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workrider
02 May 11 11:18
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just some of the little things i noticed on my trip last week....the first bet i had at ascot was £45 on a 7/1 shot the bookie called to his clerk a pony @ 7/1...when i corrected him and called my bet back to him he was not best pleased ...elg was with me and i turned to him and said these english certinly take the hiss ...in the last race i had  £100 at 11/1 with badbrokes ...as i was heading back  to the lads i came through the cheap ring were the bookie in the very last pitch was going 17/2 about the horse i'd backed with badbrokes @ 11/1 ..now thats some differance no matter what kid of money you're backing in....on to bath had a bet with badbrokes on silverwere @ 6/1 he immediately had half my bet with the bookie beside him ..it went to 4/1 in the blink of an eye ...finally the tote, as there was no away bookie that i could see betting at perth i had to bet with the tote ..3 mins before the off doorboy was showing at 10/1 on the nanny had £300 on it was returned at just over 4/1 i was not amused i can tell you when i saw the returns ...lastly martin scruff showing 2/1 just before the off had £300 on this ..returned odds on ....never again will i bet with the nanny...on to bangor did most of my betting with p whelan backed the first winner with him @ 11/4 returned 3/1..had a look around the cheap ring as racing progressed and some real chancers there, betting well below the odds in some cases...you have to have your wits about you on course and thats a fact...
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Report Newmanix May 2, 2011 11:33 AM BST
You are leaving yourself open to some jibes by your fans on here.
Report workrider May 2, 2011 11:37 AM BST
just saying it as i saw it newmanix.. my fans wait with baited breath for my imputs ...their own  lives are so shallow they live their lives through me...
Report Newmanix May 2, 2011 12:12 PM BST
Sounds like you had a good weeks punting.  You fancy anything for Punchestown?
Report TradeFair May 2, 2011 3:24 PM BST
At least most of the pitches over there pay double result.
Report Princesse D'Anjou May 2, 2011 4:13 PM BST
Hope you had a good trip - tbh with various accs over the phone with 365 and BOG with them too I seldom bet on-course (bar at the points).
Report workrider May 2, 2011 5:14 PM BST
had a great few days thanks lads...never backed a winner at ascot ..but from the second race on at bath it was winner after winner ....well not exactly winner after winner but it felt like it...ended up well ahead ...plus enjoyed the company of other formites who were really nice people ...so yes all round a great few days ..cant wait till next year....
Report workrider May 2, 2011 5:19 PM BST
tomorrow i fancy golden silver e/w thought at one stage at cheltenham he was going to win ..but he folded tamely.. he loves punchestown so would fancy him strongly to be in the first 2...i also like hidden universe in the novice hurdle...
Report Newmanix May 2, 2011 6:14 PM BST
good man. I like Majestic oak this week at a working mans price hopefully.
Report wildmanfromborneo May 2, 2011 9:10 PM BST
Trade Fair with you being in the betting industry you should know racecourse bookmakers bet rules of racing.
Report workrider May 2, 2011 10:14 PM BST
i never checked tbh.. but they never said they paid double result on their boards...so i find it hard to belive they do pay double result..
Report never give up May 2, 2011 10:48 PM BST
they dont
Report Mordin. May 3, 2011 12:10 AM BST
Sounds like a very enjoyable few days. Ascot racecourse is magnificent, Bath fairly basic, never been to Perth.
Report one last chance May 3, 2011 1:04 AM BST
jesus lad just get the best price and get on with it savage day at the maze
Report TradeFair May 3, 2011 1:46 AM BST
Where have I said I work in the betting industry? More to the point where have I said I work! Certain bookmakers pay double result on course. The give away will be the sign that says "we pay double result".
Report never give up May 3, 2011 2:07 AM BST
you said at least MOST off the pitches over there pay double result.what tracks and what books OFFER this?
Report TradeFair May 3, 2011 2:12 AM BST
Do your own research.
Report wildmanfromborneo May 3, 2011 10:25 AM BST
Workrider is a seasoned racegoer on both sides of the Irish Sea and he knows like i do that racecourse bookmakers all bet rules of racing.For Tradefair to suggest otherwise is wrong maybe he is talking about offices but his last comment...Do your own research...was the sign of a man running away.
Report never give up May 3, 2011 11:25 AM BST
tradefair i dont have to do any research to know that u r talking b ollocks
Report TradeFair May 3, 2011 11:33 AM BST
I'm not running as such but I don't care either way. If I could provide a link to the information online, I would. I know that there are pitches in the UK that offer double result. I've seen it with my own two eyes. It stood out to me because no one ever does it in Ireland.

Sunderland's do it but they do not bet cash on course, they just bet clients. The only online reference I could find is:



http://www.betwatsons.com/rules/default.aspx

[i]3. DOUBLE RESULT CONCESSION
We pay out on the double result on horseracing in the UK & Ireland only. Offer applies to all bets e.g. Singles and Multiple Bets, win or each-way with maximum payouts as per our normal rules. “First Past the Post” is not accepted. – see full details below for conditions & exceptions. Conditions & Exceptions: In the event of an amended result because of an objection and/or a steward’s enquiry Watsons will pay out on BOTH RESULTS. Exceptions to this rule when the “Official Result” only will apply are the following:
 
h) any bet placed on course at any racecourse.


There is obviously others but it matters not to me. Do your own research.
Report never give up May 3, 2011 11:37 AM BST
u said MOST of the books do it.does that not mean more than half off them?????????????????
Report TradeFair May 3, 2011 11:40 AM BST
more   

–adjective, compar. of much or many with most as super

in greater quantity, amount, measure, degree, or number: I need more money.


You said none.
Report wildmanfromborneo May 3, 2011 11:40 AM BST
There must be something wrong with your two eyes when even the example you cite states an exception to the double result concession is ....H.any bet placed on course at any racecourse...can you not see you are making my case for me.
Report TradeFair May 3, 2011 11:50 AM BST
Fair enough. Therefore I can't prove my point so I have to walk away.
Report wildmanfromborneo May 3, 2011 11:59 AM BST
This was a first someone putting up a link that demolished their own point but at least you have accepted the situation.
Report never give up May 3, 2011 12:04 PM BST
betwatsons have one pitch only and thats at perth.....hth tradefair
Report wildmanfromborneo May 3, 2011 12:14 PM BST
Never Give Up...Will you please read his Betwatson reference in which they state that the exception to the double result concession is on the racecourse where rules of racing will apply,now when you have finished laughing you are entitled to think...Told you so.
Report never give up May 3, 2011 12:16 PM BST
i did Laugh
Report workrider May 3, 2011 12:37 PM BST
i'm glad we sorted that out.....i'd nearly go live in the uk if that was the case.....
Report never give up May 3, 2011 1:04 PM BST
Laugh
Report TradeFair May 3, 2011 3:07 PM BST
You're entitled to laugh at the link, my fault for not reading it. I was desperatley trying to find any mention of it online. Perhaps I had too much to drink at the meeting but I was under the impression I saw it on at least 3 or 4 pitches. The only one I can remember is Sunderlands but I realise they don't count.
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