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19 Jun 11
19:55
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Question: im in a shop which guarantees its singles,i back a horse at say 4/1,there is then a 15c rule 4 applied to my bet because of a non runner,my horse opens up at 6/1 and wins at 8/1. does the rule 4 of 15c then get taken away from the 8/1 or does the bookmaker pay me fully at 8/1 seeing as they guarantee the price
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don't get me started....
your bet was struck at 4/1 less 15c = 3.4/1. There is a rule 4 on the EP book. Your horse wins at 8/1. assuming that the non runner was a non runner prior to final prices being published then your bet should be paid at 8/1. There is no Rule 4 on the SP However i've lost count of the number of times I've had this row in a betting shop and a lesser fighter than me might have given in... |
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Unless the NR was just before the off and the market hadn't reformed but otherwise you should get the 8/1
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its happened a couple of times in the last week NR a good 2 hours before the off,market reformed my horse drifts and wins and im still getting hit with a rule 4 at the bigger price??? doesnt make sense if the price is being guaranteed.according to the powers staff the rule 4 overides the guaranteed price,ive never heard such bull,powers seem to be the only ones applying this
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murphy has nobody pulled powers up about getting away with this
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Had a similar scenario with Bruces just this week, and was paid in full at the bigger price.
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yea i know that bruces and laddies are paying the full amount but the only ones wha arent are powers
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da fallon factor 21 Jun 11 11:51
murphy has nobody pulled powers up about getting away with this Nobody is in a position to pull them up over anything that's the root of the problem. I can't understand it as all these bets should be settled centrally thru EPOS now and I've confirmed with PP head office that what I've stated above is correct. See the similar debate on another thread about reserves. In most instances - in my opinion - the quality of betting shop manager is so poor they don't even understand the logic behind it. There must be millions lost by punters every year in rule 4 deductions incorrectly attribute, best odds not being applied and returns uncollected when reserves fill one of the places. I know we will never reach a situation where the betting industry is properly regulated but this stinks of sharp practice to me |
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magic sign are the ones to watch at this
worse when it's : 3/1 rule4 30c sp 11/4 "But we're giving you the bigger price 3/1" |
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yeah have had this hassle with ladbrokes cupwink, not all ladbrokes shops just the odd one here and there. some of the people they employ are so thick .
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