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useless ****s i hope they sack that italian waste now

stfu ronnie!

mophead Joined: 24 Nov 08
Replies: 8736 08 Oct 10 20:14 
useless ****s i hope they sack that italian waste now


Wouldn't expect any more from the forum imbecile. Typical tabloid reading clown

Some tackle! Bout fkn time!

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theyre all over us, defense looks terrible tonight!

this match needs more danny glover!

cant understand these celebrity managers -another over in england as well

have a look at whos playing in the middle of the pitch for us............what do you expect ffs

theres plenty better but his too much of a knob to pick them in the squad

mcgeedy paid off by the russians?

mcgeady got transported over to russia cos he wasnt gud enough to play in england

Our only hope is a goal before ht, to state the bloody obvious.

we are truly fkng awful...................absolutely no creativity

we look as if we've only got off the bus and never met , if these guys have been training together for the past week they certainly dont look it . shambolic is the only word to discribe this offering. cant string 3 passes together .

TURN OVER WATCH NORN IRON NOT BAD GAME HEALY MISSED A SITTER FROM JUST 6 YARDS

workrider, just to remind you that you were saying that we could top the group, barring slip ups, not too long ago.

we have 4 in midfield
1 cant get a game at stoke
1 couldnt get a game at stoke and left
1 plays for derby
im a fan but seriously who the fk are we coddin

NORN - is Jackie fulashit still commentating on the games?

healy rae?

yeah hes sh!te ronnie, thats whats wrong with him!

HE WOULD BE IF WAS ON BBC BUT THANK FEC ITS ON SKY I BACKED DRAW  AND  DRAW HT /FT

FFS!

and remind me happy what was YOUR opinion . ANOTHER CLOWN ARRIVES

irish mugs

terrible tonight! robbie running for the ball there, slow motion,  hes a plodder!

This has been coming for a while.

Kilbane can't get a game for Hull.
Keane can't get a game for Spurs.
Whelan can't get a game for Stoke.

Green has sh!t himself everytime the ball has come near him. We've been taught a lesson so far.

long is on, russians quaking now!

Yep, a bunch of players that are not match fit, what was to be expected in hindsight
Not to mention a manger that is picky in his selections, how can we afford to be picky?

this is the poorest irish team i've seen in a long time . no co ordination no movement off the ball .i've seen  more movement from a constipated man ffs

Glen Whelan gone off...Thought it was Marty playing

Penalty!!
Come on Ireland!!!!

Penalty ya eejit ya...lol he's commentating and can't see it

Hamilton making a fool of himself again

fk sake Kilbane

GET THE FK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

2-3

3-2 13 mins to go

go on

My even win this now

ilikewavingatbuses Joined: 06 Jun 09
Replies: 4630 08 Oct 10 21:05 
long is on, russians quaking now!

good man

Should be Kilbane's last game in an Ireland shirt. The man is fking pathetic.

Grren been poor too Dan, how'd St Ledger get away with that swing?

Wtf?
Agreed Dan...*

Agreed Down.......Green can't pass, can't tackle........can't do anything

green not up to it

was ronnie whelan taken off ?????????

Took us 72mins to start playing, too little too late.

.. as per usual!

GREAT NIGHT IN THE NORTH DESERVED A DRAW AND ULSTER WON IN A CANTER

Rousing finish doesn't disguise what was 70 mins of total sh!te from Ireland. The Green & Whelan combo in midfield are League 1 class.

70...l0...94 mins of utter tripe...

We are not good enough to sit back and defend, at least Mc Carthy played attacking football and got us results.

Fkn pi$$ed off with this shyte!!!

How many poor groups are we going to fk up????

p.s.
WD N.Ireland & NORN

Dunphy doesn't like Gibson then.

but lets not forget lads that we're just not that good ANYWAY its a pity, i wish we were better obviously, but we're just a mediocre at the end of the day.

  still top of the world

Thought Gibson was decent when he came on.

We can still play much better than that though wavey!
If you set up to be negitive you get what you deserve.

downallstar u should be banned from the forum for that comment - he was brutal - massively overrated

? Gibson? Though he was ok for the few mins he was on, could be wrong though, was caught up in it, sorry eamo...

Dunne having a go at Given and probably the manager for the long ball tactics!

Amazing how little flack Kilbane gets off the RTE fellas......we were ripped apart down his side.

How can anyone criticise Kilbane. Good player in his time and still dedicated. The younger players in the team are simply not good enough.

DAS   , DIDNT SEE YUR GAME BUT SURELY RUSSIA ARE BEST TEAM IN GROUP AN WILL WIN SO REST PLAYING FOR THE SECOND PLACE ? AN NO REASON Y THEY CANT QUALIFY

..in his time... Joe!
Whole team was poor and awol for 70mins, so was the management.

