Limerick Evening meeting Tues 5th April

Student night, big piss up expected, first thing to note

Mite travel down so

As for the card, there is one standout bet for me and that will be my only bet - dont like the early season flat

Dance Secretary 5.15

Ran a very eyecatching race on debut at Leopardstown over 7f in July - when staying on well to take third beaten just 2l in a race that could nt have worked out much better

Kissable 2l in front in 1st - was 3rd in a G3 nto and was beaten just over 1l into 3rd in the G1 Moylare Stud Stakes
Spin a neck behind in 4th - won by 4 1/2l nto
Inca Princess over 1l behind in 5th - won nto
Sapphire 5l behind in 6th - won nto

Dance Secretary was held up out the back this day and stayed on very eyecatchingly the last2 furlong to get 3rd and it should only be a matter of time b4 she breaks her duck and this looks a good opportunity

-Asheerah was said to be the 2nd coming b4 her debut but has been a beaten fav 3 times in her 3 runs and generally dissaponted
-Vastitas step back upto 7f a plus?? I dont think so
-Sionian well beaten by Sapphire on debut who Dance Secretary has well covered on form

The Weld and Stack newcomers could be anything of course but i think it will take a good newcomer to beat the Oxx horse here - 6/4 or better would do me fine

7.15,Mutiska @ 12/1
Ran 3 good efforts under S Foley over 12 and 14F. Down to 11F with J Murtagh on board running off 63.
Has to be great E/W value at 12/1.

Was in leopardstown the day Dance Secretary ran BJG and remember being told before the race that it needed good ground, going to be very soft there tomorrow, going was good to firm that day in leopardstown. A lay at that price for me, in these conditions

Ground is the worry, been rainin on and off here all day[>o]

Thread carefully with that one BJG. Ground could throw up a lot of funny results there tomorrow. I agree with the fly10, West Coast Dream looks the best bet on the card for me, on an upward curve, good jockey and proven in these conditions.

West Coast Dream looked a sprinter at the Curragh i dont think he will stay the mile,when he last raced over a mile in Dundalk he patently didnt stay,admittedly he is a year older and there is stamina on his dams side but i still think he is a lay and maybe even a place lay.

On Luddenmore 7.15 Limerick and i think thats well worth a small ew punt at the price.A winner over a mile on the flat (good to firm) last year on a 1lb lower mark i think its fair to say he improved over the winter over hurdles for a combination of things,a step up in trip,cut in the ground and a general improvement on anything he should before.A 2L 2nd to highly regarded Plan A (now rated 132 over jumps) was the highlight of several solid efforts.

This is a very average 0-70 handicap and if Luddenmore can reciprocate that improved jumps form back to the flat,i think the cut will suit as will the stiffish 1m 3f trip and a mark of 62 against these gives him decent claims,not one to have the mortgage but at a decent price worth a small ew nibble or one for an ew multiple.



i also like the look of Obligada in the 4.45,she has at least 10lb in hand on official figures,was a winner 1st time out last season and over C/D and can be backed at 6.8 in a 6 horse race,i think thats great value.

Dance Secretary being backed like soft ground is not an issue.
Oblique really should need further than this on breeding azzkikr.

4.45 Shelley Beach
5.15 Dance Secretary
7.15 Reach The Stars


All bein smashed up

Been dry here all day so hopefully dried out a bit and as i say, till they get beaten on it, i wont say they cant go on it

Good start for layers, FFS

wd azzkikr

Betfair Starting Price:       8.468051

Unlucky BJG

Some race.  Two decent looking hosses.

[>o]

Backed the winner on her 3 runs last season

had a small few pound on the winner dutched it with offa ...thought it was going to hiss up at one stage ..murtagh hard to pass ...

Wonky d supreme after timer. LOL

stay off the wine ffs littlewilly ..

2011-04-05
17:24    14261537932     2011-04-05
17:11     IRE Lim 5th Apr / 17:15 7f Mdn / Asheerah
Back          5.50    25.00    Won         112.50

swampfire ..might be the answer to the next ...blinkers will liven this fellow up ..he hung like mad at leop ..so going right handed just might be a help....

Young Joseph put up 3 lb o/weight on Sionan in the 5 15. I thing the stewards will allow 3 lb overweight. Surely they won't allow this to happen on a regular basis.

I see Lady O'Reilly had a winner Obligada in the first race.

That reminds me of Chris Hayes. He is really going to struggle this year if as seems likely he has lost the retainer to her. I know he is sitting out a suspension at the moment.

