John O'Shea

Throw Evans & Gibson in with that

Nonsense thread. He's been a first team man utd player for most of his career.
Here is his league appearances.
2002–03   32
2003–04   33
2004–05   23
2005–06   34
2006–07   32
2007–08   28
2008–09   30
injuries
2009–10   15
2010–11   11

IMO HE COULD BEEN TOP CLASS BUT THEY USED HIM IN OVER 6 POSITIONS AN IN FAIRNESS IWAS AT  LOT HIS EARLY GAMES AN HE NEVER LET THEM DOWN IN MOST THEM AN SCORED LOT CRACKING GOALS . TELL YOU THIS LOOKED AFTR HIMSELF NEVER SEEN ANY CRAP IN PAPERS ABOUT HIM SO TOO PLAY 9 YEARS FOR THE BEST TEAM IN ENGLAND HE MUST TICK LOT BOXES FOR FERGIE IS NO FOOL . GOOD LUCK TOO THE LIKEABLE BIG LAD PS PITY HE WASNT FROM THE NORTH[:p]

media love him coz he spills the beans on the teams private going ons. fact!

vinnie... i beg to differ he has hardly featured as a regular for the first team in the last 2 years that is a FACT ... he is a squad player and nothing more

the truth is  these days when he does get a game it is usually as a token sub...he hasnt been a regular for a good while now, and even through 2002-2009 he was often in and out of the side, only getting a regular run due to injuries to other key players rather than his own form

Vidic and Ferdinand are the 1st choice centre backs, O'Shea isnt even on the radar anymore... these days fergie would sooner play Evra, johnny evans or even the woeful Rafael as 1st choice fullbacks before he would give utility O'Shea a game, and thats when he's desperate

he is a limited donkey.. he never had any real skill or technique, and he is just too clumsy by far.

as i said if the man had any pride he would drop down a division or two and earn his living by playing rather than sitting on his arse week in week out

ill never know how o shea got in the man utd squad ever -a standard league 1 player at the best imo - saw him last year when vidic and fer were out i think and he was totally exposed alot of times -you sometimes get players like this who just have a bit of luck -proven by the fact his not in the team when everyone is fully fit

The only season that he's not been a key player in the team is this season. Last season he was first choice at full-back until he picked up an injury in the Ireland v France game in Paris which ruled him out for the season with a serious blood clot problem. He was utd best player when they were beaten by Barcelona in the European cup final. For you to say  he should have moved long ago, where he would get a game and keep his dignity is just ridiculous. For you to say he's one of the most overrated players ever to make it in the premiership, his talent is more suited to the lower leagues is laughable. Ireland could do with a couple more john oshea's in defence.

I don't know what he gets a week but it's obviously a bundle.He would be off his rocker to leave Utd just for first team football with some crowd of useless knobbs,and every 2nd opponent trying to kick the shiit out of him down in a lower league.He has a contract and he'd be mad not to benefit from it.Why does he want to play ist team football,to get in the Irish team is it?.John O  Shea from GOAL would get a game with them not to mind this guy

i think our John has probably scored more O.G's in his life than regular goals

I cant decide who is worse him or Paul calamity McShane.

its been a long day since ireland has produced a truly world class player.

lets be honest lads... most of our lads are just championship quality.

Darron Gibson is another Manu player who looks like he belongs in the League Of Ireland...

Only Shay Given tbh

You lads are very hard on our soccer players........I think the International team punches way above it's weight and some promising young players coming through..........considering it's 4th or 5th choice sport in the country.

Gant, the current crop are poor, compared to 5-15 years ago.

Trappatoni will have to give the young lads a chance.......at the moment he is just playing safe with old pros to justify his huge salary. But he has to answer to nobody and seems to have a free reign.

the fai dont give a fucck, they can use a foreigner as a scapegoat if the people revolt, long time since there was a fair chance for the young lads unless they trained with man utd.

thank fook that Kilbane is finally being out to pasture... 9 times out of ten he would get the ball start to run 5 metres and usually fall over

this new lad from Villa Ciaran Clarke looks real quality tho... with him and Seamus Coleman  we have the makings of a decent side...hopefully James McCarthy will get picked by Trappatoni..

to be honest i think our euro 2012 qualification is gonna end like all the others... defeat in the playoffs yet again...

Most countries in Europe would be very happy to have Coleman, Clarke or McCarthy coming through.

From memory I recall John o'Shea getting badly injured in Paris during the 2nd leg play off game. Missed about 5 months due to injury as result. I think he saved a certain goal with a last ditch challenge.