We have no leader in the mid field, that is a massive negitive.

Whelan is grand. He has played plenty of games and knows what he has to do. I hope he is ok for for the Slovakia game. I never thought I would say it but Andrews is a huge loss. The two of them had a good understanding through the last campaign and Green is just horrendous. Can't pass, no touch, can't tackle.

We can't afford to have lads like Duff and Hunt injured. If they were fit I'd pick them on the wings. McGeady has never had a good game for Ireland. He's pathetic. I can't believe Celtic got over £9million for him. Lawrence is a great worker and you have to like his attitude. Well worth his place in the squad and even if everyone was fit, he would be there or thereabouts.

Dunphy is right about Gibson. He was rubbish when he came on and his delieveries were poor. Lawrence would have done better if he was left on.

The less said about Kilbane the better. He is so bad, Ian Harte is nearly worth a call again.

Need to lift it now for Slovakia.

Decent summary Icc.
Fk I must have been looking at the wrong player re: Gibson!?

NORN IRON TAKE GIBSON BACK

Dont know why they haven't Dunphy, Giles and Brady aren't managing Ireland anyway. They way they talk a game they would have the Republic 3 up against Brazil in 20 mins.

I am sorry Diamond Joe but Kevin Kilbane has never been a particularly good player for Ireland. He now attracts more criticism because he is obviously past it. Gets exposed regularly and has no pace whatsoever.

Gibson is a one dimensional player that is never going to make the grade at Man Utd. Not a particularly good passer and his delivery from a dead ball is poor. He needs to move and get an extended run in someone's first team. Keith Fahey currently offers a lot more.

The most frustrating thing about this is trap continues to ignore young technical talented players  like coleman and mccarthy for moderate championship players. Dunne carried ledger tonight, and that green was so bad. He has no touch, no football brain, no positional sense, poor awareness, and reaction to situations is that of a division 2 player.
The Icchantika - I'm not a fan of mcgeady, but he was are most dangerous player.

Thats fair enough, The Icchantika. I wouldnt say Kilbane has ever been amazing at any time in his career but he has been solid and dependable and doesnt deserve to be singled out as opposed to the rest. Kilbane though was not the cause of tonights result. Truth is the team as a whole are simply not good enough. People criticise Green yet this kid plays for Derby....what do they expect? If Keith Fahey (Who is an honest player no doubt) is the alternative then it says alot about the current state of Irish football.

disagree djq, he's ignoring better players.

Gutted after that

No he wasn't Vinnie. He flattered to deceive as per usual. He now has 39 caps, 0 goals and I'm pretty sure he only has 2 assists. We win the ball and he loses it. With everyone fully fit he would not be in the side, as we saw in Paris last year. Can't pass, can't shoot, can't cross, rubbish at dead balls. It is grand looking nice on the ball but he cant't do a thing with it.

We have plenty of options in the middle but Fahey is the one most likely to make the breakthrough. James McCarthy looks a good player, Andy Reid is back from injury, Andrews will soon be fit, Marc Wilson can play there, to mention but a few. Depends what Trap wants to do.

Kilbane deserves to be dropped. The problem is a replacement is not obvious. Coleman does not defend well enough yet. He has been abysmal at the back for Everton this season, giving away penalties and fouling. Were he to prove himself, O'Shea could go across. Cunningham has far too little experience. Ward at Wolves might be worth a look, but if Trap likes him he would have been in before now.

St Leger has done well at the back. McGeady and Kilbane offer no protection down that side and that, combined with Green offering nothing in centre mid, will always leave centre halves under pressure. Richard Dunne is a big worry. He has had a bad start to the season, looks to be carrying weight, and has issues with his knees. We need him there for a few years yet.

The Icchantika can you name the abysmal mistakes Coleman is making at the back For Everton when any game he has started has been on the right side of midfield as well as that Coleman is not left sided player so you can forget about him replacing Kilbane. How many penos has he given away this season in the prem? He give away 1 away to Brentford, get your facts straight. St Ledger was terrible tonight a shambolic effort at jumping for headers fouling his player the whole time the defense not helped by our midfield and the Russians running through them at will. Andy Reid had his chance not good enough although it could be argued that he is worth his place in that midfield, but is not a solution to our midfield issues. Whelan to me was worse than pathetic he was shocking tonight, Keane laughable effort to lead a team wants a kick up the back side, McGeady very poor as usual.

Mcgeady tries to beat too many players but he was far more influential and intelligent tonight. Early on, cut inside, shot rebounded to keane who should have struck it first time. He also played a lovely through ball to keane that just needed one final accurate pass. Nearly scored late on, and tracked backed through out the game. The big problem was in central midfield - there extra man helped but green was just pathetic.
Coleman and mcarthy should be involved, maybe in a attacking 4-5-1 system, which will obviously mean keane or doyle will be dropped.