Always amazes me this forum.
Atop meeting on Sunday and barely a post throughout.
An average meeting tonight and posts galore!

Well done azzkikr. Certainly flummoxed me that one.
First time out winner is an angle I like too, but the pedigree screams distance. Beat Hollow a 10f animal, and I remember backing the dam for SM Prescott. Also a Lo`R mare who only got the message over 12/14f as a 3 yo! They would make a mockery of you.
It did actually win that race last summer over the slightly longer trip though.

Giant Strides we were all at the races on Sunday hence few posts.

... looking back on it giant ..swampfire was the bet of the night ...

Surely not everyone wmfb?
Happens on a regular basis. A summer hurdling meet at Kilbeggan will get more interest. I don`t get it!
Well done wr. Top ride from Murtagh. He wasn`t letting lightning strike twice! Watch for the 2nd over shorter. Surprised they asked her to go a mile on debut. The family were all sprinters

Enjoying a fine Muga here wonky, not that u would know ajything about decent wine.

berry very weak there

littlewilly i notice its allowance day today ..your mother buy you a bottle of red biddy then.....

i agree with wildman ...most on here are out on a sunday giant...either racing or gaa..always quiet on sundays...

I can assure you I work for a living Wonky thank god. I am able to afford a few nice things in life and wine is a fav of mine.

dont we know littlewilly , dont we know....

gosh the place is packed tonight with students ...good piece of p.r. there , well done limerick....

Serious eye catcher in d last there. Not off a yard. Hope it gets a mark in low 60's or less.

Care to name him Bigwillystyle.

I'm sure if u looked hard enough wildclown even you could see it. Hopefully it will do d business soon

What is the betting that when a winner comes out of that race the nervous Bigwillystyle will be on crowing about his great spot,well you have given yourself fourteen chances to be right....brave call.

Nice try Wildclown. Goading won't work

you have him under the cosh wildman....

Wonky even you could spot d 'eyecatcher there. Wildclown knows nothing about racing. I thought u had some insight Wonky

saw it too.woman trainer gives a clue!!

Thatsurrocco is on the ball.

A couple of air shots up d straight

LOL at wonky and Wildclown gone to look at replay of race. No wonder ye boys don't back winners.

had no bet in the race so no interest ...of course you'll say this is after timeing as well ...

FFS Wonky you couldn't make it up.

Cleary was crying out for some arses to stick his mount up down the straight. To my eye, he did hit the horse rather than air, but for me, and I'm not harsh that way, I think that warrants a 40 day holiday etc...

Paddy I wouldn't be giving a ban for that. It's all part of d game. Fellas like Wonky can't sit thi gs like that it shouldn't brio to d stewards to point it out to him.

i will remind you littlewilly you did already accuse me of after timing earlier ..but as usual i proved you wrong ......you're all mouth and no action ...

The stewards might be blind, but the handicapper isnt and he will make his mark as meaty as he can after that. Remember though, horses with that profile from that yard dont always work out, see Ted Dolly and A Hit Is A Hit. You will remember that the one that would have been a real bonanza didnt quite work out either, with Whispering Wind getting pinged for non trying over 5f at Navan and then being let loose straight after...

Quite right Paddy. Stable not very good at hiding ability.

unlike you eh littlewilly.... ....

Wonky you showed your true colours when you couldn't even name the horse.  I always thought you had no idea about racing but you have proved beyond doubt that is the case tonight.

How could I forget the best job Joanna ever did, getting Raise Your Heart in off a mark of 50. That was a top class effort.

Wating for your chum Wildclown.......

I flushed you out,you were deliberately vague preparing the way for a future crow.It is the easiest thing in the world to say you spotted a future winner in any maiden as there are loads of them you tried it before and then came on proclaiming yourself a great judge...you are a bluffer as well as a choker.

Wildclown you couldn't spot it. You are a waffler. Why in d name of god would I want to point out a non trier to u if you can't spot it ureself

the wine is starting to kick in methinks littlewilly ...i already stated i had no bet in th race so had no interest ..simples.. back to the real point ..you said i was an after timer when i said i had a small few pound on the winner earlier at limerick ..i posted  up the bet but you never came back to me about it ...you're a sad little wine drinker imo...btw there was a non trier in the last at exeter can you name it ...?

Wonky don't punt on English racing as a rule. Don't watch it.

