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Rocketfingers
03 Jul 10 13:20
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Hi lads,

Can anybody tell me how much it would cost to get involved in the game with a dog. I am totally green and i know if i contacted a trainer i would probably get sold a jack russell. Any advice how to get involved and not be taken for a ride? Also whats the fees like?
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Report workrider July 3, 2010 1:31 PM BST
firstly go to the track on a regular basis , get to know the trainers , be carefull lots of guys willing to tell you what you want to hear . if you find after awhile your still interested , i recommened you go juring the winter months so you get a real feel for it . approach one of said trainers and ask if they have a dog that suits your pocket .they charged around 60/75 a week  the last time i had a dog with one thats about 3yrs ago .hope that helps.
Report downallstar July 3, 2010 1:41 PM BST
pf will do it for beer money Grin
Report workrider July 3, 2010 1:44 PM BST
das, pf has all his dogs in training with me Laugh
Report downallstar July 3, 2010 1:45 PM BST
Laugh
Report GANT007 July 3, 2010 1:55 PM BST
60/75 is still around the norm..........I'd go the pup route ....buy one under 6 months old and send it to a good rearer eg. Martin Tucker loads of others.......at 15 months it will be lightly schooled and ready to go into training  costs rearing 25 a week / schooling 45/50 pw...........serious value out there at the moment if someone wants to get into the game.......dropped 2 bitches to be mated to crash and hometown boy the other day and they were flat out.
Some good trainers out there......it depends on you, if you want to visit regularly choose one near you. Only speaking from experience avoid the bar rogue trainers and those who are heavy punters. Be careful buying a racedog for handy money.
Pups for sale in sporting press, greyhound data and from breeders direct.
only my opinion
Report SatelliteFlight July 3, 2010 2:14 PM BST
Devil
Report workrider July 3, 2010 2:14 PM BST
pup route to expensive imo .as a breeder i found it harder and harder to make ends meet and finally gave up . to bring up a pup and get it to the track is imo a very risky proposition and very very expensive , you could have spent thousends on a pup get it to the schooling track only to find it wont even chase . sapling might be the answer .
Report GANT007 July 3, 2010 2:49 PM BST
I agree with you there........had a few that didn't follow.........we handslip ours at 13 months so know early enough if they at least chase...........even the sapling route is risky, I was at a well known schooling track recently and saw these 2 little black dogs chasing like mad on the track.......I got chatting to the 2 men in the car park who had the dogs... they were 2 elderly men who drove down from Dublin and they told me the 2 blacks were only gone 10 months......the 2 boys had a flask so over a cup of tea they told me they do this all the time...slip them at 10 months and if they chase put them away for 3 months.
Report workrider July 3, 2010 3:16 PM BST
13 months about right imo gantoo , cant belive those old boys 10 months ? do more damage than good , some people just cant wait to see what they have.
Report GANT007 July 3, 2010 3:29 PM BST
Have to say they knew their stuff and without naming them they have a fair few winners.
Report workrider July 3, 2010 4:16 PM BST
if its who i think it is , then thats the proof of the pudding . just for me pups of that age have very brittle bones and most of these schooling tracks are  shall we say , are not well kept .
Report GANT007 July 3, 2010 4:20 PM BST
you hit the nail on the head.
Report workrider July 3, 2010 4:34 PM BST
we'll have to watch it gantoo thats twice we've agreed Grin
Report GANT007 July 3, 2010 4:38 PM BST
that's true.
Report Dan Chipowski July 3, 2010 5:16 PM BST
If you're a newbie, I'd definitely suggest buying a graded dog whose had a few runs. As already stated it's a huge help if you know a few ppl in the game to ensure you don't get completely shafted. You won't pay much for a average grader, and you'll learn a lot about the sport from owning it and watching it run.