As recently as 2008-09 he played 42 times for United being a regular in the team that qualified for the Champions League final.

He is a steady player these days.

Doubt the original poster is au fait with association football.

tony fenton ... if he was any way decent then ask yourself why he didnt even get in the squad for the 2008 champions league final in moscow..he didnt even make the subs bench and he was fit at the time..

as i said these days the only reason he gets a run is coz other players are injured.

the guy is a liability..  he isnt a steady player at all., steadily useless maybe... i think you are wearing green tinted glasses my friend... you are entitled to your opinion as i am mine but why is it that the vast majority of people think O'Shea is rubbish..

if vidic and ferdinand are fit they take the central defence positions... and if Evra ,Evans, and rafael are fit then O'shea simply doesnt get a look in

He was an unused sub in the 2008 final (Wes Brown was good at the time) and played the full game in 2009. He has matured into a quality player over the last few years and he is consistently excellent for Ireland. This thread is nonsense.

Evans is worse, no physical presence and no pace, the type of centreback strikers love to play against. West Ham beat United in the League Cup when he was playing and Wolves beat them yesterday when he came on for Ferdinand. I'd say this was coincidence but the lad has none of the physical attributes needed to make a top centre half, he passes the ball neatly from the back but as a defender he just hasn't got it. O'Shea is certainly premier league quality, but while having all the physical attributes, he lacks the natural aggression of a top class centre half and one can get away with that, but only if one is exceptionally quick and athletically gifted a la Rio Ferdinand in his pomp. The most best, paciest and imposing defender I have seen in the EPL is Sol Campbell, Ferguson wanted him. Him and Rio are the best I've seen in England. O'Shea doesn't measure up to that, but there are worse defenders in the EPL with England Caps, Matthew Upson for one.

I see the usual barstool pundits are out in force.

Plenty of sharp minds on this thread...

Lads, the country is a small place - I'd go 1.01 that people
who actually know the chap have read this.

You never know - maybe himself even has?...

people have different opinions about him, but he is most certainly not consistently excellent for Ireland !!

ireland can never hang onto a lead long enough for that to be true!

best rather than most best

I think he is ok but has not fulfilled his potential, if one looks at the careers people like John Terry and Jamie Carragher have had as innately less talented footballers and athletes, I would consider John O'Shea to be something of an underachiever to be honest. I only say this because I remember his debut for United when he was thrown in against Chelsea, he kept no less than Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank in his pocket the whole game, to be honest I think it was his best game he played in his whole career. On what he showed early doors he could have done more with his talent, hes kind of the centre backs equivalent of Dunguib, and I aint giving up on him yet. Maybe if O'Shea played elsewhere and got the chance to take on more responsibility he might/may have/yet developed/develope if ya get my gist but time is running out. But what a living he has made anyway

have had better careers, can't write today

John is a good pro with a good contract at a big club.........The man is happy in his work what more can he do.........It's like a loud mouth owner taking his horses out of Willie Mullins and sending them to a smaller trainer just to be the main man.........it didn't work out.

i see him as a player of similar ilk to phil neville. he could stay at utd and be a bit part player picking up medals for not doing much or move on and be a leader of a team. i suppose its up to him what would be more satisfying.

if only he moved to elland road he could be the new johnny giles

tony fenton ... if he was any way decent then ask yourself why he didnt even get in the squad for the 2008 champions league final in moscow..he didnt even make the subs bench and he was fit at the time..

No Irish Player apart from Given would have had a chance of making that squad.
A good honest pro who has made the most of his career playing for a top club. To say he couldn't get into a backline with Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra and a fit Wes Brown was no shame.

60k stg a week...prob worth 20/25 m..hes a failure ok!!

John took time out from reading the illuminating Irish sports forum to partake in todays Manchester derby.

Well done John.

geezer recently signed a 16 million contract, the worlds gone mad i tell ya, mad....

Any medals this season John?

What a thread.

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he is the highest paid irish sports person.

bardo in hiding.

Ordinary player who`s done extremely well for himself.....Honest pro,plenty of medals and £3 million a year salary.How can you knock someone who`s over-achieved?

Good luck to the lad

Any news if the baby has arrived yet!!

O Shea and Gibson off to Sunderland

Norn Iron


Sure if he was from the North,he`d still choose to play for the South,anyway![:D]

o shea not going to sunderland!!!

either spurs or arsenal i hear!!

let's put an end to this debate right NOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYcbwiAr-xM

£60,000 a week classic.

Norn Iron, good post

Off to Sunderland this evenin