..littlewilly hope you and thickster had a wonderful birthday on april 1st ..dont think i'll be answering anymore of your post ...you've become boring ... good night and goodbye little fella...over and out....

Its irrelevant whether i spotted it or not the point is you were preparing the ground for a future crow it is debatable whether you watched the race,anyway it makes no difference as you would be unable to back it with your trembling hands.As an aside read the whole thread you might learn something.

bigwilly it's just not worth it anymore. wonky is not the village idiot he is the WORLD idiot. i am surprised at wildman. seems reasonably intelligent but keeps getting sucked in by wonky!!!!!!!! HOW?

As do you you clown slick rick, how's everything in the dubin 6 area anyway ?

9,000 was some crowd, great night, went out after 6 having been cleaned out on Dance Secretary. Only bet of the night. Last major night out before the exams, if they had another one of these in the middle of May, theyd pack it out again. Don't know how much the bars on course would have made though, a lot of naggans flying around

Anyone see Wonky down there with his Flaggan of cider? He would have been d scruffy fella with a dirty look about him.

Fair play to Limerick, great turnout again this year.
How many other courses do these student nites?
Did Cork have one last week?

Does Leopardstown have one?

Naas and NUIM should be teaming up imo.

Bigwillystyle posts a general comment full of cliches that could apply to any maiden.....Serious eyecatcher not off a yard...Thatsurcoco then nominates the horse this fills the nervous Bigwillystyle with confidence he is further bolstered by Paddywhacker this gets the response...Quite right Paddy....The horse Bigwillystyle so cleverly spotted is Sky Pilot trained by Joanna Morgan now maybe this six year old gelding will run up a sequence when it tries,if it does i will acknowledge Bigwillystyles brilliance and apologise but i fear he will be waiting or more likely listening.

Good man Wildclown.  It took you this long to go and figure out how to look at the replay of the race.  It was pretty obvious who the eyecatcher.  Unlikely to get a decent mark i would think.  Wildclown it all depends on what mark the horse ends up with as to whether it wins or not.  Would presume it will be out quick enough again somewhere. 
Wildclown unlike you finishing positions in these sorts of races dont matter to me when looking at form.  You go back and watch the replays and see what horse caught your eye.  You were too busy looking at the winner with your €5 to win €2, sweating like a saddo.

Obviously when you are looking at a race you tend to follow the horse you either backed or laid, you may have looked on this race with a disinterested eye but i had laid the favourite for a lot more than you think and that is what caught my eye.My reference to six was Sky Pilots age not his finishing position.

Was there a bottle thrown on to the racecourse as the 7.15 field came past the stand?

Wonky's flaggan of cider i reckon after backing another loser.

Bigwillystyle surely this massive eyecatcher is capable of winning a maiden and not reliant on a lenient handicap mark,you are backtracking already, you are losing confidence a familiar pattern is developing the big choke taking place again.Look you seem to have a good business why not concentrate on that gambling does not suit you give it up and you will never choke again.

Wildclown I do not know what route the horse is going to take. I would say d horse could win a weak maiden alright. Handicap marks are what matters. Wildclown if I had thechance of winning a maiden or two or three handicaps I know which one I wouldchoose. We know u would go for the maiden, hence thename wildclown. Now go back to laying 2/5 horses to lose 2 euro. Good lad

I neither own or train this eyecatcher but the normal route would be get your handicap mark then win your maiden and then press on in handicaps but this was to your trained eye so blatent and obvious that clowns like me should see it a maiden should surely be in its grasp.You dont seem to understand betting while Captainofthefleet was returned 2/5 no one laid it at that price,Pivotal Rock was withdrawn a new market was formed in the few minutes before the off,he was 8/11 and 4/6 in the morning and the bulk of the laying done on here was from 1.78 to 1.52.Whilst you were watching your massive eyecatcher did you not notice the favourite struggling,i for one would love another belt at that favourite.

Wildclown the normal route would not be to get it handicapped and then win a maiden.  It would to be get it handicapped and win handicaps.  A winner of a maiden in Ireland will nearly always get a mark in the hight 60's at the very least so that would be 3 handicaps thrown away if you work the system well enough.

Oh dear we were talking about your massive eyecatcher, surely he is not going to get a mark so low but then maybe your trained eye was the only one to appreciate how much he had in hand.I will be following the fortunes of this horse with interest and again if he does prove you right i will acknowledge your brilliance and apologise.Unfortunately your race reading ability counts for nothing if you dont understand betting plus your tendency to choke under pressure is another drawback.