I did the same when I got into dogs, bought a b!tch for €500, she won 6 for us (€200 per month for training) and it was a smashing introduction.
Report LLOYTRON July 3, 2010 11:29 PM BST
Am involved with a syndicate, Sparrows Banner..Won tonight at Galway..6/4[;)]
Report workrider July 3, 2010 11:37 PM BST
well done lloyron , hope you had loads onGrin
Report jimeen July 4, 2010 10:00 AM BST
Arent rocketfingers and workrider both the same person,so this thread is started by the same person replying to his own question.
Report workrider July 4, 2010 10:46 AM BST
jimeen , you' re really not very bright , now are you .touch of the child within showing eh Confused
Report jimeen July 4, 2010 12:01 PM BST
One day i wish to be as bright as yourself and rocketfingers,that deadly dyslexic duo who fill the threads with great pearls of wisdom.
Report daradasi July 4, 2010 12:04 PM BST
Workrider and rocketfingers are the same person,anyone with half a brain could see that. I think that anyone misrepresenting themselves under a different username just shouldn't be entertained.
"Rocketfingers" hadn't even the good manners to thank himself for his reply to his initial question.Grin
Report workrider July 4, 2010 12:15 PM BST
you know lads i'm starting to worry about you two .rocketfingers is obviously the better speller for a start , ah why bother ,sure belive what you want you two fools . if you notice rocket knows a little about the gaa ,i on  the other hand know sfa .but dont let that put you off the scent ladsLaugh.you two would make laurel and hardy seem dull Laugh you both should start up your own detective agency and call it ,crimes never solved Laugh
Report santa concerto July 6, 2010 10:32 AM BST
may well get a sapling   next year  workrider i will   give you a shout for some advice when i get a greyhound ta.Laugh
Report workrider July 6, 2010 11:21 AM BST
santa , lots of more knowledgeable greyhound fella's around than me , with my advice you'd end up with a whippet Laugh
Report kerryman July 6, 2010 11:50 AM BST
Rocket,

Go to igb.ie they have contact details for synds.
Report Rocketfingers July 6, 2010 11:54 AM BST
Cheers Kerryman, that sounds the best idea i heard to get started.
Report jungleboogie July 6, 2010 11:59 AM BST
Rocket,

have owned greyhounds for a number of years.
Won a final in HX & also open class stake in Longford with a handiful of dogs .

always bought pups & got them reared.
never bought a sapling as have always had the impression that most of them had a good few hand-slips

I would recommend getting a decent trainer,depends what part of the country your in.
If you want more info let me know.
Report jimeen July 6, 2010 3:54 PM BST
Ffs jungleboogie,workfingers or rocketrider or whatever he is called,is hardly in the market for  a greyhound.Its a pisss take and as per usual a pretty ordinary effort(one wouldnt expect anything else from somebody with such a low iq).What i like about rocketrider is the pathetic attempts to garner sympathy by passing on personal information to people that he doesnt even know from adam,and secondly the attempts at turning a thread into a so called fishing thread,after 20 other posters have accused him of being an illiterate imbecile.
Report workrider July 6, 2010 7:11 PM BST
gosh , jimeen nearly as bright as daradasi , his 2nd in command Silly
Report workrider July 7, 2010 11:59 AM BST
gantoo 7 , i see you posted you have 5  pups about to start off , why dont you offer rocketfingers a  deal on one of them , that should benifit you both . what do you say lads ,it must be worth  try ?
Report GANT007 July 7, 2010 12:23 PM BST
Sorry none for sale...........out of our own open class bitch.........2 sold to a local man and 3 will be kept for racing.......first litter threw nearly all open class.
Report SatelliteFlight July 7, 2010 12:33 PM BST
whats the breeding Gant?
Report GANT007 July 7, 2010 8:15 PM BST
All I will divulge is they are by crash out of a bitch that did 28.64.
Report SatelliteFlight July 7, 2010 8:22 PM BST
no problem, best of luck with them, hopefully win a few big comps with them Cool
Report GANT007 July 7, 2010 8:31 PM BST
hard enough to get them to the track.....but we will give it a rattle.
Report workrider July 8, 2010 12:18 PM BST
yeah gantoo , good luck with them , i know what you mean when you say its hard to get them to the track never mind win compos Grin
Report DEBOOKIEBOY. July 8, 2010 10:28 PM BST
Check out www.pennyskennels.com an interesting innovation during the present time of hardship of breeders.......
Report GANT007 July 9, 2010 11:38 AM BST
Its a great idea.........well bred pups reared on at a top place.......fair play to Eugene.
Report workrider July 9, 2010 11:41 AM BST
gantoo , who rears your pups for you ,or do you rear them yourself ?
Report GANT007 July 9, 2010 12:01 PM BST
We rear them ourselves........but sometimes use Martin Tucker.....Martin is top class.
Report workrider July 9, 2010 12:08 PM BST
yeah heard he was good , its so important to get the right stuff into them at an early age .i remember having to send my bitch to a guy in the midlands the guy who was to whelp her was away . the guy in the midlands just gave them bread and milk plus he had hundreds of pups all over the place , i got them out as quick as nature would allow but the feeding wasen't in them from the start. even though they won races they were never going to be what i'd hoped for .
Report GANT007 July 9, 2010 12:26 PM BST
Most places feed them fairly well nowadays and as numbers decline the better rearers will survive.
There are still a few rogues out there but these lads don't last long.
Sometimes it works out cheaper to feed them well.............We use beef, chicken and Gain puppy and sapling as our main diet.....and veg stew.