Ireland are useless. may as well just admit it.

Arshavin Vs Keith Fahey or Green etc.... cmon its no contest

Where did I say he had given anything away in the prem? He absolutely flattened Kevin Nolan in the box against Newcastle and got away with it. He handled in the box last week and got away with it. He is very poor defensively but he has scope to improve. I'd love if he did.

If you read my post, I suggested that if he developed O'Shea could be moved across to left full.

I was merely suggesting that we have options in centre mid. When will Dave Meyler be back from injury? Looked a promising player.

Whelan has done well and deserves his place.

McGeady did not track back throughout the game and he certainly didn't for their second goal.

That 4-5-1 is not going to happen under this manager, who is doing an excellent job with the resources at his disposal. We don't have the players for it anyway. Anyone who wants to drop Keane or Doyle needs their head examined.

Diamond Joe- top analysis.

McGeady played fairly OK tonight, one of our better players, definitely the most creative and dangerous player we had. We have enough workhorses in the team to cover for  Mcgeady losing the odd ball trying something positive.

He doesn't lose the odd ball- he loses every ball. Duff and Hunt can't get fit quick enough.

The Icchantika those were not deemed to be penalties so you are wrong, thats fact mate check it up, you're totally wrong. Whelan is a joke and tonight he deserved to be slated for that shambolic performance instead Green was hung out to dry as it easier to slate he young lad who's not born here. Green was slated and yes he was poor but he was a long way ahead of Whelan who offers little to nothing. I would not have a problem with McGeady not tracking back as such if he could do it at the other end but he can't well not for Ireland anyway. I seen him play for Spartak a few times and i thought he looked very good, maybe the way Ireland play does not suit but opinion is he is probably overrated.

The Icchantika - you don't need your head examined if you want to play 21st century football. 4-4-2 is dead. Spain even with their fantastic attacking quality play 1 up front.. holland the same.
         whelan
  mccarthy     gibson
        doyle
this will at least give us the possibility of keeping the ball, and are movement and passing will be so much better.

I thought our captain was terrible tonight.

Rocket, Paul Green is no "young lad", he's a 27 year old journeyman. We have a 19 yr old young lad of unlimited potential sitting at home due to trap's stubborness whos playing well week in week out in the premiership

Well i meant he was younger than me daradasi

Ok my bad i did not mean 'he' was a young lad but granted i can see how it could confuse those of extreme limited intellect like your good self. Anyway my point was he gets way more stick than Whelan got tonight but yet Whelan was devoid of anything remotely near football.

If you loook back Daza i do champion McCarthy's case, it's a joke that he is not even in the squad. I am far from impressed with Trap after tonight.

how did u do on the appretice daradasi? rocket reckons u was on it.

It has to be him Irish guy, pro Poker player (Although does not like to take risks, go figure) just like Daza and runs the family business whatever that is.

         whelan
  mccarthy     gibson
        doyle
this will at least give us the possibility of keeping the ball, and are movement and passing will be so much better.

dont tell me youre serious that is an average mid table relegation quartet

Had a feeling once we played someone our midfield would be exposed. The two are just not good enough. Trap is set in his ways. Need to change it. If you set up not to lose then your asking for trouble. The thing is we can play football (as shown against france) but Trap wants to play a certain way.

good point anfeild .

we can play football (as shown against france)


The same old cliche being wheeled out again. France are terrible. They did their absolute best to lose against Ireland that night and we still couldnt take advantage. A terrible formline.

They were not penalties but they were acts of desperation and Titus Bramble style calamatious defending. He needs to improve.

I can never understand criticism of Robbie Keane by Irish fans. The man has 45 goals for his country.

With the squad we have, we are best served by 442. Ideally this would feature Hunt and Duff on the wings. Doyle and Keane are both untouchable, and we should pray that neither picks up an injury because the cupboard is most definitely bare when you look for striking options beyond those 2.

is that dope the galway man the icchantika aswell ??

djk - it's better then -

              WHELAN      GREEN (zzzz)



          Nothing is coming from midfield.   


             Keane         Doyle 

Gibson played well against bayern munich when utd played 3 in central midfield.

My 2 cents worth. We have to be real here we are an average team. Our midfield was abysmal last nite. Whealen didn't turn up n green isn't related to a footballer. Kilbane never was never will be a full back. He's past it aswell IMO. Second goal why is tucked in so much he knows mcgeady not goin to track back. Mcgeady only looked half decent to me as I tawt the Russian right back was so poor. John o shea seriously needs to start doing things quicker too. He took an age to throw the ball at times last nite. Tuesday nite will tell a lot it will be same again I think.

Gibson played well against bayern munich when utd played 3 in central midfield.

Gibson is an average player who is flattered when playing amongst Scholes, Nani, etc....