Rocketfingers October 13, 2011 2:34 PM BST
If we qualify lads ffs, don't jinx us Laugh

We do have a great auld chance though. Cool
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