I knew a lad doing the bread and milk lark before, it cost him a fortune buying sliced pans and 2 litre drums of milk, the lad also used to buy a little bit of mince in the local butchers at 1.80 lb.

Beef, chicken, turkey  in around 60c to 75c a pound good quality. Gain puppy and sapling 15kg bag €22...veg, cheese in lidl or aldi.
Report sh.t happens July 9, 2010 1:49 PM BST
I would advise you to check out your track first - i owned 2 A grade dogs a couple of years back in a country track - ALWAYS FIT AND HEALTHY - RARELY GOT RUNS.
One of the dogs was a sprinter - what a farce - if there is one race a meeting for sprinters you're doing well.

In my opinion there are way too many dogs and not enough races.  Cost me every week to keep both dogs in training and maybe they got a run once a month - Complete joke

Wrote letter to IGB complaining - never got a reply.  They should not be encouraging syndicates if they can't guarantee a regular race for a fit dog.
They need to either increase race fields from 6 runners to 8 runnners, or extra 2 races every meeting.
Report GANT007 July 9, 2010 4:32 PM BST
Are you sure you had your A grade dogs in Ireland......A what?.
Tracks do their best here as racing is very competitive.
If you want to race twice a week you should run your dogs at the bags meetings in the uk.
Report MALAY July 10, 2010 10:54 AM BST
how many real good dogs has tucker reared ? i know he reared a good one henessy trained began with an N, cant remember its name, but he must rear a load of dogs,with the size of the place in his advert
not having a go just ineterested
Report MALAY July 10, 2010 12:06 PM BST
nawhabotheradaa he reared that machine
Report GANT007 July 10, 2010 2:00 PM BST
Thats a question only the rearer can answer.........I'm not one one for nosing about other peoples dogs......All I know is that they come back in serious condition and lightly schooled...........the rest is up to the trainer/owner..........it's like the old saying if a litter turns out bad blame the rearer or the stud dog it's never your bi*ch............he turns out a steady few winners here and across the water. I have always found him to be a straight talking man.
Report sh.t happens July 10, 2010 2:48 PM BST
GANT007 i never said anything about wanting them to race twice a week, but if you have dog that wins an OPEN class race and has to wait 6 weeks to race again there is something wrong.  I know this is a FACT because my dog experienced it.
And I reinforce it again, depends on your track. My dog was 5 mins from the local track and ran more often 100 miles away because that was the only place it could get a run.

Add in training fees, travel costs etc and even if it wins you still dont break even.
Report CheltenhamRoar December 17, 2012 7:25 PM GMT
Laugh
Report workrider December 17, 2012 7:31 PM GMT
Laugh
Report workrider December 17, 2012 7:33 PM GMT
this is all to much for me , i'm laughing so much the wifes thinks iv'e gone mad...i'm off out for awhile...talk later...
Report richters December 18, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
workrider would you train 1 for the bird o donnell.....
Report workrider December 18, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
no way richters , can you just imagine setting one up for a gamble , he'd be on here telling everyone his dogs gonna win , then wonder why the price had gone....Laugh
Report richters December 18, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
he maybe could train one himself on the roof of the ballymun complex where the lads used to keep the racing pigeons.......
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